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CloseIs there some way to filter the Mafia posts out of the latest post feed? The enormous volume of them makes it very difficult to find updates in legitimate threads.
http://rpgmaker.net/posts/
And no, there currently is not a way to filter out any posts. It's a site-wide feed.
And no, there currently is not a way to filter out any posts. It's a site-wide feed.
TheNecromancer
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haha I brought this up in the main Mafia discussion thread. They don't really care that they are spamming and ruining the Latest Posts. Sometimes it's a full page of Mafia posts followed by an almost full page of Mafia posts, it's crazy. You can only look back at the last 13 hours of posts now, it used to go back at least 2 days. The current Mafia thread got 29 pages in like 1 fucking day. There's so many posts that the Mafia players can't even keep up.
Someone bring in the real Mafia to "fix" this little problem >3 It's getting out of hand.
Someone bring in the real Mafia to "fix" this little problem >3 It's getting out of hand.
author=Shinan
If it was possible to filter out the whole of Moronic I wouldn't mind one bit.
This is probably the optimal solution.
They don't really care that they are spamming and ruining the Latest Posts.
This is not an issue with people who play mafia being a secret cabal dedicated to bringing rmn to its knees. It's an issue with the way the site is designed.
I don't know why the latest post feed shows each individual post. Every single type of latest posts feed I've seen on other sites only has a list of threads that have recently been posted in, not a list of each post made. It's completely superfluous to have a list of each individual post because when you see that a thread you're interested in has been updated, logically you're going to read from the point you last stopped reading it at.
TheNecromancer
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author=CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK
This is not an issue with people who play mafia being a secret cabal dedicated to bringing rmn to its knees. It's an issue with the way the site is designed.
I didn't say that, at all. I don't think you could even if you tried heh ;P
Speaking of how the site is designed - I'm pretty sure it was designed for amateur game makers using game pages and not for the forums/forum games. I don't see why the site should be redesigned in any way to accommodate people who wish to use it for something that it wasn't designed for that interferes with the intended use. The optimal solution is for these mafia games to take place somewhere else.
Here's a good one:
http://forum.mafiascum.net/
A little corner of the internet that was designed for mafia games. Xanadu.
I don't know why the latest post feed shows each individual post. Every single type of latest posts feed I've seen on other sites only has a list of threads that have recently been posted in, not a list of each post made. It's completely superfluous to have a list of each individual post because when you see that a thread you're interested in has been updated, logically you're going to read from the point you last stopped reading it at.
You seem to think the main function of this site is the forums. This isn't a forum and it doesn't/shouldn't behave like one. The latest post feed was great the way it was until it got clogged with junk.
???? It doesn't matter if it's a forum or not. Whether you're talking about images or gamepages, the principle is exactly the same: If you're following a page and want to see posts made on it, you don't need to see how often something is being updated, only that it has been updated. That only adds to the clutter no matter what people are commenting on. The fact that this site isn't centered around its forums has zero to do with this because the latest post feature is a part of the forums and thus the forums should be taken into account with regards to its design.
The description of the welp welp forum says that it is used to conduct forum games. How is anyone using it in a manner that it was not designed for?
The description of the welp welp forum says that it is used to conduct forum games. How is anyone using it in a manner that it was not designed for?
Is use of a post feed really necessary? Couldn't you just navigate to the topics/blogs/games/reviews that interest you?
I never realised there was a post feed and still don't see the need for it in all honesty.
I never realised there was a post feed and still don't see the need for it in all honesty.
I really enjoy the post thread and do recognize (though I am a mafia player) that the mafia games posts are really invading that thread while the site is a game makers site, but not only mafia games, all kind of games and it seems to be a trend theses days. I suppose it's also a bit like irc except that irc is not on the site. What to do about it, since kentona seems to say there is no way to filter posts? In any case not cast out those games.
TheNecromancer
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author=CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK
because the latest post feature is a part of the forums and thus the forums should be taken into account with regards to its design.
The Latest Posts section is not part of the forums. The forums are included in Latest Posts.
It's basically an RSS feed, formatted like a forum section list.
