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I'd agree with LockeZ if it wasn't a symbol of oppression. Americans like destroying symbols of oppression~
Reminds of this although not quite the same
edit: I... I didn't want this page. Read Libby's post on the page before it's really big XD
Reminds of this although not quite the same
edit: I... I didn't want this page. Read Libby's post on the page before it's really big XD
LockeZ
I'd really like to get rid of LockeZ. His play style is way too unpredictable. He's always like this too. If he ran a country, he'd just kill and imprison people at random until crime stopped.
5958
Burning books and toppling statues isn't a solution to anything. In another 150 years they're going to microwave all the copies of FF7 because it's a symbol of hate against corporations.
author=LockeZit's okay to hate corporations tho.
Burning books and toppling statues isn't a solution to anything. In another 150 years they're going to microwave all the copies of FF7 because it's a symbol of hate against corporations.
Also it seems to me that this argument frames slavery as having only grown out of favor rather than also being inherently morally abhorrent like it is.
and um I don't... think people are burning books? O.o
LockeZ
I'd really like to get rid of LockeZ. His play style is way too unpredictable. He's always like this too. If he ran a country, he'd just kill and imprison people at random until crime stopped.
5958
That's what people in 150 years will say about your hate against corporations.
Edit:
The idea that freedom is more important than productivity is not intrinsic to the cosmos. People in the future might think that the loss of freedom caused by slavery is arguably kinda bad, while the loss of productivity caused by self-employment is inherently inexcusable.
Of course, the reason they'll think this is that it'll have been ingrained into their heads by the corporations that control all of human civilization. But that's where our beliefs come from too - they were ingrained into us by the billions of individuals that refuse to give up control of their own lives.
Nothing is inherently morally abhorrent except for mayonnaise on pizza.
Edit:
The idea that freedom is more important than productivity is not intrinsic to the cosmos. People in the future might think that the loss of freedom caused by slavery is arguably kinda bad, while the loss of productivity caused by self-employment is inherently inexcusable.
Of course, the reason they'll think this is that it'll have been ingrained into their heads by the corporations that control all of human civilization. But that's where our beliefs come from too - they were ingrained into us by the billions of individuals that refuse to give up control of their own lives.
Nothing is inherently morally abhorrent except for mayonnaise on pizza.
author=LockeZyea but that's because they live in a cyberpunk future where the evil corporations oppress them duh XD
That's what people in 150 years will say about your hate against corporations.
EDIT: JUST SAW YOUR EDIT HIGH FIVE FOR SAME THOUGHT LOL although, the cosmos can shove its political opinons (especially if it ain't going to come vouch for its beliefs itself)
author=LibertyYeah, they might be about 150 years too late to match the Berlin Wall moment.
Then again, looking back in history, the destruction of oppressive symbols have always stood out strong and been remembered. Berlin wall, for a great example. The building and destruction there-of is a big memory of an oppressive regime that came and went and the destruction of said wall became a symbol of the human spirits who could not be divided. I doubt this will have the same lasting remembrance, but it's still showing the emotion of the moment.
I think they should've simply carted the thing off somewhere. Smashing it will probably just play into the "violent/intolerant left"/"revolutionary-wannabe millennials" rhetoric.
e: wait, I think I have some news stories mixed up. So, the statue in the GIF was just something protestors did on their own accord someplace else? That's... an even worse look, honestly.
LockeZ
I'd really like to get rid of LockeZ. His play style is way too unpredictable. He's always like this too. If he ran a country, he'd just kill and imprison people at random until crime stopped.
5958
author=Gourd_Clae
the cosmos can shove its political opinons (especially if it ain't going to come vouch for its beliefs itself)
You don't want that. That's how you get Meteor crashing into the planet to destroy the corporations.
"Don't destroy art :(" is a pretty lame excuse for why we should be nice and not wreck statues of white supremacists and other oppressors. They shouldn't have been there in the first place frankly.
Like, forget for a sec that art isn't even real in the first place- something counting as "art" (an argument that can be made about literally anything) doesn't remove the fact that it's there to commemorate hideous, racist people who were fighting to keep slavery legal. You don't see nazi statues standing around in Germany cause they're "art".
Acting like its an issue of "people need to remember the past" is silly since the preservation of pro-racist art is not an integral part of teaching people why the confederacy was wrong. Erect a statue of the slaves that fought to free themselves instead. Same history, same rememberance- a deserving subject instead of some pig.
