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New rule: Stop posting shitty blogs
The blog itself was simply titled welcome and the said blog content was simply a small introduction for himself, (I guess he was too shy/lazy to post a forum introduction). Shortly afterwards the usual moderation rule of upping blog standards was being rammed right into this kids face with a few others chiming in, and then the gamepage disappeared (it was called Silent Night I believe). What I'm trying to say is that policing blogs and intimidating new users by effectively saying your blog is shit do better is perhaps a tad too heavy handed and would most likely scare people off from this site.
Weren't you around when Schmup was still around, StarSkipping? I remember the first comments made about the first game I uploaded here, the Ark of Gladoria. Craze and Tardis tore it apart mostly because they considered one of the faceset looked gay. Those were the hardcore days when Jericho was still around, nothing compared to now. Where were you then to set things right I wonder.
I personally said: ''Do improve your blogs please'', I don't see it as being nasty or impolite but courteous and decent. It was perhaps not necessary but it's far cry from a personal insult.
Honestly this wasn't even an issue in the first place. If I remember correctly it was only the one or two members going around and saying stupid stuff like "WHAAAA! ONE SENTENCE BLOGS! WHAAA!" And just harping on them in general.
I don't know if this aimed at me but I stand my ground. Taking a stance to encourage quality blogs in a courteous way is definitely a good idea in my book, whether or not the majority agrees with this or not is irrelevant as far as I'm concerned. I don't mind if you think improving standards is a bad idea, I don't.
So this rule is effectively appeasing one or two of our members who decided this was suddenly the biggest war crime on the internet. Don't get me wrong, I'm all up for increasing site standards and better moderation, we already have an review, demo and gamepage submission queue.
Then freaking act like it bro. Improving standards involves making changes buddy, you can't have your cake and eat it too. No offence but I can't help but get this from your message: ''I want the website to improve quality stantdards but I don't want anything to change in order for those standards to sink in.'' I mean, how else do you expect them to take place?
it's aimed squarely at the small majority of members who keep on pushing for unnecessary rule changes.
Whether or not encouraging higher standards for blogs represents a majority or not is something you have absolutely no clue about. You can assume it is but unless you can mind read the silent majority, it's a shot in the dark.
Just like to add that this post is not directed at you kentona or the rest of the staff, it's aimed squarely at the small majority of members who keep on pushing for unnecessary rule changes.
You know, if Kentona decides to implement the change I guess he's probably partly in agreement with the small minority.
I don't know how good of an orator this message makes you but you strike me as a poor ambassador of respect. While I commend your interest in the well being of newcomers, you don't much of an hesitation of qualifying as stupid opinions different of your own.
I guess it all boils down the Max McGee paradigm, where one appeals for respect and human brotherhood but have little hesitation in describing a fellow creator's game as shit.
"Be not too hasty ... to trust, or to admire, the teachers of morality; they discourse like angels, but they live like men."
I was just trying my best to be polite
And you came across as badly passive agressive :(.
I honestly believe that you've dropped the ball on this one, like majorly.
Good day, sirah.
New rule: Stop posting shitty blogs
@alter: Kentona has mentioned before having trouble delegating, so I don't think it's necessary to rub salt in the wound there.
Perhaps removing blogs from the front page entirely is not such a bad idea either.
I have been in communites all around the world (Japanese, Chinese, French, English communities) and rmn.net is most probably the most lax regarding moderation. I guess it's all a question of comparison. When Schmup was still around, the moderation was plain nonexistant. You've been around here longer than I have, surely you've noticed that the ambiance is much better than it used to because Holbert decided to take a stance against nasty little pricks.
Perhaps removing blogs from the front page entirely is not such a bad idea either.
I am against over-moderation. There is a reason this community has a reputation for being elitist, stuck-up snobs. I am all for upholding quality and standards on this site, but turning RMN into a police state where nothing can be posted without scrutiny isn't the answer.
I have been in communites all around the world (Japanese, Chinese, French, English communities) and rmn.net is most probably the most lax regarding moderation. I guess it's all a question of comparison. When Schmup was still around, the moderation was plain nonexistant. You've been around here longer than I have, surely you've noticed that the ambiance is much better than it used to because Holbert decided to take a stance against nasty little pricks.
New rule: Stop posting shitty blogs
It's an equity thing, really. Games get bumped to the main page via "latest blogs", and it's unfortunate to see people with in-depth blog postings get bumped off by one-liners (or multiple short blogs from the same project in one afternoon).
I don't understand why some people would be against that but it doesn't really matter.
New rule: Stop posting shitty blogs
The thing people forget about blogs is that they're supposed to be for those who are following your game most of all - that's what we have notifications for. Sure, they show up on the front page but they're not really going to be drawing people to your project as much as images and downloads will. Yes, sometimes people will jump on them from there, but not as many as will from other aspects - top buzz, new images, random images, new downloads...
Hence, blogs should mostly be for informing those who have already subscribed. Besides, how likely is someone to subscribe to a game whose blog they clicked on read "OMG, ttly just finished mah super awesome battle system! LOL. Looks so awesome! Ill post vid soon gais!".
Not many.
That’s actually partly true. I often browse blogs with interesting titles to see what the game is up to and discovered good projects that way. Who knows anyway.
I'd say a rule of common sense is all that's really necessary. Do you really need to post up 5 blogs about what you've just completed in as many hours? If so, get a twitter instead.
Pretty much, yes.
I never thought that the dog-piling on people who wrote the alleged "shitty blogs" was useful or constructive, but I've long since accepted the fact that this is a community of children and that I shouldn't expect better.
