[MAFIA] - SHIN MEGAMI TENSEI {GAME OVER}
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LockeZ
I'd really like to get rid of LockeZ. His play style is way too unpredictable. He's always like this too. If he ran a country, he'd just kill and imprison people at random until crime stopped.
5958
Liberty claimed her power was "Choose three people, and if two of them are in the same faction then their powers are nullified." What concerns me is the fact that she kept listing three people every day, and asking them if their powers had been nullified, because "she wasn't told the results."
She was fishing for some information and I'm trying to figure out what exactly. The simplest explanation is that she was telling the truth about her power and was trying to figure out who was on the same team as each-other. But on day three her list was absolutely bogus - it included Kloe who was already dead, and Pianotm who she nightkilled at the same time as she used her power. WTF. That can't be who she actually used it on.
Her power has to involve three people, because otherwise she wouldn't have kept giving lists of three people. But I think she was lying through her teeth about what it did.
She was fishing for some information and I'm trying to figure out what exactly. The simplest explanation is that she was telling the truth about her power and was trying to figure out who was on the same team as each-other. But on day three her list was absolutely bogus - it included Kloe who was already dead, and Pianotm who she nightkilled at the same time as she used her power. WTF. That can't be who she actually used it on.
Her power has to involve three people, because otherwise she wouldn't have kept giving lists of three people. But I think she was lying through her teeth about what it did.
author=LockeZ
*snip* But on day three her list was absolutely bogus - it included Kloe who was already dead, and Pianotm who she nightkilled at the same time as she used her power. WTF. That can't be who she actually used it on.
Her power has to involve three people, because otherwise she wouldn't have kept giving lists of three people. But I think she was lying through her teeth about what it did.
I think she may have been truthful on what her ability did. If her ability was investigative (blocking if two were of the same faction, or whatever), than she would not have been the one to nightkill Piano. Using Kloe's name would have allowed her to block Kloe's accomplice, assuming she guessed right with Piano or psy, which clearly was not the case.
I don't believe it wholly unrational that Liberty used the power on Kloe and Piano, especially if she didn't know that Piano would be dead. Trying to tag Kloe's faction would have earned her brownie points with us. I'd do it as a last ditch effort, too, to be honest.
But I agree, knowing who Libby was definitely puts her actions in question, nonetheless. I'm not going to argue against that. Just be careful what you discount. She could have provided some genuine information somewhere along the way.
Oh! Liberty was chaos. That's good.
Though, doesn't it mean that YM is probably good? He did tell us that Liberty's Law claim was false... I think?
Though, doesn't it mean that YM is probably good? He did tell us that Liberty's Law claim was false... I think?
LockeZ
I'd really like to get rid of LockeZ. His play style is way too unpredictable. He's always like this too. If he ran a country, he'd just kill and imprison people at random until crime stopped.
5958
Yeah. Yellow Magic, Hikitsune-Red and Zeuzio are all town.
If this is true, it means people still can't safely say who's in their faction. They could still be roleblocked for doing so. Shit.
Alternately, if this is not true, and you are scum, suggesting this idea to us is kind of brilliant. It prevents us from saying who's in our factions, even though there's no longer any downside to doing so.
I know you're not on Liberty's team though. That was proven yesterday in this post. You still might be on Kloe's team, but then I assume you wouldn't really know whether the power was passed on or not (unless you received it).
author=Archeia_Nessiah
Hey guys, I just realized. Liberty's real abilities aren't stated upon death. Does this mean the role got passed to someone else or...?
If this is true, it means people still can't safely say who's in their faction. They could still be roleblocked for doing so. Shit.
Alternately, if this is not true, and you are scum, suggesting this idea to us is kind of brilliant. It prevents us from saying who's in our factions, even though there's no longer any downside to doing so.
I know you're not on Liberty's team though. That was proven yesterday in this post. You still might be on Kloe's team, but then I assume you wouldn't really know whether the power was passed on or not (unless you received it).
author=LockeZauthor=Archeia_Nessiah
Hey guys, I just realized. Liberty's real abilities aren't stated upon death. Does this mean the role got passed to someone else or...?
Alternately, if this is not true, and you are scum, suggesting this idea to us is kind of brilliant. It prevents us from saying who's in our factions, even though there's no longer any downside to doing so.
Here's what made me think why:
author=CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK
"But, as long as man lusts for freedom..."
"I will never disappear."
1. If Lucifer is already lynched, then shouldn't people have won by now? At the very least, I don't think Neutral and Law are enemies?
2. This flavor text is too specific to be ignored.
3. Lucifer has a hidden role and his abilities aren't disclosed. I wouldn't be surprised if a.) it's a role pass b.) we're missing something.
However, I would like to put up a theory:
- Liberty has mentioned 3 people every time with her ability or something. There could be a degree of truth on it?
- We have neutral, law and chaos different factions. Then 3(?) other supporters.
If you put it together, I think it's no coincidence that there's an alignment that are Pro-Lucifer and possibly the other 2 alignments as well. I can't help but feel that it is a vital clue upon what is Lucifer's role in this game. I might be overthinking but Lucifer is a pretty major demon in SMT.
I only considered that last list at all because I know that day powers exist. Liberty could have used her powers during the day phase, but even if I ignore that fact she asked psy if his and kloes did not activate, despite my own power already confirming that those two aren't on the same team. Because of this I suspect it is as lockez said, she was lying through her teeth.
The fact that the role was hidden makes me think it is likely still part of the game somehow. It's the only explanation I can think of.
The fact that the role was hidden makes me think it is likely still part of the game somehow. It's the only explanation I can think of.
still waiting on some actions. five hours left.