Being civil only works when your opponents ar willing to listen. Considering you have armed white supremacist terrorists showimg up to rallies with assault rifles and military gear (and driving cars into people to try and murder them) we're long past the point of "civility".
Like, forget for a sec that art isn't even real in the first place- something counting as "art" (an argument that can be made about literally anything) doesn't remove the fact that it's there to commemorate hideous, racist people who were fighting to keep slavery legal. You don't see nazi statues standing around in Germany cause they're "art".
Acting like its an issue of "people need to remember the past" is silly since the preservation of pro-racist art is not an integral part of teaching people why the confederacy was wrong. Erect a statue of the slaves that fought to free themselves instead. Same history, same rememberance- a deserving subject instead of some pig.
Being civil only works when your opponents ar willing to listen. Considering you have armed white supremacist terrorists showimg up to rallies with assault rifles and military gear (and driving cars into people to try and murder them) we're long past the point of "civility".
LockeZ
I'd really like to get rid of LockeZ. His play style is way too unpredictable. He's always like this too. If he ran a country, he'd just kill and imprison people at random until crime stopped.
5958
Should we also burn all photographs of the Nanking Massacre? Destroy the statues and paintings of the Rape of Sabine Women?
Art of terrible subjects is just as important as art of noble ones - and probably moreso.
Art of terrible subjects is just as important as art of noble ones - and probably moreso.
Well it is a bit annoying if people destroy fairly old pieces of art when it could just be removed and stored somewhere and occasionally shown in an "exhibit of racist art".
I mean at the fall of the Soviet Union a lot of "communist hero" statues got destroyed or defaced and it is a bit sad that some of them will be lost forever, but it's also clear that not every single one of them needed to be preserved.
And it is also clear they didn't need to be in public places anymore.
EDIT: Also I read somewhere that a lot of the statues are actually mass produced garbage. So it's probably okay to destroy most of those.
EDIT2: https://twitter.com/taber/status/897292040790323201 is where I read it. Quite interesting.
I mean at the fall of the Soviet Union a lot of "communist hero" statues got destroyed or defaced and it is a bit sad that some of them will be lost forever, but it's also clear that not every single one of them needed to be preserved.
And it is also clear they didn't need to be in public places anymore.
EDIT: Also I read somewhere that a lot of the statues are actually mass produced garbage. So it's probably okay to destroy most of those.
EDIT2: https://twitter.com/taber/status/897292040790323201 is where I read it. Quite interesting.
author=LockeZ
Nothing is inherently morally abhorrent except for mayonnaise on pizza.
I'll have you know that mayonnaise can be nice on certain pizza. It's not for every pizza though. Just like pineapple.
Jeroen_Sol
Nothing reveals Humanity so well as the games it plays. A game of betrayal, where the most suspicious person is brutally murdered? How savage.
3885
Okay, but what about mayonnaise AND pineapple on pizza? Surely that must be inherently morally abhorrent?
author=Jeroen_Sol
Okay, but what about mayonnaise AND pineapple on pizza? Surely that must be inherently morally abhorrent?
I did it all the time when I lived in Toronto. With broccoli on there too
LockeZ
I'd really like to get rid of LockeZ. His play style is way too unpredictable. He's always like this too. If he ran a country, he'd just kill and imprison people at random until crime stopped.
5958
oh my fucking god
Shit was good. My go to pizza order was broccoli, black olive, sundried tomato, mushroom, & pineapple with jalapeno ranch + blue cheese dips. Used mayo when I ran out of the dip.
It's not surprising that this combined with rampant alcoholism led to weight gain of about 40lbs over the course of a few months.
Don't really eat much pizza anymore. Hard to get good stuff now that I've moved back to NFLD, and I'm losing weight again so I have no time for it tbh
It's not surprising that this combined with rampant alcoholism led to weight gain of about 40lbs over the course of a few months.
Don't really eat much pizza anymore. Hard to get good stuff now that I've moved back to NFLD, and I'm losing weight again so I have no time for it tbh
Jeroen_Sol
Nothing reveals Humanity so well as the games it plays. A game of betrayal, where the most suspicious person is brutally murdered? How savage.
3885
My go to pizza has always been and still is Quatro Formaggi. Also, my roommate hates cheese, so I can buy them in bulk frozen and be confident that they'll still be in the freezer on a rainy day.
I wouldn't mind mayo on pizza. I hate ketchup, so I'd prefer mayo either way.




















