PHOENIX WRIGHT: ACE MAFIA

Ahh thanks for the clarification. :]

Well well well, everyone seems to be lynching YOU and it's only been the first day haha xD

To vote, or not to vote? That is the question... *in deep thought*

A scumteam member from last game.

On second thought, you're not that similar. Just that one post.

I'm wondering what on earth the ??????? might be. Anticipating that flip.

There are eleven people who can be considered "town" for purposes of the town vs. scum votecount since we don't know what alignment, if any, the mystery role is. One of the independents might have killing powers as well, so this game could probably potentially go to LYLO within two days.

May I suggest MrChearlie? He was mafia two games in a row! Then again, if he managed to be mafia again, maybe we can just leave him as the last one standing, considering his record of entering scoop phase?

One thing we also need to keep in mind is that we haven't been told the victory conditions for each faction. Does town win if they just get rid of the Mafia or do they need to kill ??? and the independents too? The independents could have any number of win condition combinations but usually their only real requirement is that they're still alive at the end of the game. As for ???, I have no idea, but if those of us who've played the PW games put our heads together we might be able to figure it out.

author=Trihan
One thing we also need to keep in mind is that we haven't been told the victory conditions for each faction. Does town win if they just get rid of the Mafia or do they need to kill ??? and the independents too? The independents could have any number of win condition combinations but usually their only real requirement is that they're still alive at the end of the game. As for ???, I have no idea, but if those of us who've played the PW games put our heads together we might be able to figure it out.

Gourd Clae has stated multiple times that these rules are more traditional.

Mafia win if they control the lynch
Town wins when scum are eliminated
Independents have win conditions that are...independent

????? is ?????

author=Trihan
The first thing I think of when trying to combine secret boss with Phoenix Wright is Damon Gant. My second guess would be Kristoph Gavin. Any other ideas?

Why do you assume that the mystery player is indeed an antagonist of some sort and not a more benevolent role? Or just a souped up independent?
It also doesn't do us any good to guess what the flavor of the mystery role is. Flavor doesn't equal alignment, for one. Also, I doubt whoever that role is going to claim if we guess the name.

author=ivoryjones
Two in a row? That's a record! o_O Well, tbh he does look kinda suspicious.

Why does someone who has not posted yet in a game that has not been open 24 hours look suspicious to you?

Regarding the mystery person:
Maybe some deus ex machina in the game? You know, that blind woman in Apollo Justice that turned out to be his mother? I think she's the most likely one.

^Haha. I'm probably going to Despite until tomorrow to actually say something...

I'm guessing ?????? is a player who's able to pick whichever alliance they please, whenever they please.

author=CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK
Why do you assume that the mystery player is indeed an antagonist of some sort and not a more benevolent role? Or just a souped up independent?
It also doesn't do us any good to guess what the flavor of the mystery role is. Flavor doesn't equal alignment, for one. Also, I doubt whoever that role is going to claim if we guess the name.

Show me a single Mafia game where a mystery role has been helpful to the town. Just one. Every single time I've been in a game with a "secret boss" they've been some form of antagonist. I'm just trying to stay ahead of the game by theorising what that means for us. If you don't like it you don't have to play my game. :)

Flavour indeed doesn't equal alignment, however the chances that we'd get characters who are heroes/villains in the games that aren't the same alignment in this game are lower than the alternative. Do you honestly think Phoenix Wright would be Mafia, for instance?

Okay, but you keep saying secret boss. As in, the boss of the mafia? Or, something to be taken care of once all mafia are gone? Independent roles can frequently be helpful to town as long as it is beneficial to them. Unless the mystery role's win condition is to not get lynched at 3-way LYLO, I don't see why this would be any different. You aren't theorizing what this mystery role might mean for us, you're guessing what flavor character it might be, and guessing flavor characters that have clear scum explanations (Gant-Scumcop, Gavin-Scum Forger)

Yeah, I do think Wright could be mafia if the host was creative enough. I've seen PW mafia games where Max Galactica was scum, a game where Godot was scum with Dahlia Hawthorne, a game where winston payne was scum...Wright being scum would make for an interesting story.

That said, I am heavily against lynching Despite for "lurking in other games." I don't know what Gourd_Clae's rules are regarding inactivity this round, but it would be helpful to know how he plans to deal with lurkers.

So far, I would be content lynching mirrormasq, chearlie, and ivoryjones.