MAFIA OF THE DEATH NOTE - GAME THREAD

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...then you won't fare well if you meet me irl then...
And I'm surprised cave didn't intimidate you rather me instead.
I call things how I see them. ^^

MirrorMasq hasn't said anything in a while.
Point out where I lied or misled, Cave. Point it out.
It's funny, though. Because, you see, the one who keeps bringing up the 'meta' is you. Almost like you're fishing for a response. Well, no more responses to that from me. I've said what I wanted to say about that.
Secondly, I hope the mafia enjoys it's victory because the way other townies are playing right now makes me sad to even be a part of the group. You're letting yourselves be led by people who shouldn't be allowed a lead and jump on anyone who differs from the.
So TBG asked a few questions. Where does it say that that is a mafia move? I've not seen a game myself where that is more scummy than not. I didn't jump on him because I saw it as someone trying to find information out about the other players - yes that can be seen as scummy, but as a townie, I too was interested in any answers that would pop up. Because I also want information on the first day.
Trying something different to get reactions - that's what it's about people. Not being led around by the nose of every Jack, Gourd and Cave.
Why don't I vote for myself? Hm... let me see... uh, because that would be stupid? Any one in this game knows that for a fact. No one WANTS to get strung up, but if it happens, then I hope people remember my words.
author=Liberty
It's funny, though. Because, you see, the one who keeps bringing up the 'meta' is you. Almost like you're fishing for a response. Well, no more responses to that from me. I've said what I wanted to say about that.
Secondly, I hope the mafia enjoys it's victory because the way other townies are playing right now makes me sad to even be a part of the group. You're letting yourselves be led by people who shouldn't be allowed a lead and jump on anyone who differs from the so called 'norm'.
So TBG asked a few questions. Where does it say that that is a mafia move? I've not seen a game myself where that is more scummy than not. I didn't jump on him because I saw it as someone trying to find information out about the other players - yes that can be seen as scummy, but as a townie, I too was interested in any answers that would pop up. Because I also want information on the first day.
Trying something different to get reactions - that's what it's about people. Not being led around by the nose of every Jack, Gourd and Cave.
Why don't I vote for myself? Hm... let me see... uh, because that would be stupid? Any one in this game knows that for a fact. No one WANTS to get strung up, but if it happens, then I hope people remember my words.

And anyone who says that someone should vote for themselves should be put to question about their motives.
I'm not saying that being suspicious of me is a bad thing. I've led myself to this corner and fine, I can deal with that. But don't be led into a lynch just because someone is pushing for it and doing so in a way that should make you question their motives.
I've been upfront from the start - barring the sugar high I was on to begin with, of course - and made mistakes from time to time, but at least I was trying to use clues that were given to find a crack.

So, just for the record: Cave and Gourd - mafia.

(Quoted because my mouse went stupid before I finished.) >.<;
Why on Earth did cave ask you that?
Ask me what? Be a bit more precise, he's asked a lot of questions.
To vote for yourself, that was exponentially dumb and suspicious.
CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK
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author=Liberty
Point out where I lied or misled, Cave. Point it out.


I did.

And I'm getting a scummy vibe off you again - I have for quite a while actually. You've been gunning for me since the start and yes, I was being annoying back then but I've since calmed down and yet you're still adamant in going for me.


yeah this is a load too. Here's why. This is your last post in the thread before the one I just quoted:
Might be a good idea to let YM edit his quote too. Spoilers~
>.<;

There are four Kira supporters (Mafia in this game), 2 'Mafia' (Independents) and a ???. I'm thinking the ??? might be Ryuuk. Maybe. The more I think on it, the more I think Mello would be an Independent. (One thing that was wrong with my theories before was that I hadn't read the roles correctly and took it to mean that there were 6 mafia - 2 being the main roles and the other four being like a cult thing, seperated from the real mafia, but still a threat. Hence why I was pushing for Mello to be ??? because I thought that was the only Independent role. >.<; )


do you still want to continue lying

do you


Because, you see, the one who keeps bringing up the 'meta' is you. Almost like you're fishing for a response. Well, no more responses to that from me. I've said what I wanted to say about that.


fishing for a response? DO you know what "Rolefishing" is? I'm bringing up your meta shit because it is relevant to the discussion.

Why don't I vote for myself? Hm... let me see... uh, because that would be stupid? Any one in this game knows that for a fact. No one WANTS to get strung up, but if it happens, then I hope people remember my words.


You certainly wouldn't be getting nightkilled if you were town, and you say that your death would reveal two members of the scumteam. Two is more than one. If you were town, you would want to do this.

