RMN'S FANTASY VANILLA MAFIA (GAME THREAD)

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chana
(Socrates would certainly not contadict me!)
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What I wrote above means : yes, I got that, ok.
Oki, so I'm here for a sec.
Let's see... Adon looks a bit suspicious with his wording.
I'd like to know why you're so wound up over chana, Cave.
I think the numbers are closer to 3 mafia, 2/3 indy and the rest town, since 4 mafia would be a bit much. That would leave us with, atm, 3 mafia, 1-2 indy and the rest town.

I think that covers everything I was thinking for the moment. I'll be back later.
chana
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see page 1 :4 mafia
Oh. Well, damn. >.<;
That's a bit not very fair.
rabitZ
amusing tassadar, your taste in companionship grows ever more inexplicable
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Day 2 Current Vote Count:

Gourd_Clae (1) --- CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK, Jeroen_Sol, CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK
CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK (1) --- Despite
Yellow Magic (1) --- CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK, Liberty
Adon237 (1) --- CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK, CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK

Liberty (0) --- CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK, Yellow Magic
chana: (0) --- ivoryjones, CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK
Jeroen_Sol (0) --- CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.
There are still about 27 hours until the Day 2 deadline (Thursday at 11:59PM GMT-4).

Why Liberty? I researched a lot of setups and 4 mafia in 15 player games it's not that unbalanced IMO. We shall see how it turns out.
chana
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yup, especially how lost we are as who those mafia are
chana
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alright, how about everyone say who theyu think are mafia, as for me' :
Yellow Magic, CAVE_DOG, Adon, but with no certainty AT ALL.
chana
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no one's interested in playing..?
Meh, this is just a hunch lynch but more like wanting to get this day over and done with:

#lynch Despite

Probably going to get modkilled anyway, but hey.
Despite
When the going gets tough, go fuck yourself.
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The mafia are scared of me, they know I am right.

I stick by lynching cave. The whole "modkill or lynch the day away" arguments are just too suspicious. trying to get rid of me quietly eh?
CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK
On sunny days, I go out walking
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author=Adon237
You were acting scummy by lynching so many people with little fact. How does that make me scum for pointing that out? I mean how many times have you switch lynched in the last two pages? Acting scummy are being scummy are two different things.

If we were all wrong lynching mirror, then Cave's accusations should be accurate.


If I am acting scummy, then, from your viewpoint as a townie, I logically SHOULD be scum. You are simultaneously saying that I am scum while trying to buddy up to me and say that I am town. Not only this, but voting for lots of people is not a scumtell. I said this earlier and asked you to explain how it could, in any way, point to someone being mafia, and you have not done so.
chana
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uh, TBG, Despite might just be the doctor, NOT a good idea!
CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK
On sunny days, I go out walking
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author=thatbennyguy
Meh, this is just a hunch lynch but more like wanting to get this day over and done with:

#lynch Despite

Probably going to get modkilled anyway, but hey.


This is awful. Lynching is the only reliable weapon town has at this point. Put your vote on someone useful. and by that I mean Adon.

The mafia are scared of me, they know I am right.

I stick by lynching cave. The whole "modkill or lynch the day away" arguments are just too suspicious. trying to get rid of me quietly eh?


also awful. absolutely nobody is scared of you because you have had no impact on the course of this game and never will. I don't even know what "modkill or lynch the day away" even means.
CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK
On sunny days, I go out walking
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author=Liberty
I'd like to know why you're so wound up over chana, Cave.



Mostly the way she framed that "mirrormasq's alignment will shed light on Cave's" post and then said that mirrormasq flipping town must make me scum later. It looks to me like that post was intentionally made to be ambiguous so that, no matter what, Chana could declare me scum later. Mirrormasq flips scum? Obviously Cavedog was his scumbuddy and that's why he tried to stop the lynch. Mirrormasq flips town? Obviously Cavedog tried to stop that lynch to get suspicion drawn off of himself! Chana has not responded to this assertion. probably because she knows I'm on target.
chana
(Socrates would certainly not contadict me!)
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Actually, you summed it up perfectly, too perfectly?
CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK
On sunny days, I go out walking
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ADON: A CASE STUDY. I KNOW IT'S LONG BUT READ IT IF YOU ARE TOWN

#lynch Chana
Just a starter lynch.


Here we have a very self-conscious post. This is on the first page of the thread. It would seem obvious that Adon's vote was not entirely 'serious,' since, you know, Chana had not posted yet, but he still felt the need to qualify it with 'just a starter lynch.' because he was very worried about people jumping on him, perhaps? It is notable that Adon never responded to anyone's assertions that this post was self-conscious and scummy. Indeed, he tried to play buddy buddy with the one person pushing him the hardest: me

Well anyway, I do not believe that Cave is scum, or at least not yet, in spite of his posts which really aren't to convincing either way, I think we should lay off him. For now. I have suspicions of tbg or shinan. Not sure which.