You can't click on forums then browse to Latest Posts.
As far as "intended use", RMN is a place for uploading and downloading and discussing indie games. Anything else is beyond intended use, imo.
IMO.
blah blah blah
Did I mention IMO?
It doesn't mean you can't, but in cases like this you probably shouldn't. The forums, along with events, help form the whole community aspect of RMN. The site wouldn't be the same without them. There is a still a basic premise(or at least I assume there is) that the forums are there to promote the aim of the website; i.e game making. To come to RMN and do something as excessive as the mafia games lately boggles my mind. Come to RMN for gaming and go to a mafia website for mafia.
Seems pretty straightforward to me.
Even though most people don't use it or want to now that they know it exists, it serves a great purpose for those that do. It's the pulse of RMN. It's not just a measure of what forums topics are getting lots of attention. It's a direct feed of data showing what games, screens, media, blogs, are getting attention. If it's filtering data to only show something once and, I would assume, not showing who posted it then that takes away it's usefulness. Sometimes I'll click on something because of who posted it. Or maybe I'm following a thread and only want to see if a certain person posted in there.
Even if it's "not a big deal" that the Latest Posts section is full of mafia crap, there is a reason to either stop playing mafia so much or move it to an appropriate place.
The amount of mafia posts, which take the place of other game related posts, is interfering with the content most of us come here for. There have been other things that got lots of attention but nothing at the same magnitude as these mafia games. It's not that you're playing mafia, it's how much you're playing. When one game ends the next begins and there seems to be multiple threads being posted in at the same time.
author=Yellow Magic
Couldn't you just navigate to the topics/blogs/games/reviews that interest you?
And that I do.
The Latest Posts section has never been about going to things that interest me, it's about seeing where the discussion is.
I never realised there was a post feed and still don't see the need for it in all honesty.
Should that be justification to ignore the concerns of those that do?
It's not a need, it's a tool that some choose to use to make "being a part of the community" much easier. I don't need to browse all over the place to be a part of the current discussion, where ever it might be taking place, should I choose to take part. Lurking can be considered taking part to some :P
If you browse the Latest Posts section every day or two, along with checking out the frontpage, you can be in the loop on everything that goes on. I don't like spending more time online than I need to, I'm too busy actually making games and going to other places to do other things :3
Guys, guys, guys. Why is this even an issue? Please, stop with the heated discussion! Keep your replies in one line. lolololol
I think everybody already does this (at least I know I do) but the latest post section is still a very useful tool to know what's going on the site at any given time, (and it happens to be my bookmark xP) so it's unfortunate to see page after page of mafia posts.
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If there were a way to make mafia thread post not appear on the feed it'd be great. (Filtering out the word 'mafia' maybe? I have no idea how these things works) ...If the content of an entire forum were to be omitted, I think I'd prefer the Mafia people having their own sub-forum than seeing the entirety ofMoronic Welp being excluded; There's a good handful of topics in there, such as the "What are you thinking about now" or "What are you jamming to" that are nice to keep track of...
But still, the point stands that this is not a site aimed at forum games, so how about just excercising some restraint? Currently, and if I'm not mistaken, Mafia threads are running one after another... How about one every Month instead? Every two weeks? Only on weekends? You know, so there's enough breathing room between them.
author=Yellow Magic
Is use of a post feed really necessary? Couldn't you just navigate to the topics/blogs/games/reviews that interest you?
I never realised there was a post feed and still don't see the need for it in all honesty.
I think everybody already does this (at least I know I do) but the latest post section is still a very useful tool to know what's going on the site at any given time, (and it happens to be my bookmark xP) so it's unfortunate to see page after page of mafia posts.
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If there were a way to make mafia thread post not appear on the feed it'd be great. (Filtering out the word 'mafia' maybe? I have no idea how these things works) ...If the content of an entire forum were to be omitted, I think I'd prefer the Mafia people having their own sub-forum than seeing the entirety of
But still, the point stands that this is not a site aimed at forum games, so how about just excercising some restraint? Currently, and if I'm not mistaken, Mafia threads are running one after another... How about one every Month instead? Every two weeks? Only on weekends? You know, so there's enough breathing room between them.