I didn't ask her to vote for herself. I told her to. Because I and everyone aligned with justice wants her out of this game.
CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK
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Liberty
And if my death serves to see either or both of you hung, then that's fine with me.


Oh, I'm totally fine with dying. Oh, wait, I actually might die. Just kidding. That was a joke.
author=CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK
If Liberty is mafia, chana definitely is because she says she is scummy and won't vote her. Probably YM too. I have reason to believe that Gourd is town, and I think Idida is just pretending to still be reading this thread.

You're wrong if you think I haven't put any plans into motion, though. I made a series of posts that will prove my claim when I make it.


Not mafia. And how about you show us this so-called series of posts that will prove your claim? That way it'll be nice and fresh in peoples' minds when you do so and all in one handy post you can just quote.


duuuaah yes I do Oh WAIT IT WAS A TRICK!!! You know what one of the villains in FF2 mafia claimed? You should, because I linked you to the thread. He claimed "Firion." As in, the main protagonist of FF2. Jeroen was in that game, almost got owned by the fakeclaims, and it was his first mafia game, so you are deluded if you think he didn't include any fakeclaims in a game that is heavy on flavor. Unless Death Note only has 15 characters total, your argument is total wash.


Oh, sure, because I totally read the whole bloody thing. I saw enough to see that what you were claiming about loved being able to be mafia (which was in your own game, fitted that character - though you say you didn't think of that when you added it - and is the only game I've now seen with that.) and didn't stop to read about fake claims and whatever else. Good on ya, there's fake claims. Fine. I could be fake claiming. But I'm not. And I wish you luck proving I that I am because, well, as I said. I'm not.

yeah this is a load too. Here's why. This is your last post in the thread before the one I just quoted:

Might be a good idea to let YM edit his quote too. Spoilers~
>.<;

There are four Kira supporters (Mafia in this game), 2 'Mafia' (Independents) and a ???. I'm thinking the ??? might be Ryuuk. Maybe. The more I think on it, the more I think Mello would be an Independent. (One thing that was wrong with my theories before was that I hadn't read the roles correctly and took it to mean that there were 6 mafia - 2 being the main roles and the other four being like a cult thing, seperated from the real mafia, but still a threat. Hence why I was pushing for Mello to be ??? because I thought that was the only Independent role. >.<; )


Full of meta garbage. You had not stopped anything by the time I made my posts.


Already addressed that, sweetie.

Not only has Liberty destroyed most of day 1, she is and has for a while now been plainly lying and misrepresenting people in her posts.

Show where.

What reasons? That she's been stubborn with her metagaming for 95 percent of her posting despite numerous people telling her to knock it off? This is not evidence of being town. Does everyone remember how Liberty acted in Higurashi mafia? Whatever happened to that?


It's called playing differently. Even you're 'supposedly' doing so this time around. How interesting are your double standards. The only difference is that I declared my intention to do it this way, waaaaaay back at the start. And apparently I shouldn't have fallen for your and Gourds repeated traps of making me repeat myself over and over. Nice play. I'll have to keep an eye out for it in the next game.

author=CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK
Liberty
And if my death serves to see either or both of you hung, then that's fine with me.
Oh, I'm totally fine with dying. Oh, wait, I actually might die. Just kidding. That was a joke.

Oh, I'm fine with dying if it means that you'll go down with me, scum. That doesn't mean I want to die but if I do, fine. Hm... this sounds familiar... almost like I've heard it somewhere before but I'm not sure... OH WAIT! It's what I already said in reply to that!

A joke? No. A very real possibility. I'm just not too bothered because if people wise up they might actually be able to put you in your place, scum.
CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK
On sunny days, I go out walking
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Not mafia. And how about you show us this so-called series of posts that will prove your claim? That way it'll be nice and fresh in peoples' minds when you do so and all in one handy post you can just quote.


are you this desperate.

What happens when a series of posts meant to prove a claim is revealed

What do you think immediately becomes obvious. I'll reveal them when I'm ready to claim.


Already addressed that, sweetie.


no you didn't. you can't actually just yell lalala and force reality to be different.

Show where.


fhuhrg IT'S IN YOUR OWN POST JUST NOW but I can dredge up more examples if you want.

Yeah, playing differently. You used to play in a way that was helpful to town, and now you're not. A cunning town strategy and also exactly the same thing that I am doing. Yes. Exactly. Yes.
CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK
On sunny days, I go out walking
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Oh, I'm fine with dying if it means that you'll go down with me, scum. That doesn't mean I want to die but if I do, fine. Hm... this sounds familiar... almost like I've heard it somewhere before but I'm not sure... OH WAIT! It's what I already said in reply to that!


