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CloseI'm "bandwagoning everything blindnessly"? I have reasons for bandwagoning on CAVE. I would state my reasons for wanting to lynch but YM already did that for me:
Now I have to go do stuff so see y'all later.
author=Yellow Magic
I'm honestly not sure why this is taking so long, guys. At worst, CAVE_DOG is a Werewolf. At best, he's a liability who hasn't been playing very well this game and
thus probably needs the double-vote taken away, as I don't think he originally planned to make his vote democratically.
Therefore, CAVE_DOG should, logically speaking, be our next lynch.
Now I have to go do stuff so see y'all later.
Liberty, Liberty, Liberty. Just because I made a bad decision one time means I am scum. I am a stupid townie, that's how it ALWAYS turn out. And when I realized Zeuzio was mafia, I used my powers to save the other target scum aimed for.
Why not say what my power is at this point, nobody but scum is making any use of theirs.(well maybe because only two or three townies have them?)
Why not say what my power is at this point, nobody but scum is making any use of theirs.(well maybe because only two or three townies have them?)
...Zeuzio wasn't mafia or werewolf so you were wrong. And it's not just that which is giving me a scum vibe. Your posts are a little too scummy to me and I think you're scum. There's only three people I'm sure aren't scum and one of 'em is dead. You aren't the other.
Condescending attitude doesn't help me think better of you, either. Nor does your using past games as justification for this one. As stated before, you can't judge one game from a couple of others.
In the case of Cave, my scum-dar when it comes to him usually is correct and I just don't get the scum vibe from him this time around. Is he playing silly? Yes. And that's not something a werewolf would do. If I had to peg him I'd say either he's vanilla town or has a power he's trying to hide. I'm leaning more towards vanilla since he's being hella more rash/active than one would expect someone who didn't want to be killed off to act. Unfortunately for you lot, I don't think stupidity - or at least, seeming stupidity - is a reason to lynch someone. Especially so early in the game.
Calm yo tits people.
Condescending attitude doesn't help me think better of you, either. Nor does your using past games as justification for this one. As stated before, you can't judge one game from a couple of others.
In the case of Cave, my scum-dar when it comes to him usually is correct and I just don't get the scum vibe from him this time around. Is he playing silly? Yes. And that's not something a werewolf would do. If I had to peg him I'd say either he's vanilla town or has a power he's trying to hide. I'm leaning more towards vanilla since he's being hella more rash/active than one would expect someone who didn't want to be killed off to act. Unfortunately for you lot, I don't think stupidity - or at least, seeming stupidity - is a reason to lynch someone. Especially so early in the game.
Calm yo tits people.
His poor defense is actually main reason I still hesitate about him being scum, you're right about that. Still. He's a freaking sheriff.
Actually, you are the one that needs to calm yourself. Not only did you misread my attitude, you are getting hyper-defensive over information you don't even know for sure. Your scum-dar seems pretty defective to me if you are lynching a townie. Actually, if you don't think Cave is scum, then your scum-dar is full on stupid because not only is there a high chance of him being scum, he led the lynch to townie and convinced others to to lynch that townie. If you think that is at an equal level as those who followed because they thought he was on to something, then you really shouldn't be playing any leader role in this game.
I do not think myself better, in fact, I am the worst player. Though I know for a fact I am an idiotic townie that has used up one of my two damn powers.
When I turn up town when I am lynched, everyone please lynch liberty. Well you might as well target me in the first place, because I am sure I am going to be targeted by scum anyway. Lynching me is only going to sink town further into its doom, and YOUR attitude is why townies always have a hard time winning. Thinking you know for sure what it is you are even talking about, and thinking you are good at judging everyone with your precious 'scumdar'.
So please, lynch me. I will take the suicide route like Zeuzio just so someone can feel they got somewhere. Killing townies is not how town wins if you are supposedly town.
I do not think myself better, in fact, I am the worst player. Though I know for a fact I am an idiotic townie that has used up one of my two damn powers.