What would his motive for doing this be? An ill-conceived attempt to get me to not suspect him. Adon also says that he has suspicions of tbg or shinan, but he's not sure which one. Why is he not sure? Why not both of them, in any case, since there are multiple scum in this game? Adon is very wishy-washy here, unwilling to place suspicion on any one person. He continues this trend later:

So Jeroen, what are your thoughts so far?

Marrend you have not said much...


Here, he just asks for people's opinions. It's all fine and dandy to try and draw opinions from the crowd, but Adon had given none of his own at this point! An attempt to appear to be 'in the game' without contributing anything.

Why do you think that MM is scum? I mean he doesn't SEEM scummy.


Here Adon states that MM does not seem scummy to him at all. Would you like to see the second time he talks about Mirrormasq?

I too wonder what was up with MM's eagerness to lynch him. Maybe he is scum?


A weak assertion that "someone" (who? MM?) is scum for wanting to lynch someone else. Indeed, all town must be scum by such logic. Would you like to see the THIRD time he mentions Mirrormasq?

#cancel
#lynch MM
I have been convinced for now.


Amazing. "I have been convinced for now." By what, exactly, Adon never mentions, probably because he was never actually convinced that Mirrormasq was scum at all, if you catch my drift. Regardless, Adon hops on the tailend of the Mirrormasq bandwagon, saying that he has been convinced for now. This implies that he could be convinced otherwise.

I kinda still think that Mirror is scummy. Though YM is definitely an alternative lynch.


But apparently not. Adon only "kind of" thinks that mirrormasq is scummy in this post, but is still voting for him. But Yellow Magic could be an alternative lynch. Why? For what reasons? There are none, because Adon was never interested in hopping off the Mirrormasq bandwagon. Let's go back in time.

wait are you guys like admitting your what what what stop

yeah i am going to say it is a joke because nobody would ever announce themselves as mafia, unless they are scewing with us and actually are mafia but ohh god


Here, Adon pretends that he is getting his mindfucked. I don't think I should need to point out why this is insincere since the thing he was responding to was just someone saying "yo I'm mafia this game." Why would you freak out like this over that?

So anyway, Cave, lynching people all over the place the whole game doesn't really make anybody side with you, and you look very scummy. Of course there is the possibility that you are so used to being scum that being a townie isn't really your thing. Regardless, I have not been convinced of anybody being mafia, but there are still mafia among us!


Here, Adon calls me scummy for voting a bunch of people. He has yet to explain how this is exactly behavior a mafioso would display, but I digress. Regardless of apparently looking very scummy to him, somehow, in his eyes, I am still not scum. If he was town, why would a person that was acting scummy not appear to be scum to him? He states, right here, that I am VERY SCUMMY. remember this important fact for two seconds.

Chana, there is no way that Cave is scum, an indie maybe, possibly a town. But I assume chears killed shinan.

EVEN THOUGH I AM VERY SCUMMY, THERE IS NO WAY THAT I AM SCUM. This is, without a doubt, the single most damning thing anyone in this thread has said. Which begs the question: Why would Adon post this? Simple, he wanted to get me on his side. After all, I have been the person pushing him the most.

You were acting scummy by lynching so many people with little fact. How does that make me scum for pointing that out? I mean how many times have you switch lynched in the last two pages? Acting scummy are being scummy are two different things.

If we were all wrong lynching mirror, then Cave's accusations should be accurate.


Here, Adon attempts to mischaracterize my arguments. I did not say that he was scummy for calling me scummy for voting a bunch of people. I said he was scummy for calling me scummy AND insisting that I could not possibly be scum in the same breath. Acting scummy and being scum are literally two different things, but they are inherently connected. Acting scummy is something scum naturally do. To paint it any other way is a lie, so if I am acting scummy, I should be scum to him. But I'm not. Because he is. Thanks for reading lynch him now.
CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK
On sunny days, I go out walking
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author=chana
Actually, you summed it up perfectly, too perfectly?


also is this a CONFESSION
rabitZ
amusing tassadar, your taste in companionship grows ever more inexplicable
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Day 2 Current Vote Count:

Gourd_Clae (1) --- CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK, Jeroen_Sol, CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK
CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK (1) --- Despite
Yellow Magic (1) --- CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK, Liberty
Adon237 (1) --- CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK, CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK
Despite (1) --- thatbennyguy

Liberty (0) --- CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK, Yellow Magic
chana: (0) --- ivoryjones, CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK
Jeroen_Sol (0) --- CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.
There are still about 24 hours until the Day 2 deadline (Thursday at 11:59PM GMT-4).

OK, I'm going to sleep guys!
chana
(Socrates would certainly not contadict me!)
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I quite agree with your analysis of Adon's posts which I had done myself in a very similar way : TBG or(?!) Shinan, MM being certainly innocent and scum 2 posts later, scum but not scum.
As for my reply it is not a confession in that : your post describes exactly my thoughts but there was nothing "made to be ambiguous" in any posts of mine, just that my conviction of your being mafia was at the core of my reflexions, so, in fact, if I presumed that MM was innocent, I thought you might be backing out to appear innocent yourself and if I presumed he was scum, I imagined you could be playing a game between the two of you.

chana
(Socrates would certainly not contadict me!)
1584
And, right :
#Lynch Adon237