THE DARK KNIGHT

I finally saw The Dark Knight today. I don't have much to add but the Joker literally redefined evil, twisted, psychotic, and demented. Holy flippin' crap it was so awesome.



Batman was a huge letdown though. He looked fake, the mask looked like a halloween constume at a dollar shop, and the fake voice he played off was entirely crappy. Luckily the Joker was so awesome that he made up like 300 times fold for any slack that was given.

I vote we just give say that this movie is an entire new art form. Like, officially make being evil an art, because the Joker's evilness was beautiful to say the least.

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So, if the movie had fewer action sequences, its deeper themes would be legitimate? Lots of movies (even snobby, artsy movies) attempt to portray the depravity of man, but fail hard in comparison to Dark Knight.

Kentona: yes

I think part of the issue is that it's showing how depraved a man is, not how depraved man is.. It was actually pretty humanistic about the nature of man in general. Look at the scene with the Ferries for proof of that. And even the other baddie in this movie (I can't imagine anyone is going to be surprised by it, but I'll be vague in case someone was living on Pluto while everyone else was learning the Batman mythos) took quite a bit to snap. And before he snapped, he was mostly a pretty okay guy. Even avoided a lot of pitfalls he could've fallen in.

I don't think the Joker being as deeply disturbed as he was necessarily says anything about humans in general, at least nothing that we didn't already know. And maybe part of the reason the Joker's evil in this movie isn't as effective on some of us is that...

...well those of us who follow comics at all know that the Joker has done a lot worse than the stuff he did in this movie. Are you familiar with the backstory of Oracle?

To quote from TV Tropes' write up for Joker's "Rape the Dog" moment:

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So, Batman is cool right? Am I right?

The current Batman/Bruce Wayne might be cool, but could he get a reservation at Dorsia?

This was an amazing comment.

Hahaha yes! High five to Dis and Mog.

@Natook: Yeah, I'm kinda unsure with the raspy voice taken on when he becomes Batman, but it does make sense that Bruce would want to mask his own voice the best he can. As for the costume, I dunno, didn't have a problem with it. Though I'm hearing from people all over that they didn't like it.

PS: Is that a rain coat?

Yes it is! In '87, Huey released this, Fore, their most accomplished album. I think their undisputed masterpiece is "Hip to be Square", a song so catchy, most people probably don't listen to the lyrics. But they should, because it's not just about the pleasures of conformity, and the importance of trends, it's also a personal statement about the band itself.

I honestly think if I lived in Gotham City I could figure out who Batman is.. If I heard his voice that is haha I mean it's like so recognizable after you hear it then Bruce Wayne.

Even with my bleeding eyes in the front row.
I was able to enjoy this film, it was a little
on the long side. But I really enjoyed it.
The Joker really made this film, saddens me
of Heath's death...

Anyways, can't wait to get the bootleg
DVD!!

~Sion

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Granted, but you brought up the High Art/Low Art divide as if it supported your point.

Well I have been called a megalomaniac AND a dinosaur over the course of this thread so

I don't know if there is much else to say!

This movie was so full of win. I'd watch it again just to see the Joker one more time.