When I turn up town when I am lynched, everyone please lynch liberty. Well you might as well target me in the first place, because I am sure I am going to be targeted by scum anyway. Lynching me is only going to sink town further into its doom, and YOUR attitude is why townies always have a hard time winning. Thinking you know for sure what it is you are even talking about, and thinking you are good at judging everyone with your precious 'scumdar'.
So please, lynch me. I will take the suicide route like Zeuzio just so someone can feel they got somewhere. Killing townies is not how town wins if you are supposedly town.
Jeroen_Sol
Nothing reveals Humanity so well as the games it plays. A game of betrayal, where the most suspicious person is brutally murdered? How savage.
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I'd post a votecount, but nothing has changed since 5 hours ago.
Day 2 ends 12:00 GMT Summer Time, July 12, that is in 45 hours.
Day 2 ends 12:00 GMT Summer Time, July 12, that is in 45 hours.
I'm humming and haing about hopping aboard the cavedog lynch again, but flipflopping will only hurt me right?
Screw it.
#cancel lynch
#lynch cavedog.
Screw it.
#cancel lynch
#lynch cavedog.
And because he led that lynch it's most likely that he's not a freakin' werewolf. Only an idiot would lead a fucking lynch on day one when they're a werewolf and draw attention to themselves. Jump on a bandwagon? Perhaps. Lead the mob? Not likely.
Methink, perhaps, you protest too much. You're going out of your way to declare over and over that you're town and we have no word but your own that this is so. You're freaking out over ONE vote. You need to calm yo tits.
My 'attitude' is what they call thinking. You have a brain, use it.
Chances of a werewolf playing the short game by actually putting themselves on the chopping block first day? Slim to none. It takes a certain kind of crazy to do such a think, and while Cave is certainly a kind of crazy, he's not quite that crazy, I believe.
No, scum are more likely to play it quiet and give gentle pushes from the background, especially at the start of a game. They don't tend to push hard for something to get done - more likely to be one of the middle voters than the last or first on first day. It draws too much attention to them and makes them too suspicious in the eyes of the public.
Like all great hunters say - put yourself in the prey's perspective. If you were werewolf would you push for a lynch on day 1 or stand on the sidelines, laughing at the stupid townies working themselves into a fervor.
Expand that thought - you're a part of a team. You want to spread out contact so that you don't seem to be allies. One votes for, the others don't. That way if one is caught, the others can say 'we didn't side with him/her!'.
If you're town you're certainly acting the stupid part.
Methink, perhaps, you protest too much. You're going out of your way to declare over and over that you're town and we have no word but your own that this is so. You're freaking out over ONE vote. You need to calm yo tits.
My 'attitude' is what they call thinking. You have a brain, use it.
Chances of a werewolf playing the short game by actually putting themselves on the chopping block first day? Slim to none. It takes a certain kind of crazy to do such a think, and while Cave is certainly a kind of crazy, he's not quite that crazy, I believe.
No, scum are more likely to play it quiet and give gentle pushes from the background, especially at the start of a game. They don't tend to push hard for something to get done - more likely to be one of the middle voters than the last or first on first day. It draws too much attention to them and makes them too suspicious in the eyes of the public.
Like all great hunters say - put yourself in the prey's perspective. If you were werewolf would you push for a lynch on day 1 or stand on the sidelines, laughing at the stupid townies working themselves into a fervor.
Expand that thought - you're a part of a team. You want to spread out contact so that you don't seem to be allies. One votes for, the others don't. That way if one is caught, the others can say 'we didn't side with him/her!'.
If you're town you're certainly acting the stupid part.
Insulting others intelligence when what you have done is equally useless shows that you have no other resorts to arguing then by using insults.
If you want to fucking lynch me Liberty, convince your scum to kill me already. Otherwise, stop babbling on with nonsense that will get nobody anywhere. Liberty, after all of this time playing with Cave, you think you would realize that he is intelligent and does make plans.
So how about you shut the hell up unless you have anything else that is beneficial to town.