How about nuancing a bit? Dog-piling about shitty blogs is not useful. Trying to set higher standards is for the front page is. It doesn’t have anything to do with “being children”, that’s a hollow argument. Featured Game make it to the front page because they show some real potential or are deemed of good quality. Why not follow the same ideal when it comes to blog or at least strive to do so?
One user caught so much flak over his blogs that he pretty much stopped posting them here. Destroying the village to save the village seems to be missing the point.
I agree, that’s a shame. I’ve been guilty of shitty blogging before because I didn’t know any better. Telling people politely is the best policy.
Basically I think this whole argument is deeply stupid and there was never a problem with blogs in the first place. Yeah, an occasional bad blog slips through. Who cares? The only way it could be a problem is if everyone blows up and acts like its a problem. Most users make fair use of the blog function and I rarely if ever see actual abuse. I mean, where is this even coming from? "You shouldn't be on the front page, so I can stay on the front page longer?" Is that really any fairer or less 'abusive?'
I don’t think your perception is stupid but I’d certainly say it’s super negative. Encouraging people to write quality blogs (without dissing them) is not about who says the longest on the front page (not in my perspective anyway) but rather about rewarding people who take the time to write quality blogs.
People claiming this is some new age or the turning of a corner just confuse me, because nothing is going to change, because this 'problem' never actually existed.
Again, nuance. Nobody said it was a new age of anything, you’re exaggerating an opposite point of view in order to ridicule it. And yeah, I disagree that this problem never existed in the first place, so let’s agree to disagree.
I think what essentially bothers you is the “burn the witch” trigger reflex when someone messes up that bothers you above everything, I doubt you’d be against higher standards when it comes to blogs.
Basically I'm seeing a bunch of people forcing a bunch of extra work on kentona and Deckiller to police a problem that didn't exist until a bunch of people decided that it did.
Holy, the drama, feels like a Hamlet all over again. This is so extreme.
As far as I know, Kentona and Deckiller are volunteers to work around here. I personally really appreciate the work they do around here and think they’re doing a damn fine job. This being said, it’s up to them to choose to deal with this or not to. If they don’t want to do it, they’re free not to. Let’s keep our feet on the ground here.
And it wasn’t a problem because people decided that it wasn’t. Sorry, but this argument can go either way and doesn’t mean anything.
but if seeing a rule in big bold print that says "no shitty blogs' makes you feel better, great.
*Sigh* again, nuance. What I think is commendable is the administration taking a stance to encourage quality blogs. What is there to be against I wonder…
New rule: Stop posting shitty blogs
Double-posting blogs will result in the deletion of the second blog, regardless of the quality of the content.
*Falls off stool at McDonald*. To think that’s exactly what I said when we had this huge debate about blogs all that time ago. This, good sir, deserves you a good old fashioned: “I told you so!” (just teasing you).
This rule should have been implemented a long time ago.
Yes.
Whenever I have time, I'll be patrolling recent blogs and warning/deleting any that do not meet this criterion. However, as the OP said, we'll need your help identifying any others. We may also do something to encourage high quality and detailed blog posts in the future.
Again, yes, this is definitely the right thing to do.
You can always put your shitty blog on some other site, or use the comments section of your game page instead (which is basically just a blog with a simpler interface, anyway)
Or even better, have the option not to display a blog on the front page. That way, everyone is happy. People who want to machine gun their blogs can do so without spamming the front page and people who take the time to write informative blogs will get the time they deserve on the front page.
Um, I have a question. Sometimes, if I work on graphics (like character portraits, sprite overhauls, not stuff like recolors or screenshots) I'll post a bunch of them to my blog without saying much else (the images are pretty self-explanatory.) Would that be okay now?
Why not post them as screenshots then or better yet, wait until you have more stuff and write an in depth blog? There’s no rush to blog about things, quality of quantity.
I never post blogs, unless it's REALLY important or I have something just exceptionally badass to promote.
And I couldn’t agree more with you my good sir. Again, quality over quantity. Less blogs of good quality.
I'm a pretty lenient guy.
I couldn’t agree more.
I think this is stupid
What's stupid about it?
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I don't think Creation was talking exclusively about blogs but more like in a general sense regarding "quality control". Heartache 101 doesn't always generates "actual discussion", half of the time is just casual conversation between the same handful of users. Besides, due to the nature of the game even some of the legitimate discussion seem utterly masturbatory superfluous. I mean, it's mostly talk about imaginary animu girlfriends... but that's besides the point.
The thing is... Remember when Heartache 101 was every week on the front page in the 'Latest download' section? Well, apparently that got fixed and they could no longer exploit that. But with the buzzing mechanic in place they started pumping "actual discussion" in that 'Custom Content' tab of theirs generating loads of artificial buzz on a regular basis. That tab alone was like a bazillion pages long until recently when it got axed in favor of two other different tabs...
Now, I can't prove if any of this was intentional. This is mostly just speculation on my part. But I find it very suspicious and it wouldn't surprise me if there is in fact even the slightest intent to 'game the system' coming from them. Not really unlike to those people who blog a lot or post tons of images of their games in hopes to catch some attention... A stricter "quality control" around these parts should come in handy to discourage all those kinds of dubious behaviors.
Pretty much, yeah.
Tweaked in what sense?
Sorry for the late reply. Perhaps give less and less ''importance'' to comments made by the users who post over and over again about a certain game? Wouldn't that fix the issue of having people buzzing their way on the front page by a group of people.
Or perhaps the option not to ''buzz'' certain aspects of a game? That way, Marrend and Inc. could have hundreds of pages of conversation about custom content without constantly hogging the front page with buzz. Important:I'm not saying they do it on purpose, but there's certainly more to rmn than heartache 101.net.
Creation Custom Crafts: Craving Criticism
Thanks!
@yuhikaru:
Better?:

