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Marrend
Guardian of the Description Thread
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Maybe I should think about getting back to writing character descriptions for SuikoProject?



Naaaaaaah.
lonestarsuperlunimary


Ya I know what you mean, I haven't exactly come out of the closet myself for the same reasons. Let me know if you ever need to chat or something.

*hug
Frogge
I wanna marry ALL the boys!! And Donna is a meanc
18995
Wanna hear my bullshit coming out story? It's a wild ride, I think.

I'm a guy and I like guys. I realized a few years back in 7th grade. So I was always kinda closete. I was very open about it online, on rmn in particular. Being able to be myself on here made me realize - I enjoy being this way! And so, I told one person who I was close with, but asked her to keep it private for the time being.
Fast forward to 9th grade aka 2016-2017. I get a huge crush on this one guy. I keep it private at first but then I start talking to my friends about it, but I never tell them it's a guy. I'm gonna refer to my friends with their initials. C is my best friend. A is another good friend of mine who had geography class with my crush. E and B are both friends who I was decently close with. S (her actual initial is C but I already used that so I'll use her surname's initial) is a girl I didn't really use to know.
So, I have art class together with I, S and E. One day I tell I about how when we leave school I tend to take the long way around just so I can see my crush. That was the first time I ever mentioned my crush (not with his name or anything, I just said ''crush''). Then she started asking me who it was. I kept it secret for a while, but C got very interested in finding out when she heard I had a crush from I. So one day I tell I who it is. She doesn't believe me at first. In fact, her reaction was something among the lines of; ''WHAT?! You're gay?! Is that why you never show any interest in the sexy girl pics we show you? I don't believe you. YOU'RE KIDDING. YOU'RE LAUGHING AT ME RIGHT NOW.''
So then eventually she slowly starts to believe it. We talk about it, and I start having casual conversations about boys with her, while attempting to keep quiet so that other people don't hear. And then one day the school takes us to a basketball game because our school was playing. So we sit in like the front row. C keeps telling me to tell her who my crush is. Of course, I don't. However, she still learns who it is that day. Wanna know how? It's pretty bullshit.
Anyway I see my crush at the front row and at some point he gets up and walks infront of us. I starts pulling my arm and whispering ''hey, hey'' as if I didn't see him already. C then looks at me like ''OH MY GOD, IT'S HIM?'' I just blush and she's like ''it's ok we accept you'' and A, who was sitting next to her starts looking at me like ''wait what's happening I didn't hear hey what's happening'' and C is just like ''shhh nevermind''
And then C starts teasing me and telling me she'll never do anything nice for me again because I didn't tell her. I'm like ''well you found out'' and she's like ''yes, but I found out, you didn't tell me.''
Of course, she's only joking, and we become even closer friends because apparently ''every girl wants a gay best friend''. So skip ahead to one day in art class where I'm sitting next to I with E sitting next to her. B and S are in front of us. B and E start saying we would make a great couple (they pronounce it as capul btw, it's hilarious) and then I goes ''well, frogge already has someone he likes''. So then S is like ''heh, well people can change their mind. Maybe he'll fall in love with you instead!''
And then, she makes a realazation. She gasps, and she whispers; ''are you gay?''
B hears and starts laughing like ''whaaaaaaaaat? Of course not!''
But then I grab a piece of paper and write down yes on it and pass it to them. S gasps again, and then B, the IDIOT sees and shouts ''OH MY GOD YOU'RE GAY?!'' with tons of people around. SOMEHOW I luck out and no one seems to hear it - except E. E is like ''well, I mean, it's just who you are, I wouldn't judge you for it. Not like you can control it.''
So then they learn I'm gay. Now they want to find out who my crush is. I gives them a few hints as they start listing everyone they know. Funnily enough, they say his name and laugh at some point like ''nahhh he's too ugly''. I don't tell them that it's him because we're in public and I do not want to be heard. So after class I tell them who it is. S is like ''whaaaaat, I said his name but you denied it!''. Meanwhile, crush is coming down the stairs nearby and B goes ''heeeeeeeeeeeyyy'' (they're good friends) and that was possibly the most awkward ''hey'' I've heard in my while, she couldn't even keep a straight face.
Fast forward and I become great friends with both S and B. At some point S and B have a fight and S starts hating me because apparently I still hang out with B even though she hates her. (btw, the reason behind their fight was so stupid, but that's a story for another time)
Anyway, before their fight, at some point I was sitting with B, S, I, A and two other people who B apparently told I was gay (without my permission btw). So we're sitting down, and one of those ''two other people'' decide to play a prank on I. He takes her notebook and writes down ''Frogge <3''
So then I panicks for some reason. She starts saying ''hey, Frogge, you remember, right? We were writing down together! We were gonna write Frogge <3 ''
And then A hears that. And I covers her mouth like OH SHIT SORRY. So I explain to A and he's pretty chill with it too.
So, I'm not that close with my crush, but one day we end up ditching school together and we go to a cafe with B and this one other dude. It was easily one of the best days of my life. Fun fact, we had this convo at some point;