You are over-thinking everything and jumping to all sorts of weird conspiracies and conclusions and very few are rallying by your side.
If you want to fucking lynch me Liberty, convince your scum to kill me already. Otherwise, stop babbling on with nonsense that will get nobody anywhere. Liberty, after all of this time playing with Cave, you think you would realize that he is intelligent and does make plans.
So how about you shut the hell up unless you have anything else that is beneficial to town.
You are over-thinking everything and jumping to all sorts of weird conspiracies and conclusions and very few are rallying by your side.
oh hey liberty, guess what you should be doing instead of hopping all over the place like a mexican jumping bean?
LYNCHING CAVE
or provide legitimate reasoning as to why you are not lynching him
and honestly your reasoning for lynching me is also kind of weird, i think you just saw a name and latched on to it like it was your only hope, even though there are plenty of better, more assuring and sensible solutions out there
no one knows a damn thing for sure, so you are going to have to take some risk instead of over-analyzing everything and sinking town further into hell.
LYNCHING CAVE
or provide legitimate reasoning as to why you are not lynching him
and honestly your reasoning for lynching me is also kind of weird, i think you just saw a name and latched on to it like it was your only hope, even though there are plenty of better, more assuring and sensible solutions out there
no one knows a damn thing for sure, so you are going to have to take some risk instead of over-analyzing everything and sinking town further into hell.
not to mention you are going to look like one scummy motherfucker when and if i turn up town
the only reason i am reacting this way is because once again i know more than you do believe it or not, and you are acting like your all-seeing wisdom and superior reasoning skills are the miracle we have all been waiting for.
and when the hell are people going to tell us of their powers? Day 2 and not a damn clue who our seer is.
the only reason i am reacting this way is because once again i know more than you do believe it or not, and you are acting like your all-seeing wisdom and superior reasoning skills are the miracle we have all been waiting for.
and when the hell are people going to tell us of their powers? Day 2 and not a damn clue who our seer is.
Wow. Just wow.
You really think Cave would out himself as a werewolf on DAY 01? Really? You think he'd go out of his way to look suspicious like he has if he was scum? Especially after you say he's intelligent and makes plans? I know he's smart and makes plans, that's what makes his being a werewolf heading a lynch on day one so unbelievable. He drew a fucking target on himself which is 1 - not like Cave and 2 - not something a scum would do if they had any intelligence at all.
I don't need to reiterate my points. You really are an idiot. And I for sure think you're scum, especially by how far you're going out of your way to attack at this point.
I could understand if you had more than a few votes on you but that you're getting so worked up over just one vote is totally suspicious. Why so upset if I have no-one listening to me? Unless I hit a nerve...
Your scum-buddies should tell you to calm down a bit, brah.
As for the idea that I'm scum - not likely. I already explained the scum wouldn't push themselves in the limelight like I did on day one and am doing now. I also have... well, that's nothing you need to know about at this moment in time, but let's just say there's no way I'm scum. ^.^
You really think Cave would out himself as a werewolf on DAY 01? Really? You think he'd go out of his way to look suspicious like he has if he was scum? Especially after you say he's intelligent and makes plans? I know he's smart and makes plans, that's what makes his being a werewolf heading a lynch on day one so unbelievable. He drew a fucking target on himself which is 1 - not like Cave and 2 - not something a scum would do if they had any intelligence at all.
I don't need to reiterate my points. You really are an idiot. And I for sure think you're scum, especially by how far you're going out of your way to attack at this point.
I could understand if you had more than a few votes on you but that you're getting so worked up over just one vote is totally suspicious. Why so upset if I have no-one listening to me? Unless I hit a nerve...
Your scum-buddies should tell you to calm down a bit, brah.
