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CloseThis is creepy but the simplest solution would seem to be: try and get proof of it and call the police.
Unless we're talking about police doing this?
Unless we're talking about police doing this?
Dyhalto
7536
obs, I'm not sure what you're talking about now. At first I thought this was about a gang of people who target someone for psychological tormenting, but then you brought up the Batman Shooting guy.
If you want to make people concerned with gang stalking then you'll have to make a proper case for it. None of us have time to watch 30 minutes of unrelated youtube videos on a subject we're skeptical of. Thesis, proof, conclusion.
If you want to make people concerned with gang stalking then you'll have to make a proper case for it. None of us have time to watch 30 minutes of unrelated youtube videos on a subject we're skeptical of. Thesis, proof, conclusion.
obsorber
50
What I am talking about is people need to be aware of it. To spread the info and research it. It's a major problem and people think they really know what's happening yet they don't research it. People contribute to Organized Gang-Stalking without even knowing it. Before you know it, there's a person getting victimized by dozens of people due to lies, slander campaigns and the like.
In the future if you ever wake up in a world where you could be harassed for standing up for yourself, for your beliefs, or making the wrong enemy, for being somewhere and witnessing something at the wrong time then well that's too bad. It's a coward program which is engaged in almost every walk of the targets life especially the police. The Police according to so many victims I have found which I am using YouTube to get out their stories largely play roles in the gang-stalking and also ignore it. So many Targets have filed complaints about it and the next day people come to their doors. It's something people need to research rather than ignore. The goal of this thread was to spread awareness and before something major happens. That way I would have felt that at least I didn't stand and do zilch when crap hits the fan. It's not to say I told you so in the future but case that people deserve the truth before things get out of hand.
In the future if you ever wake up in a world where you could be harassed for standing up for yourself, for your beliefs, or making the wrong enemy, for being somewhere and witnessing something at the wrong time then well that's too bad. It's a coward program which is engaged in almost every walk of the targets life especially the police. The Police according to so many victims I have found which I am using YouTube to get out their stories largely play roles in the gang-stalking and also ignore it. So many Targets have filed complaints about it and the next day people come to their doors. It's something people need to research rather than ignore. The goal of this thread was to spread awareness and before something major happens. That way I would have felt that at least I didn't stand and do zilch when crap hits the fan. It's not to say I told you so in the future but case that people deserve the truth before things get out of hand.
obsorber
50
What I am talking about is people need to be aware of it. To spread the info and research it. It's a major problem and people think they really know what's happening yet they don't research it. People contribute to Organized Gang-Stalking without even knowing it. Before you know it, there's a person getting victimized by dozens of people due to lies, slander campaigns and the like.
In the future if you ever wake up in a world where you could be harassed for standing up for yourself, for your beliefs, or making the wrong enemy, for being somewhere and witnessing something at the wrong time then well that's too bad. It's a coward program which is engaged in almost every walk of the targets life especially the police. The Police according to so many victims I have found which I am using YouTube to get out their stories largely play roles in the gang-stalking and also ignore it. So many Targets have filed complaints about it and the next day people come to their doors. It's something people need to research rather than ignore. The goal of this thread was to spread awareness and before something major happens. That way I would have felt that at least I didn't stand and do zilch when crap hits the fan. It's not to say I told you so in the future but case that people deserve the truth before things get out of hand.
In the future if you ever wake up in a world where you could be harassed for standing up for yourself, for your beliefs, or making the wrong enemy, for being somewhere and witnessing something at the wrong time then well that's too bad. It's a coward program which is engaged in almost every walk of the targets life especially the police. The Police according to so many victims I have found which I am using YouTube to get out their stories largely play roles in the gang-stalking and also ignore it. So many Targets have filed complaints about it and the next day people come to their doors. It's something people need to research rather than ignore. The goal of this thread was to spread awareness and before something major happens. That way I would have felt that at least I didn't stand and do zilch when crap hits the fan. It's not to say I told you so in the future but case that people deserve the truth before things get out of hand.
LockeZ
I'd really like to get rid of LockeZ. His play style is way too unpredictable. He's always like this too. If he ran a country, he'd just kill and imprison people at random until crime stopped.
5958
When you start talking about one conspiracy theory and then by the end of the conversation you've linked fifteen other conspiracy theories to it, that is a bad sign for your sanity. You're not even talking about the same thing any more. Shit, you're not talking about any specific thing at all. Your comments amount to "People do things! Some of them do things that involve talking to or mentioning other people! They disagree with each-other about issues, and say so! Or don't say so! OH GOD SOME OF THEM DO THE SAME THINGS AS EACH-OTHER! CIVILIZATION IS ENDINGWHARRGARBLJKJSDFGHSD"
obsorber
50
Conspiracy? A simple fact that there are things going on behind the scenes that people cannot ever explain where there are more questions than answers and everyone goes along with it. What conspiracy by end of 15 other conspiracy exactly?
I never went into over complicated explanation cause I knew you couldn't handle it. I explained small explanations and your going on about 15 things?