Crush: Have you heard about apparently the most handsome kid in Cyprus? He's from that school or something.
B: Yeah, seen him, he's not that handsome.
Crush: WHAT?! You don't like him?!
Me: And you do? ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
SO THEN CRUSH JUST KINDA GRINS AT ME AND WE CONTINUE ON.

Some point later on, we sit down at a park and B and the other dude are saying we should leave and crush is like ''we'll leave in a bit, just sit down'' and I'm just awkwardly going ''I'll do whatever crush wants''. (Did I mention I'm very submissive btw? Lmao)

Ok well that day was amazing and I grew closer to my crush. I was so sad when it ended, but we were together for like 5 hours so there's that.

Fast forward to the end of the semester. I grew a tiny bit closer with my crush. We high fived whenever we saw each other in the hallway, and occasionally we bought food together. We didn't really have anything as amazing as that day ditching school, though.

I send him a friend request on facebook and while waiting for him to accept I decide to tell my mom. This was the hardest one of them all, because even though I knew she'd receive it well (since she has gay friends) I was still really scared. But I worked up the courage, and told her like so;

Me: I sent my crush a friend request.
Mom: oooooh, how'd it go?!
Me: Not accepted yet. I just sent it a while back though.
Mom: wow, she must be really lucky!
Me: Ummm, it's not a she.
Mom:
Mom: What do you mean?
Me: It's not a she?
Mom:
Mom: Are you gay?
Me: Yup.

It was a little hard for her to accept at first, not because she was homophobic, but because she was worried I might be confused and she didn't want me to make a decision that would hurt me. So later on she told me that I had to tell my dad, because apparently they need to discuss this. So I did.

Me: Hey, dad, there's someone from school that I like, and it's not a girl.
Dad: I KNEW IT

So my dad's initial reaction was a lot better, but then they kinda switched roles with how my dad doesn't like me being this way now and my mom's pretty much accepted it and we even joke about it.

So then, as the semester is about to end, I decide to confess to him. But B beats me to it (I told her she could tell him if she wanted, so that's on me). And guess what? While she was doing that, a classmate of mine heard. And not just any classmate - one who can't keep a secret for life. So then things were being very awkward between me and my crush and we've both been avoiding each other. But then I learned that classmate told pretty much everyone. Everyone knew.


And so, that is the very long story of how I ended up ''coming out'', or rather, how everyone learned I was gay.

So here's my advice for you; only tell a few people you trust at first. People who you think will receive it well. And then, over time, as you get more comfortable with coming out, do it! Remember, you don't have to tell everyone at once.
Heck, there's still people I'm hiding my sexuality from (like other family members) but of course I'll tell them eventually - when I'm comfortable.

Always remember - Tell people when you're comfortable.

I have more stories about coming out if anyone is interested~
Corfaisus
"It's frustrating because - as much as Corf is otherwise an irredeemable person - his 2k/3 mapping is on point." ~ psy_wombats
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author=Frogge
I have more stories about coming out if anyone is interested~

Oh do tell.


I learned a long time ago not to tell just any old classmate jackass who I've got a crush on. Back in 3rd grade (I want to say it was, maybe 2nd), I was sitting next to some guy and for some reason this conversation came up (because when you're a kid, that's the first thing you talk to anyone about). I told him I had a thing for someone a grade above us and he starts laughing like a maniac, which was already pretty bad but it was also a dark room because we were watching our lesson on a VHS tape and I saw everyone turn around to look at us. I couldn't have been more embarrassed if my pants were down.