I'm getting an anti-Heartache 101 kind of feel from this thread. Like, if the mafia threads were gamepages, they'd generate humongous amounts of buzz. They also share a common link, though I might be over-reacting, or over-reaching, on that point.
If I'm coming off as attacking, it's not my intention. I want to find a peaceable solution!
If I'm coming off as attacking, it's not my intention. I want to find a peaceable solution!
TheNecromancer
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author=Marrend
I'm getting an anti-Heartache 101 kind of feel from this thread.
I don't see it. The word mafia is in every paragraph.
It's not like we're deliberately intruding, you know. Playing the game encourages talk - just like any other forum game encourages interaction. Hell, even the FF Forum game has a lot of posts now and then.
I don't see what the issue is. So there are a lot of posts in one topic. It happens in other discussion topics too.
I don't see what the issue is. So there are a lot of posts in one topic. It happens in other discussion topics too.
"Welp, Welp!"
"This forum is to discuss less serious issues, post memes, or to conduct forum games. Slightly classier than moronic. Slightly."
Also most of people who play those forum games are also amateur designers that have our game pages and blogs, some of them even quality ones.
I don't think it's cool people forcing others to "use the site in the intended way" (although that's just my opinion).
I thought the intended goal of this site was to funcion as a "community" of amateur game designers to engage in all manners of debate, discussions and interaction, and forum games are just a way of bonding, relaxing and having fun in the midst of our game making.
First it was "crappy blogs" now "forum mafia" next it will be no "General Discussion", then "No Forum Posts only quality games".
If the mafia posts could be filtered, that'd be awesome I'd guess, but I am worried that this site is getting more and more elitist.
Shouldn't we all relax a little a bit and stop trying to "purge the unclean and imperfect content of this sacrosanct developing-only haven" and focus more on having fun with each other? Fun is good for inspiration and creativity.
I'm just saying.
"This forum is to discuss less serious issues, post memes, or to conduct forum games. Slightly classier than moronic. Slightly."
Also most of people who play those forum games are also amateur designers that have our game pages and blogs, some of them even quality ones.
I don't think it's cool people forcing others to "use the site in the intended way" (although that's just my opinion).
I thought the intended goal of this site was to funcion as a "community" of amateur game designers to engage in all manners of debate, discussions and interaction, and forum games are just a way of bonding, relaxing and having fun in the midst of our game making.
First it was "crappy blogs" now "forum mafia" next it will be no "General Discussion", then "No Forum Posts only quality games".
If the mafia posts could be filtered, that'd be awesome I'd guess, but I am worried that this site is getting more and more elitist.
Shouldn't we all relax a little a bit and stop trying to "purge the unclean and imperfect content of this sacrosanct developing-only haven" and focus more on having fun with each other? Fun is good for inspiration and creativity.
I'm just saying.
author=rabitZ
I am worried that this site is getting more and more elitist.
It's not the site at large, just a few very vocal users that not a lot of people are fond of.
author=KarsumanYeah. Okay.
Pretty much exactly my point. Even if you were to ban forum mafia games, which I think is a discussion for some people who don't have obvious biases like link and I, this could still be designed better.
The avatar/post combination really makes it, Karsu.
As rabitz said, it'd be nice if it were able to exclude the moronic from the site feed but seems it's not possible at this time. And why should we have to take forum games off site? Why shouldn't we have somewhere that we can chill with each other, bond a bit, learn more about each other and not have to discuss games all the time (though at times still reference them if we want) while letting down our hair and being a bit silly?
We can't all be gme, game, amge, all the time, you know.
As rabitz said, it'd be nice if it were able to exclude the moronic from the site feed but seems it's not possible at this time. And why should we have to take forum games off site? Why shouldn't we have somewhere that we can chill with each other, bond a bit, learn more about each other and not have to discuss games all the time (though at times still reference them if we want) while letting down our hair and being a bit silly?
We can't all be gme, game, amge, all the time, you know.