As for the idea that I'm scum - not likely. I already explained the scum wouldn't push themselves in the limelight like I did on day one and am doing now. I also have... well, that's nothing you need to know about at this moment in time, but let's just say there's no way I'm scum. ^.^
protip: it's day 2 :)
I think Cave is doing this just to draw attention away from himself. You are all now saying "oh he doesn't look so scummy anymore", but there is to be much laughter on my end if he turns out scum, and town loses a terrible loss because of that. So if it is not like Cave, are you suggesting someone just took over Cave's body and played a shits n' giggles mafia game?
Yes Liberty, I am an idiot. Everyone bow down to the lord Liberty, for her all-seeing eyes and infinite wisdom will guide town to victory. Do not question her strange plans and odd points, for that she will lynch you.
My nerve was hit when you would go as far as lynch somebody for simply following out of being trusting then to someone who led the damn lynch.
So Liberty, use your Seer powers to identify my role if you are so suspicious.
I am so sorry Liberty, I should have never questioned or challenged you, I should have blindly followed you like a sheep and I would be flawlessly led to victory. So convince the rest of town to lynch me then, because now I can't wait for death.
OH WAIT I AM SORRY
YOU HIT A NERVE BECAUSE I AM A WEREWOLF! I ADMIT IT!
I think Cave is doing this just to draw attention away from himself. You are all now saying "oh he doesn't look so scummy anymore", but there is to be much laughter on my end if he turns out scum, and town loses a terrible loss because of that. So if it is not like Cave, are you suggesting someone just took over Cave's body and played a shits n' giggles mafia game?
Yes Liberty, I am an idiot. Everyone bow down to the lord Liberty, for her all-seeing eyes and infinite wisdom will guide town to victory. Do not question her strange plans and odd points, for that she will lynch you.
My nerve was hit when you would go as far as lynch somebody for simply following out of being trusting then to someone who led the damn lynch.
So Liberty, use your Seer powers to identify my role if you are so suspicious.
I am so sorry Liberty, I should have never questioned or challenged you, I should have blindly followed you like a sheep and I would be flawlessly led to victory. So convince the rest of town to lynch me then, because now I can't wait for death.
OH WAIT I AM SORRY
YOU HIT A NERVE BECAUSE I AM A WEREWOLF! I ADMIT IT!
Oh yeah, forgot to mention. I am the Witch. I am the reason there wasn't a death besides Zeuzio night one. Scum targetted Mirror, and I saved him with my potion.
I don't really care about revealing this, I am desperately praying for my death anyway.
I don't really care about revealing this, I am desperately praying for my death anyway.
Reasons I don't think Cave is scum -
1) My Cave-dar is silent. Usually I can tell when he is scum. It's a gut feeling but it's enough for me.
2) He's acting like he usually does when he's town. That is, confrontational, pushing to lynch someone (seriously, he does this every game guys) and arguing with others. It's practically his staple.
3) He's not a fucking idiot. If he were scum he wouldn't be quite so devil-may-care. He likes playing as scum too much to chance getting lynched early on. He'd be defending like hell if he were scum, brow-beating you all into the ground.
4) He's not brow-beating or defensive - it's almost like he's bored. As in, he has a 'crap' role. As in no power.
5) Werewolves would not put themselves out there on first day by gunning for a lynch. They play the long game, even if there's a no-lynch on day 01, they know that they have time to pick off the others. A longer game helps town, but it helps scum too, since they get more night kills.
6) Werewolves wouldn't have elected themselves as sheriff. It draws attention to them. No, they'd have someone else elect them instead.
Not enough reasons? Well, those are mine so fuck off if you want more. I don't have to share your thoughts.
1) My Cave-dar is silent. Usually I can tell when he is scum. It's a gut feeling but it's enough for me.
2) He's acting like he usually does when he's town. That is, confrontational, pushing to lynch someone (seriously, he does this every game guys) and arguing with others. It's practically his staple.
3) He's not a fucking idiot. If he were scum he wouldn't be quite so devil-may-care. He likes playing as scum too much to chance getting lynched early on. He'd be defending like hell if he were scum, brow-beating you all into the ground.