Flash forward to the start of the next day and this other guy who I had classes with comes up to me and hands me a "letter" and I still remember what it said to this day because it was so dumb.

"My name

I love you.

Crush name"

I look at the paper then up to him and he's standing there with a dumb grin on his face like "eh? eh?" I pass him on into the building with the note in my hand but I made sure to toss it in the garbage the second he was out of sight. That shit spreads like wildfire.
Frogge
I wanna marry ALL the boys!! And Donna is a meanc
18995
Obviously, don't tell the jackasses. Tell the people you trust and feel comfortable with telling. Then again, you said you were a kid, so I guess it makes sense.

author=Corfaisus
author=Frogge
I have more stories about coming out if anyone is interested~
Oh do tell.


The story of the backup crush
I really like my crush, I do, but obviously, he's not the only cute boy at school. There are other cute boys who I like to call my ''backup crushes''. You know, just in case my actual crush doesn't work out and I have to resort to someone else instead. They're mainly just, well, backups, as in if they asked to date, I'd go along with it, but I wouldn't say I have a crush on them or anything. With the exception of this one cute guy.

He's got some really good looks. Plus, I've heard multiple people say he might be gay. So I figured, hey, seems like it's worth a try!

So I ended up messaging his best friend (who I've talked to a few times). Mind you, this was from when I was still closeted. I'm gonna refer to the cute guy as D, since that's his initial.

Me: Yo, can I ask you a question?
Him: Sure
Me: You can keep a secret, right?
Him: Obviously
Me: Is D gay?
Him: AHAHHAHHAHAHAH
Me: I really like him
Him: Wait, you're gay?
Me: Why do you think I asked if you could keep a secret
Him: Nope. Sorry, totally straight.

I honestly still kinda think he might be closeted because I know a gay person when I see one. Grrrr.


The story of the girl who was a bit confused
I tend to ditch school every once in a while. So, new character in this story, I'll call her Y.

One day, I ditched with B. We sat down at a cafe. Wouldn't you know it, I and Y came in a little later and sat with us. After a few conversations, I figured I should tell Y I'm gay because she was asking if there were any girls I liked. So I told B that I should tell her and Y was like ''tell me what?'' and B goes ''that he's gay.''

After a few seconds of pausa, Y says;

''What's gay again?''


The very very awkward IGSCE exams
I was about to take my first ever IGSCE exam. It was a turkish exam, and pretty much almost everyone from school was taking it. So, they choose our seats for us.

Well, guess what? I landed right behind my crush. It was so fucking awkward. In fact, my crush's bff was kinda cracking up (he was sitting next to my crush).

That's not the end, though.

The next exam was maths. I overheard my crush say before the exam that he forgot his id and that he was gonna pick it up and come back. So everyone was basically waiting for him and most people didn't know why he wasn't coming. So I said ''I heard he was gonna get his id from the car.''

Then, my classmate sitting behind me taps me on the shoulder and starts making noises to imply that I wanna bang my crush and this one guy from another class who I've never even really talked to joins in and that's when I realized that truly everyone knows by now...
Seiromem
I would have more makerscore If I did things.
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author=Frogge
I tend to ditch school every once in a while.


Oooh, juicy blackmail.
pianotm
The TM is for Totally Magical.
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These are the most teenage stories in the history of teenagers telling stories.

You know, your crush is only ever going to be your crush if you don't walk up to him and say something.

"What if he rejects me? I can't handle that." No, you actually can. You will get over that. It's not knowing whether or not he would reject you that you can't handle. That will haunt you forever.
Marrend
Guardian of the Description Thread
21806
I'm thinking about last night's dream.


I was being interviewed by a reporter at my old house. I can't recall much about it, but, I recall that there were two takes (the first take sucked), and this tidbit:

"My mother, well, she's okay. My father's dead."

"And how did he die?"

"A stroke."

"But that stroke was caused by a car accident, wasn't it?"

"I think it's more complex than that, but I could be off on the details. Like, I think the stroke might have been from the brain injury that was caused by that accident?"

Another thing that I specifically recall is that my eyes were closed the entire time, yet I could see perfectly.




author=pianotm
You know, your crush is only ever going to be your crush if you don't walk up to him and say something.