You already said that your death would mean that I would go down, so you want to die. But you're actually not fine with it. But you are. But you aren't. But you are. But you aren't. How many votes would be enough for you to rescind this suicide plan altogether? Five? Seven?
What? I just didn't know what the heck you were talking about.
CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK
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Also, no-one has brought up fake roles before you did (of if they did, I didn't notice) and you've been pretty adamant at pointing out that a loved character can be an independent one - but the only reference you have is a game you yourself ran. Hell, I'm making up new and interesting roles for when I host my own game, but I wouldn't judge other peoples' games by those roles because I twist them to be different.


So what? Do any of your arguments have any relevance when weighed against reality? You posted "Have you ever heard of a loved player that was not townie?" Were you really expecting me to not give you a direct example of just that to disprove your argument? As long as it's possible, your argument has no merit. The second part of the post I quoted doesn't even make any sense and is in fact CONTRADICTORY to the position you held earlier, i.e. "Have you ever heard of a loved player that was not townie?" Which is it, Liberty? Is this game unconventional or conventional? You can't have it both ways.


Here is me summing up another instance of you trying to wriggle out of my crushing grip of reason.


fishing for a response? DO you know what "Rolefishing" is? I'm bringing up your meta shit because it is relevant to the discussion.
Not talking about that. Fisher.
You certainly wouldn't be getting nightkilled if you were town, and you say that your death would reveal two members of the scumteam. Two is more than one. If you were town, you would want to do this.

How would you know I wouldn't get night killed unless you're mafia and deliberately holding off to make someone look suspicious? I've already pointed out my power and it's easy to prove - already offered to prove it too, but no takers. You're the only one who's pushed to disprove it as a positive and only have one - ONE - example of it not being a town move.

I didn't ask her to vote for herself. I told her to. Because I and everyone aligned with justice wants her out of this game.

Wrong. You want me killed so that there will be one less townie to have to kill off. With 9 townies in the game and only one night kill between the mafia (unless there's a mafia vig or something like that) it must look a daunting task to take out that many. Add the chances that you'll choose wrong and take out an Indy or ??? instead and that's a total of 12 people - mafia needs to kill off at least 6 police with only one kill at night, so I guess gunning for a townie each day is the best way for you to do your job.
I'm not gonna make it easier by voting myself off. I may not have a great power but I can make a difference. And if I am wrong, then I'll have killed myself for nothing. I'm not gonna screw town over just because of you.

author=CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK
Also, no-one has brought up fake roles before you did (of if they did, I didn't notice) and you've been pretty adamant at pointing out that a loved character can be an independent one - but the only reference you have is a game you yourself ran. Hell, I'm making up new and interesting roles for when I host my own game, but I wouldn't judge other peoples' games by those roles because I twist them to be different.
So what? Do any of your arguments have any relevance when weighed against reality? You posted "Have you ever heard of a loved player that was not townie?" Were you really expecting me to not give you a direct example of just that to disprove your argument? As long as it's possible, your argument has no merit. The second part of the post I quoted doesn't even make any sense and is in fact CONTRADICTORY to the position you held earlier, i.e. "Have you ever heard of a loved player that was not townie?" Which is it, Liberty? Is this game unconventional or conventional? You can't have it both ways.


Here is me summing up another instance of you trying to wriggle out of my crushing grip of reason.


OMG! Look, I can quote too!
author=Liberty
A game can stick close to flavour yet keep conventional roles. Or vice versa.
That said, in that post where you were pointing out how I was still meta-ing (which you've also done by referring to different games of the past) I was pointing out that there are characters that would fill the roles. I wasn't pointing fingers or saying that someone was such and such character, just pointing that out.
CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK
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How would you know I wouldn't get night killed unless you're mafia and deliberately holding off to make someone look suspicious?


This is what I'm talking about when I say deliberately misrepresenting people. Does anyone in their right mind think that Liberty would get killed at night if she was town, considering how big the target on her is right now? Oh, but no. I couldn't be using basic logic. I must be mafia to point that you.

Also, does anyone notice that she does not have a scum bandwagon on her? I'm noticing it.

I've already pointed out my power and it's easy to prove - already offered to prove it too, but no takers. You're the only one who's pushed to disprove it as a positive and only have one - ONE - example of it not being a town move.


Haha, what the hell. So, you're not going to vote for yourself but are ALSO going to chastise others for not going along with a plan that consists of voting for you? How are you not dead? I only need one example of it not being proof of anything because what's what "disproving" something means.

I actually want to kill you because you're scum, as I have painstakingly laid out for anyone who has eyes, but thank you for summing up the goal of the scumteam "kill town" in two paragraphs in an attempt to make it look as if you are producing a rebuttal of some kind.