I'm talking about the methods that are used to start slander campaigns and get people involved in organized harassment networks. The YouTube videos clearly show how it is done, victims of it and the methods that are used. You explain that it doesn't happen and you go on about insanity. I'm not even referring to insanity so why are you. I'm just stating facts and whether you believe them it's up to you. I use the YouTube Videos to prove what's happening and that's left up to you to accept those facts.
-I am talking about Organised Gang Stalking
-9/11 to me was a hoax, false flag attack but I'm not even going there.
-Gang Stalking, when crazy people stalk individuals and harass and victimize them. So many of them are coming out right now, can you explain to me why? If you're going to use the close minded answer schizophrenia then I will be disappointed. Why? Because it shows closed minded people who ignore what could really be happening rather than look into it. And such close minded types are the ones that even resort to harassing targets too. Because they are so closed minded they don't question authority or what it is they are even doing as in the case of the previous video which elaborates this. Why is it when something happens that's odd no one wants to question it's validity and the sense of it all. They always jump the wagon to conspiracy nut, jeeez... They even start victimizing the person who brought the questions to light, not even stated that they were completely true but there was something not right? Everyone has the right to ask questions even if its against authority. It is only then you can build on knowledge.
100's of years ago, theorists suggested the earth was round not with an edge or end. Many of them were deemed nuts, some as blasphemers and were even probably outcast-ed and murdered for this knowledge. However, in later years it was proved that the world was round and now these supposed people who asked questions were right all along. What aggravates me is that they are gone now and were victimized for it even though they spoke the truth and sought to spread their knowledge not keeping it for themselves to enslave the masses. I think people are naturally afraid of what's outside the box. They tend to be very close minded and live in a bubble their whole lives. When new ideologies are found by people who step out of the box, they often get ridiculed and at least for a long time before someone in power allows them to be permitted or builds upon their knowledge.
(Karl Marx was hated and rejected by many countries before he finally published his works. His work which had it's own ideological understanding.)
I am not going to lie to you, I think Gang Stalking is connected to other conspiracies though. They largely seem to target specific people. These people tend to be whistle-blowers, loners, those that assert their rights over corporations, activists even. You're telling me it doesn't happen or that people who talk about it are insane? Just see the case of this dude Scott Crow's story. He has documents to prove his case. He is an environmental activist which why he was targeted.
Conspiracy Ties in with
-Corrupt Police Officers
-Corrupt FBI/Law Enforcement
-Corrupt Communities GangStalking
-Investigations Filed on People For Years Without Their Knowledge
-Slander Campaigns to Discredit and Isolate the Target
They seem to go after specific people but it can happen to anyone especially those who know what's happening in the system already and don't like it. There are many targets like this man. Unfortunately they aren't all quite as smart as him to do investigation. Some are to scared to stand up for themselves, some have probably committed suicide and some have ended up in Prisons or Asylums.
Also the annoying mocking dialogue of my asking questions doesn't really offend me or make me feel insane. It just reminds me how you seem quite close minded yourself.
I never went into over complicated explanation cause I knew you couldn't handle it. I explained small explanations and your going on about 15 things?
I'm talking about the methods that are used to start slander campaigns and get people involved in organized harassment networks. The YouTube videos clearly show how it is done, victims of it and the methods that are used. You explain that it doesn't happen and you go on about insanity. I'm not even referring to insanity so why are you. I'm just stating facts and whether you believe them it's up to you. I use the YouTube Videos to prove what's happening and that's left up to you to accept those facts.
-I am talking about Organised Gang Stalking
-9/11 to me was a hoax, false flag attack but I'm not even going there.
-Gang Stalking, when crazy people stalk individuals and harass and victimize them. So many of them are coming out right now, can you explain to me why? If you're going to use the close minded answer schizophrenia then I will be disappointed. Why? Because it shows closed minded people who ignore what could really be happening rather than look into it. And such close minded types are the ones that even resort to harassing targets too. Because they are so closed minded they don't question authority or what it is they are even doing as in the case of the previous video which elaborates this. Why is it when something happens that's odd no one wants to question it's validity and the sense of it all. They always jump the wagon to conspiracy nut, jeeez... They even start victimizing the person who brought the questions to light, not even stated that they were completely true but there was something not right? Everyone has the right to ask questions even if its against authority. It is only then you can build on knowledge.
100's of years ago, theorists suggested the earth was round not with an edge or end. Many of them were deemed nuts, some as blasphemers and were even probably outcast-ed and murdered for this knowledge. However, in later years it was proved that the world was round and now these supposed people who asked questions were right all along. What aggravates me is that they are gone now and were victimized for it even though they spoke the truth and sought to spread their knowledge not keeping it for themselves to enslave the masses. I think people are naturally afraid of what's outside the box. They tend to be very close minded and live in a bubble their whole lives. When new ideologies are found by people who step out of the box, they often get ridiculed and at least for a long time before someone in power allows them to be permitted or builds upon their knowledge.
(Karl Marx was hated and rejected by many countries before he finally published his works. His work which had it's own ideological understanding.)