"What if he rejects me? I can't handle that." No, you actually can. You will get over that. It's not knowing whether or not he would reject you that you can't handle. That will haunt you forever.

Darigaaz, this. So. Much. This.


Back when I graduated middle school, a friend of mine showed me his yearbook that said "Your friend, <real name> is cute!" authored by a girl (who shall remain nameless). I did not take the news very well. Hell, I didn't even think it was possible somebody could feel that way towards me. I scoffed at the idea at first, but, the question of "what if she actually likes me?" plagued my mind for years on end. What's worse is that she went to the same high school as I did, but I still did nothing.

I'm not sure if it was a crush that I had on her, or if it was some kind of obsession. Still, even during the one-and-only time we actually talked to each other during the 5th-year graduation ceremony, it hurt so terribly. The subject came up, and I just could not. Spit. Anything. Out.


*Edit: Aaaaaaaand, there goes any inclination of doing stuff today!
I'm male and I like girls but
I like penises and have a little sexual attraction to them

When I was smaller I didn't like them but now I do. I think I'm turning bi...
Sometimes I get red when I'm with some male friends and with some females too :/

Anyways, I think I am a little bi and I don't give a shit of what my family think.
Last year, I had the opportunity of being with a guy but I didn't tried and we end being friends.
Corfaisus
"It's frustrating because - as much as Corf is otherwise an irredeemable person - his 2k/3 mapping is on point." ~ psy_wombats
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author=Marrend
"Your friend, <real name> is cute!" authored by a girl

I've been there. I thought it was a prank at my expense (probably because of that "letter" I received in 2nd/3rd grade) because in 9th grade, the girl's friend came up and asked me if I was interested in dating her. I said no with such bravado that I think it left her staggered. Later on I'd reason it out as "if she couldn't ask me herself, how would that have worked out in a dating scenario?" to which I understood it wouldn't.

Even later than that, a girl and her friend came up to me (different people, I'm almost certain) and she told me that she had a crush on me in school. They walked away and I had that thought in my mind as they were leaving like "jeez, I wish I had known that years ago when it was relevant." I say this because - while I've enjoyed my first and second kiss (thanks, stranger at a Dallas anime convention; maybe next time don't moisten up your lips so much and keep your tongue* to people you know better) - I've never actually had a girlfriend.

*I could feel some third thing trying to press against my lips which I would've gladly reciprocated if I wasn't already concerned about getting oral herpes from a stranger at 14.
Roden
who could forget dear ratboy
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author=M_Reven
I'm male and I like girls but
I like penises and have a little sexual attraction to them

When I was smaller I didn't like them but now I do. I think I'm turning bi...
Sometimes I get red when I'm with some male friends and with some females too :/

Anyways, I think I am a little bi and I don't give a shit of what my family think.
Last year, I had the opportunity of being with a guy but I didn't tried and we end being friends.


Embrace it.

I used to be the same way for the longest time. Society conditions men to sort of reject the thought or downplay it- I wold constantly say I was "only sexually attracted to men, not romantically attracted, and only certain specific men, etc, etc.

Eventually with the help of friends I was able to come out as bisexual. Regardless of what my parents think about it (which is hard to gauge sometimes tbh) it feels good to just admit to yourself and enjoy your sexuality.

All of those previous excuses have been thrown off of my back now, and I can just be myself. It's good stuff.

EMBRACE IT
Corfaisus
"It's frustrating because - as much as Corf is otherwise an irredeemable person - his 2k/3 mapping is on point." ~ psy_wombats
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author=Roden
author=M_Reven
I'm male and I like girls but
I like penises and have a little sexual attraction to them

When I was smaller I didn't like them but now I do. I think I'm turning bi...
Sometimes I get red when I'm with some male friends and with some females too :/

Anyways, I think I am a little bi and I don't give a shit of what my family think.
Last year, I had the opportunity of being with a guy but I didn't tried and we end being friends.
Embrace it.

I used to be the same way for the longest time. Society conditions men to sort of reject the thought or downplay it- I wold constantly say I was "only sexually attracted to men, not romantically attracted, and only certain specific men, etc, etc.