4) He's not brow-beating or defensive - it's almost like he's bored. As in, he has a 'crap' role. As in no power.
5) Werewolves would not put themselves out there on first day by gunning for a lynch. They play the long game, even if there's a no-lynch on day 01, they know that they have time to pick off the others. A longer game helps town, but it helps scum too, since they get more night kills.
6) Werewolves wouldn't have elected themselves as sheriff. It draws attention to them. No, they'd have someone else elect them instead.
Not enough reasons? Well, those are mine so fuck off if you want more. I don't have to share your thoughts.
Again, going stupid over one vote. Seriously. The fuck, man?
So, anyone gonna call him out on his role call? We're pretty sure there's a witch among us and if the real witch calls you out, you are pretty fucking screwed, man. Unless you're a werewolf hoping someone calls you out so that you have someone to aim for during the night...
I'm off to bed. We'll see how this panned out overnight when I return.
I ask that anyone seeking to lynch Cave think about the points I've already given. Common sense, motherfuckers. Use dat shit.
So, anyone gonna call him out on his role call? We're pretty sure there's a witch among us and if the real witch calls you out, you are pretty fucking screwed, man. Unless you're a werewolf hoping someone calls you out so that you have someone to aim for during the night...
I'm off to bed. We'll see how this panned out overnight when I return.
I ask that anyone seeking to lynch Cave think about the points I've already given. Common sense, motherfuckers. Use dat shit.
1. Again with your scum-dars, they aren't always accurate.
2. Okay that is legit, I haven't played in a long while so I don't know much about that.
3. I didn't say he was an idiot. We know Cave is better than us, you don't have to shove it any more.
4. Yeah, that is legit too.
5. See, you go off of the usual behavior, yet there is always a chance that he using the usual to fool you.
6. That is debatable, if he likes power, why not deceive everyone and seize it while he can?
And yes YOUR "i'm better than you so fuck off" attitude really helps in this situation.
#cancel (lynch)
You have convinced me. Though he better not turn out scum, or your trust level for everyone I am sure will be nil.
My role call is legit, that is the only way I know who scum was targeting. They will deny it, and go berserk on me, which is how I will know who is scum.
2. Okay that is legit, I haven't played in a long while so I don't know much about that.
3. I didn't say he was an idiot. We know Cave is better than us, you don't have to shove it any more.
4. Yeah, that is legit too.
5. See, you go off of the usual behavior, yet there is always a chance that he using the usual to fool you.
6. That is debatable, if he likes power, why not deceive everyone and seize it while he can?
And yes YOUR "i'm better than you so fuck off" attitude really helps in this situation.
#cancel (lynch)
You have convinced me. Though he better not turn out scum, or your trust level for everyone I am sure will be nil.
My role call is legit, that is the only way I know who scum was targeting. They will deny it, and go berserk on me, which is how I will know who is scum.
Can you all please stop using "I am town" as an argument. No one knows it for sure, that's the point of this game. Adon, this is for you, as well as for Cave and others.
Now, Liberty, some things you're wrong about. Cave ain't pushing people to lynch someone when he's a town, he's doing it like always. In fact, he is playing exactly the same way both as town and as mafia, that's why he's so hard to read. Yet, I remember only one time when he've failed so hard on his own defense, and he was mafia back then.
I'm not sure about Cave now, yet him being sheriff makes a really huge argument for lynching him today.
I want to wait for a counter-claim to Adon, but I don't really think there will be one. So my scumdar targets (Cave and Platinum) remains as it is.
Now, Liberty, some things you're wrong about. Cave ain't pushing people to lynch someone when he's a town, he's doing it like always. In fact, he is playing exactly the same way both as town and as mafia, that's why he's so hard to read. Yet, I remember only one time when he've failed so hard on his own defense, and he was mafia back then.
I'm not sure about Cave now, yet him being sheriff makes a really huge argument for lynching him today.
I want to wait for a counter-claim to Adon, but I don't really think there will be one. So my scumdar targets (Cave and Platinum) remains as it is.