I am not going to lie to you, I think Gang Stalking is connected to other conspiracies though. They largely seem to target specific people. These people tend to be whistle-blowers, loners, those that assert their rights over corporations, activists even. You're telling me it doesn't happen or that people who talk about it are insane? Just see the case of this dude Scott Crow's story. He has documents to prove his case. He is an environmental activist which why he was targeted.
Conspiracy Ties in with
-Corrupt Police Officers
-Corrupt FBI/Law Enforcement
-Corrupt Communities GangStalking
-Investigations Filed on People For Years Without Their Knowledge
-Slander Campaigns to Discredit and Isolate the Target
They seem to go after specific people but it can happen to anyone especially those who know what's happening in the system already and don't like it. There are many targets like this man. Unfortunately they aren't all quite as smart as him to do investigation. Some are to scared to stand up for themselves, some have probably committed suicide and some have ended up in Prisons or Asylums.
Also the annoying mocking dialogue of my asking questions doesn't really offend me or make me feel insane. It just reminds me how you seem quite close minded yourself.
People figured out the world was round through observable phenomena. It's a bad comparison to social sciences, or whatever this is.
Any who, what are we supposed to be doing here? No one thinks stalking is particularly legal. And we're aware that groups of people harass others. What sort of response are you looking for? There's little to discuss.
Any who, what are we supposed to be doing here? No one thinks stalking is particularly legal. And we're aware that groups of people harass others. What sort of response are you looking for? There's little to discuss.
I can't fathom a situation where I could accidentally contribute to stalking someone, besides maybe if a gang came to my house and asked where someone else lived, and I don't see myself actively stalking someone unless he, idk, murdered a family member of mine or something.
So yea...
So yea...
obsorber, your ideas are irrational and idiotic. You have no credible evidence and associate yourself with loons.
Crystalgate
694
author=obsorber
100's of years ago, theorists suggested the earth was round not with an edge or end. Many of them were deemed nuts, some as blasphemers and were even probably outcast-ed and murdered for this knowledge. However, in later years it was proved that the world was round and now these supposed people who asked questions were right all along. What aggravates me is that they are gone now and were victimized for it even though they spoke the truth and sought to spread their knowledge not keeping it for themselves to enslave the masses. I think people are naturally afraid of what's outside the box. They tend to be very close minded and live in a bubble their whole lives. When new ideologies are found by people who step out of the box, they often get ridiculed and at least for a long time before someone in power allows them to be permitted or builds upon their knowledge.
10's of years ago, theorists suggested the earth was flat as opposed to round. Heck, I believe these guys even operate today.
Yes, it does happen that people are ridiculed for telling the truth, but it also happens that people are ridiculed for telling something that really is ridiculous. For every Galileo, there's at least dozens, if not hundreds, of nut-jobs like those at Flat Earth Society.
Just because people are ridiculed for telling he truth it doesn't mean that when someone is ridiculed, he must be telling the truth. It could also be so that he's ridiculed for telling something ridiculous. So, telling us that people are being ridiculed for telling the truth is pointless, what you need to tell us is why we should believe that what you are telling us is the truth and not just ridiculous. Unfortunately, that you even made this argument is a discredit to your cause.
We're two pages into this thread and still no one has posted a credible source. There's no point discussing something if there's no credible proof of its existence. We might as well discuss what we're going to do about the recent string of violent chupacabra attacks.
author=obsorber
Did you even watch Scott Crow's case or failed to realize it was even there?
Scott Crow wasn't a victim of gang stalking, but of conventional surveillance. Here's a tip: If you are in a radical political group with numerous police reports for trespassing and harassment along with at least a dozen arrests, you are going to be investigated. The investigation was dropped and declassified likely because he was determined not to be a terrorist, but just another idealistic radical who likes to camp out on his targets' rooftops and make a lot of noise.
author=obsorber
Did you even watch Scott Crow's case or failed to realize it was even there?
Can you give a credible source about it? Not a random Youtube video or conspiracy theorist website.
I don't really understand this, just google "gang stalking" and you'll find all the credible videos you want : ex-FBI agents, professors, victims, just any kind you want, I find.
author=chana
I don't really understand this, just google "gang stalking" and you'll find all the credible videos you want : ex-FBI agents, professors, victims, just any kind you want, I find.
And yet the only specific person you supplied was an actual insane person.
author=chana
I don't really understand this, just google "gang stalking" and you'll find all the credible videos you want : ex-FBI agents, professors, victims, just any kind you want, I find.
I don't want a video. I want a news article. A research paper. Something from a reliable source. If there are so many of them, why not supply a link?
Dyhalto
7536
obs, conspiracy theories make their claim to fame by taking facts from A, facts from C, and extrapolating B. You need to slow down and be more observant. We're not descending into nation-wide martial law tomorrow morning. You can afford some time to fact-check the details often accepted at face value.
<- Take it from someone whose waded through all that shit.
<- Take it from someone whose waded through all that shit.
author=Jude
And yet the only specific person you supplied was an actual insane person.
According to you.
@Sailerius : ok, the best I've found is this, but it's in French(...) :
http://conscience-vraie.info/harcelement-en-reseau.htm