Eventually with the help of friends I was able to come out as bisexual. Regardless of what my parents think about it (which is hard to gauge sometimes tbh) it feels good to just admit to yourself and enjoy your sexuality.

All of those previous excuses have been thrown off of my back now, and I can just be myself. It's good stuff.

EMBRACE IT


Congratulations on your freedom. I trust you'll start collecting and framing Fratley art to go along with your Freya stuff now?
Roden
who could forget dear ratboy
3857
Corfaisus
Congratulations on your freedom. I trust you'll start collecting and framing Fratley art to go along with your Freya stuff now?


Who needs Fratley when you have access to Pedro's rippling-abbed jaguar body tbh



who needs him
author=M_Reven
I'm male and I like girls but
I like penises and have a little sexual attraction to them

When I was smaller I didn't like them but now I do. I think I'm turning bi...
Sometimes I get red when I'm with some male friends and with some females too :/

Anyways, I think I am a little bi and I don't give a shit of what my family think.
Last year, I had the opportunity of being with a guy but I didn't tried and we end being friends.


Welcome to the club, bud. We have pancakes every Tuesday and no limit on the syrup allowed. ;p
CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK
On sunny days, I go out walking
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author=Corfaisus
The biggest question is why did she have to die? And I don't mean this in a mopey way, just for complete transparency. Spoiler alert for the end of Final Fantasy 7, but even with Holy coming in to save the world from Meteor, it actually gave Meteor strength and it wasn't until the Lifestream decided to take a piss all over the world that there was any hope of the world one day being semi-inhabitable again, hence why at the end of the game when it's like "100 years later", the place is still a mess but there's grass sprouting up around the ruins of Midgar so that's an improvement.

It's like all they wanted was for a big shocking maybe-death like in the prequel (which I've already stated my problems with), but with other people meeting their end by "Sephiroth's" Masamune (the president of Shin-Ra* was honestly more disturbing because "he" left it stuck in his back), they didn't need Aerithhhhhhhhhhhhhh *steam valve broke* to bite it, too.

*It's funny, because I went to Google the president of Shinra to make sure it was the same character I was thinking about and found this. Internet, you funny.


holy doesn't help meteor. it just, kind of sucks. the line "holy is having the opposite effect" is misleading. sephiroth was just holding it at bay for so long that it was way too late for it to actually do anything. I will not address the rest of your points as they are criminally bad.
Corfaisus
"It's frustrating because - as much as Corf is otherwise an irredeemable person - his 2k/3 mapping is on point." ~ psy_wombats
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author=CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK
author=Corfaisus
The biggest question is why did she have to die? And I don't mean this in a mopey way, just for complete transparency. Spoiler alert for the end of Final Fantasy 7, but even with Holy coming in to save the world from Meteor, it actually gave Meteor strength and it wasn't until the Lifestream decided to take a piss all over the world that there was any hope of the world one day being semi-inhabitable again, hence why at the end of the game when it's like "100 years later", the place is still a mess but there's grass sprouting up around the ruins of Midgar so that's an improvement.

It's like all they wanted was for a big shocking maybe-death like in the prequel (which I've already stated my problems with), but with other people meeting their end by "Sephiroth's" Masamune (the president of Shin-Ra* was honestly more disturbing because "he" left it stuck in his back), they didn't need Aerithhhhhhhhhhhhhh *steam valve broke* to bite it, too.

*It's funny, because I went to Google the president of Shinra to make sure it was the same character I was thinking about and found this. Internet, you funny.
holy doesn't help meteor. it just, kind of sucks. the line "holy is having the opposite effect" is misleading. sephiroth was just holding it at bay for so long that it was way too late for it to actually do anything. I will not address the rest of your points as they are criminally bad.

The line "Holy is having the opposite effect" is all we have to go off of. If there's an error here, it's with the translation team. I'm just debating the value of what's being presented here, and I'll swear til the cows come home that FF7's legacy was its jump to 3D and not its story, putting it on par with Super Mario 64 and its controls.

Also Sephiroth was what? ????
CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK
On sunny days, I go out walking
1142
its a translation error. i mean, the line itself is in broken english, for starters. but even in the context of the broken translation, they are talking about it being too late.

