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ONLIVE - THE FUTURE OF ONLINE GAMING?
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supremewarrior
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CloseWhat do you guys think about this OnLive gaming service using cloud gaming platform?
Theres been adverts of this thing everywhere on YouTube.
Brief summary of OnLive from what I have found out:
- It allows you to play the latest games on your TV, PC or Mac by streaming
- You get to demo games for free
- No discs/cds or downloads
- Monthly subscription fee
- Needs high speed internet
- Don't need a games console, but you get some kind of small console called "MicroConsole TV Adapter" and a controller.
- Watch live games being played across the world.
Some specs of their MicroConsole TV Adapter:
- Supports up to 4 wireless controllers, multiple bluetooth headsets, video and audio output provides component, HDMI, S/PDIF ports and an analog stereo minijack.
- Two USB ports for game controllers, keyboards, mice, and USB hubs.
Apprently according to wikipedia "Over 50 publishers, such as Take-Two, Ubisoft, Epic Games, Atari, Codemasters, THQ, Warner Bros., 2D Boy, Eidos Interactive, Disney Interactive Studios, and others have partnered with OnLive."
OnLive
Theres been adverts of this thing everywhere on YouTube.
Brief summary of OnLive from what I have found out:
- It allows you to play the latest games on your TV, PC or Mac by streaming
- You get to demo games for free
- No discs/cds or downloads
- Monthly subscription fee
- Needs high speed internet
- Don't need a games console, but you get some kind of small console called "MicroConsole TV Adapter" and a controller.
- Watch live games being played across the world.
Some specs of their MicroConsole TV Adapter:
- Supports up to 4 wireless controllers, multiple bluetooth headsets, video and audio output provides component, HDMI, S/PDIF ports and an analog stereo minijack.
- Two USB ports for game controllers, keyboards, mice, and USB hubs.
Apprently according to wikipedia "Over 50 publishers, such as Take-Two, Ubisoft, Epic Games, Atari, Codemasters, THQ, Warner Bros., 2D Boy, Eidos Interactive, Disney Interactive Studios, and others have partnered with OnLive."
OnLive
I still got my 12 month free sunscription with Onlive, but I don't live in the US so.. Haven't tried it.
- It allows you to play the latest games on your TV, PC or Mac by streaming and - Needs high speed internet
Conversely, if my net's out or I don't have internet for one reason or another, I can't play said games. Gotcha.
- You get to demo games for free
I thought demos were always free...?
- No discs/cds or downloads
So I'm left with nothing if the OnLive servers or my internet ever go out. Basically, I'm paying for thin air. Sounds like a fabulous investment.
Thanks for reminding me that single player games in the true sense are going extinct.
Conversely, if my net's out or I don't have internet for one reason or another, I can't play said games. Gotcha.
- You get to demo games for free
I thought demos were always free...?
- No discs/cds or downloads
So I'm left with nothing if the OnLive servers or my internet ever go out. Basically, I'm paying for thin air. Sounds like a fabulous investment.
Thanks for reminding me that single player games in the true sense are going extinct.
KA: Not all games have demos, Onlive will let you play the full game for a certain amount of time before it quits for free afaik.
Anyways, I also hope you don't have to pay for bandwidth costs from your ISP because this is basically streaming hidef videos. Or even have the infrastructure to support sustained speeds to stream these videos. And what KA said too. Plus I've heard games are set to low quality settings to keep server processing time (and lag) down. I'd rather spend money on my computer to play games than pay for a service for an offsite computer to do it for these reasons and my computer can play all computer games instead of just what is on Onlive.
I can see a market for it for people who don't have the time/interest in researching and building a computer or spending the absurd amount for a prebuilt gaming computer. I don't think it will revolutionize gaming at all though.
Anyways, I also hope you don't have to pay for bandwidth costs from your ISP because this is basically streaming hidef videos. Or even have the infrastructure to support sustained speeds to stream these videos. And what KA said too. Plus I've heard games are set to low quality settings to keep server processing time (and lag) down. I'd rather spend money on my computer to play games than pay for a service for an offsite computer to do it for these reasons and my computer can play all computer games instead of just what is on Onlive.
I can see a market for it for people who don't have the time/interest in researching and building a computer or spending the absurd amount for a prebuilt gaming computer. I don't think it will revolutionize gaming at all though.
