REPUBLIC'S PROFILE

I'm probably a hater, but I think the series is boring. I think I got overwhelmed by killing people on the streets in the third one. I played that out so much I never bothered with the rest of them.

That's a lot of events. O_O

author=rcholbert link=topic=974.msg13526#msg13526 date=1209429764
Al Gore is a pretty bad example. For one, he was from Tenesee, making him a southern democrat. Two, he actually won the popular vote and would have won the electoral college as well if not for Ralph Nader splitting some votes or a disturbing Florida voting process (by the same token, the Clinton/Gore ticket would have lost in 1992 if not for Perot).Three, he's not your classic liberal either. He was actually the one regarded as "strong on defense" in 2000 vs. Bush's "humble" foreign policy.

1) Northern democrat is a term I use to describe people at the liberal end of the party. I can't help it I learned it that way. XD I still call very liberal politicians in Los Angeles for example, northern democrats. That idiot who lost to the governator in the california election was a northern democrat. I even forgot his name already.

2) Winning the popular vote does not count for anything. In the end, you have to win the entire game not just a portion of it. I do give him thumbs up for taking the election to double overtime.

3) You have to project that image as a democratic candidate. Being tough in foreign policy is just like Bush being the compassionate conservative. I still don't buy into your argument. I don't know too many people in the middle making environmental movies. =\

Also, Jimmy Carter only won because of backlash against the Republicans for Watergate, not because he was a "moderate". Carter is actually more liberal than a few of the folks you lumped into the "northern" democrat.

Ok, I change my argument. He lost re-election because he was too liberal. =D

author=Thrasher link=topic=974.msg13503#msg13503 date=1209414906
There's no universal health care because the idea is demonized by conservatives who just say "MORE TAXES MORE TAXES" and people buy it. People regularly don't vote in their own interests -- do you really think the poor small-town folk who vote Republican benefit from their pro-corporate policies? People largely vote on social issues ever since Reagan and co. came into town.

I disagree that people voting on social issues aren't voting in their own interest. To the average person, those issues are probably more important than most of welfare stuff. (Except for Social Security. People get uptight when you change that) That's an area where conservatives have capitalized.

author=brandonabley link=topic=974.msg13493#msg13493 date=1209408631
So do you have a specific problem with liberalism or are you just commenting that you don't think a liberal can win?

I'm just commenting on winning. I don't think someone too far on the left will win a general election. If you're not in the middle, it's tough. The country is still conservative on certain issues. Over the last 20 some odd years, the dems have repeatedly push for people too far on the left and the rep. kept handing them losses. Clinton and the recent congressional elections had dems. that were socially conservative and they actually won. (Well, all the scandals during the elections didn't help the rep. either XD)

Although, he is a good speaker so we'll see if that could offset that, heh.