It's too late for Holy.
Meteor is approaching the Planet.

aeris summons holy before she dies. she sure didnt summon it AFTER she died. the reason it never does anything before sephiroth dies is because he is actively holding it back with jenova power.

excluding cloud's character development, which aeris' death is very important to, she's very important for the game's spiritual theme. the lifestream saving everyone is extremely limp and stupid if its just this vague spiritual life energy, but it is GOOD if you show aeris amidst lifestream particles, just before credits. she lives on and has agency after death, as do all humans

The concept of Lifestream was one of the earliest ideas envisioned for Final Fantasy VII, as it was already in place in Hironobu Sakaguchi's first story draft, which was drastically different from the final story eventually completed mainly by Yoshinori Kitase and Kazushige Nojima. Sakaguchi has noted the game's central theme of "life" dating back to when his mother passed away while he was working on Final Fantasy III (uncertain whether the interview is referring to Final Fantasy III or Final Fantasy VI), after which he always wanted to explore the theme of "life" in a "mathematical and logical way to overcome the mental shock.
Roden
who could forget dear ratboy
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CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK
aeris summons holy before she dies. she sure didnt summon it AFTER she died. the reason it never does anything before sephiroth dies is because he is actively holding it back with jenova power.

excluding cloud's character development, which aeris' death is very important to, she's very important for the game's spiritual theme. the lifestream saving everyone is extremely limp and stupid if its just this vague spiritual life energy, but it is GOOD if you show aeris amidst lifestream particles, just before credits. she lives on and has agency after death, as do all humans


This is kind of what I wanted to say but way more intelligently put and also: with the ability to recall things in the game
Corfaisus
"It's frustrating because - as much as Corf is otherwise an irredeemable person - his 2k/3 mapping is on point." ~ psy_wombats
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So Aeris is only useful but in super specific scenarios like not the one that has to do with her actually dying and the White Materia bouncing off the fountains to her theme (her summoning Holy and Sephiroth trying to undo it), more in a Deus Ex Machina sort of way (Sephiroth prevents Holy but Aeris pulls an elementary playground godmode "gotcha" with planetary life force power infinity plus one)? Got it. And where was Holy in all of this? Meteor was in the sky, but nowhere on Gaia was there any evidence that Holy was doing diddly squat.

It really just sounded better when Holy had an adverse reaction to Meteor as it's displayed in the FMV.

author=CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK
she lives on and has agency after death, as do all humans

That's some hippy dippy religion garbage that's not relevant to her as a character according to a previous discussion.

author=Jeroen_Sol
... What does Aerith being character of faith have to do with anything?

And to clarify, if she has the power to draw the Lifestream out and save the planet from Meteor, what would've stopped her from summoning Holy after her death? Why is Holy so insignificant if they spent so much time building it up and showing that Aeris was the only one who was capable of wielding its power as evidence by it falling off of her ribbon during her death. Why are we making excuses for a convenient twist?

I don't think anyone's ever made this much hoopla out of defending Time Kompression in Final Fantasy 8 on the back of Guardian Forces already undoing all of one's perspective universe via stealing memories. I'm thinking we all just went into it thinking "they've got an idea", then when it got stretched too thin we accepted that the heads at the drawing board threw up their hands, chanted "fuck it" and tossed the universe getting spun inside out because the player won't ever see that coming. They'll be left thinking "all hope is lost", then LOL happy ending.
CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK
On sunny days, I go out walking
1142
you can imagine that holy and the lifestream had to work together and support each other in order to stop meteor, if you really want to. it might even be true. im not sure how the spirituality theme that she serves to eventually literally enbody is hippie religion garbage not relevant to her character but UHHHHHH ok. i will tell sakaguchi.

aeris isnt...controlling the lifestream. shes just a part of it. its not like she had to convince every other dead spirit that the planet was worth saving and then spearheaded the attempt. you cant use materia after you die because ghosts have no materia slots. it doesnt work (by ITSELF!!!!?????) because they take so long to kill sephiroth. i dont know why you think holy has to be equal to meteor though. its just what they think their best shot is. its not like dbz where everything has to have equal power levels, but if it was, think of lifestream as 'the spirit bomb.' the lifestream thing is kind of built up and talked about for the entire game. its not really a weird thing that comes out of nowhere.

is what is now three posts considered a hooplah? i guess so. i prefer to think of my posting as hippy dippy religion garbage.