Natook
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Well, the video you posted was a pretty big turn off, and I wasn't really turned on to the idea in the first place. The common theme was "laggy but playable." This might be cool in the future, but I don't really see streaming video games happening perfectly. The ability to stream gameplay would have to improve dramatically to be on par with physical hardware, which uh, probably won't happen. I think it would actually have more success if it streamed the entire PS2 library or even SNES. Older games will always be enjoyable, despite the advances new games make constantly.
EDIT: Wait, didn't that already happen with the older games? I vaguely remember that awhile back. I guess since I can't remember the name of the company, that speaks for the success of streaming older games. Maybe I'm just crazy. *goes back to emulating games* ... *Just realized why that company failed*
EDIT: Wait, didn't that already happen with the older games? I vaguely remember that awhile back. I guess since I can't remember the name of the company, that speaks for the success of streaming older games. Maybe I'm just crazy. *goes back to emulating games* ... *Just realized why that company failed*
Shinan
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It is a neat concept. A kind of gaming rental service where the games don't take up harddrive space and you don't need any kind of disc. I can see how it works as a "try before you buy". Especially in this day and age when games just don't come with demos. Ever.
It's not quite there yet though. Good internet connections are ALMOST everywhere but not quite to the level that this service needs. Basically the audience today is fairly small. But it'll grow and it'll grow fast as has all the other streaming services.
Of course this is "gaming as a service" driven to its extreme. This doesn't even pretend like you own the game. Which is probably better than what companies do these days.
That's sort of dumb. Considering one of the advantages to this platform is that you don't have to have a good machine to play (just a good internet connection). While you can pretty much play games from the 90s on any old machine the most recent games might not run. But through the streaming service they will.
It's not quite there yet though. Good internet connections are ALMOST everywhere but not quite to the level that this service needs. Basically the audience today is fairly small. But it'll grow and it'll grow fast as has all the other streaming services.
Of course this is "gaming as a service" driven to its extreme. This doesn't even pretend like you own the game. Which is probably better than what companies do these days.
I think it would actually have more success if it streamed the entire PS2 library or even SNES. Older games will always be enjoyable, despite the advances new games make constantly.
That's sort of dumb. Considering one of the advantages to this platform is that you don't have to have a good machine to play (just a good internet connection). While you can pretty much play games from the 90s on any old machine the most recent games might not run. But through the streaming service they will.
I agree with all of the above statements so far, it's definitely a bit premature to be bringing this kind of technology so early into the gaming industry. I think it will have quite a significant effect but not enough to slowdown sales of the major competitors anyway.
I'll admit I am curious to try it out, but I just wanna see how it handles when playing online, since it supposedly laggy but if they are able to somehow fix that it still suffers from the drawback that it requires internet to play your games.
I'll admit I am curious to try it out, but I just wanna see how it handles when playing online, since it supposedly laggy but if they are able to somehow fix that it still suffers from the drawback that it requires internet to play your games.
Natook
1000
author=Shinan
While you can pretty much play games from the 90s on any old machine the most recent games might not run. But through the streaming service they will.
Well, judging by the video posted earlier, it would lag but still remained playable. I understand that the big selling point was the ability to play high end games, but if they aren't streaming perfectly, that might be unattractive to some people. However, streaming dated games will always run perfectly, and the library is massive. That was my logic behind it. I don't consider it an advantage to play high end games if they aren't running perfectly.
You're also referring to PCs not being up to snuff, or if it's on a TV it costs $100 for the hardware to play it. Obviously consoles will be able to run games made for them, and since they come out every what, 5 years or so? they aren't that bad to buy. When I bought my 360 it was $400 (much cheaper now too), and lasting 5 years until a new console comes out, = $80 a year, whereas the OnLive monthly fee is $10 x 12 = $120 a year. Except, I get to keep my console. I still have to buy games, but I KEEP them. Or the other method where you just buy full passes for games, which still cost $5-$50 each. Then they won't be available later (Fear 2 said it was going to run out in 2013 at some point) so full passes aren't really forever. From my view, it's better to invest in a console that WILL run the games like they are meant to be played, that you can have forever. Granted, you probably won't play the same games over and over until you die, but there are plenty of times where I want to dust off an old game and play through it just for nostalgia/fun (which I know I'm not alone on)
Again, with the older massive library of games, you can play games that are much harder to come by, and run smooth. To each their own I suppose. The selling point of high end gaming is invalid if it's not perfect.
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