@yuhikaru:
About the portrait, I'm not sure how you want to progress. The only things I have to say is that the face is pretty good, but the hair looks like just one color. I'd say it needs more contrast, since it looks strange against the detailed skin, and the face has a darker outline while the hair doesn't. Also, I feel like she should have hair behind her neck too.
Better?:

I need a tophat ;_;
I took about 10 minutes to sprite this, using SnowOwl's (?) reference:
I hope it helps, it's a bit wonky in a Burton sort of way.

I hope it helps, it's a bit wonky in a Burton sort of way.
Creation Custom Crafts: Craving Criticism
Not sure what you mean by looking snapped. Could you point out exactly what it is which is wrong exactly?
Progress bar for the stats:

Progress bar for the stats:

Creation Custom Crafts: Craving Criticism
Good point on the walking animation, Caz. I'll look at this once I'm done with the other walking animations.
Good point about the hair yukiharu (drop by more often!).
So I'd like to replace the stat names (i.e. strength and so on) with icons so I'm kind of brainstorming at the moment. Keep in mind that this is for Slimongo so that's why some elements are oriented towards oriental stuff.
Defence stat:

Strength:

Speed:

Chi/Magic:

So do you have any ideas? Things you like, dislike? Do you prefer animated or static? Share your thoughts.
Good point about the hair yukiharu (drop by more often!).
So I'd like to replace the stat names (i.e. strength and so on) with icons so I'm kind of brainstorming at the moment. Keep in mind that this is for Slimongo so that's why some elements are oriented towards oriental stuff.
Defence stat:

Strength:

Speed:

Chi/Magic:

So do you have any ideas? Things you like, dislike? Do you prefer animated or static? Share your thoughts.