author=Archeia_Nessiah
Hey guys, I just realized. Liberty's real abilities aren't stated upon death. Does this mean the role got passed to someone else or...?
That's actually plausible, especially when you consider this line in the flavor text:
"But, as long as man lusts for freedom..."
"I will never disappear."
I don't know why, but I don't think that's the ablility. It just feels... impossible to win against? The idea that one can just pass around that power? It would be pretty dangerous. It might be something like... what was it called? That one Mafia game that I didn't participate in? The infection one.
author=Ratty524
Hmm, if LockeZ used a power to confirm it, then I guess it won't hurt.
#lynch Liberty


author=LockeZ
Yeah. Yellow Magic, Hikitsune-Red and Zeuzio are all town.
If this is true, it means people still can't safely say who's in their faction. They could still be roleblocked for doing so. Shit.
Alternately, if this is not true, and you are scum, suggesting this idea to us is kind of brilliant. It prevents us from saying who's in our factions, even though there's no longer any downside to doing so.
I know you're not on Liberty's team though. That was proven yesterday in this post. You still might be on Kloe's team, but then I assume you wouldn't really know whether the power was passed on or not (unless you received it).


author=Hikitsune-Redauthor=demonlord5000I agree completely.
The names seem to be mostly flavor for the game. I don't think they were ever intended to give hints about our alignment.
We don't know how investigations will turn out over the night phase either, so I'll wait till that before deciding who the best target might be.


Day 4 Begins. No one has died.
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Team Humility has achieved their primary win condition!
There is no deadline set.
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There is no deadline set.
With ten alive, it takes six votes to lynch.
LockeZ
I'd really like to get rid of LockeZ. His play style is way too unpredictable. He's always like this too. If he ran a country, he'd just kill and imprison people at random until crime stopped.
5958
Well that's concerning. I've been fully cleared as town, though, apparently. (...Why am I still alive?)
So, we should obviously kill Frogge.
He was not in communication with Pianotm, so it's very unlikely that he's neutral. He's probably humility or chaos. At best he's a neutral player who was not in contact with Pianotm, but I don't really see how his win condition of "wins if scum wins" could possibly qualify as neutral.
#lynch Frogge
So, we should obviously kill Frogge.
He was not in communication with Pianotm, so it's very unlikely that he's neutral. He's probably humility or chaos. At best he's a neutral player who was not in contact with Pianotm, but I don't really see how his win condition of "wins if scum wins" could possibly qualify as neutral.
#lynch Frogge
Didn't get any new leads over night, but we have narrowed down a few more options. Frogge is likely for scum given all the evidence we have, so I see no reason why not to lynch him.
#lynch Frogge
#lynch Frogge
LockeZ
I'd really like to get rid of LockeZ. His play style is way too unpredictable. He's always like this too. If he ran a country, he'd just kill and imprison people at random until crime stopped.
5958
So, as a summary, we know there are three town teams. I'm on one of those three teams, Hikitstune and Zeuzio are on a second one, and Yellow Magic is probably on the third one, but might be partnered with Hikitsune and Zeuzio.
The remaining unknown people are Frogge, OddRabbit, Ratty524, Archeia Nessiah, Psy_Wombats, and Demonlord5000.
The remaining unknown people are Frogge, OddRabbit, Ratty524, Archeia Nessiah, Psy_Wombats, and Demonlord5000.
- We have confirmation that Odd, Ratty, and Nessy are not chaos, but they could still be humility.
- We have confirmation that Psy is not humility, but he could still be chaos.
- We have confirmation that Demonlord is not on Hikitsune and Zeuzio's team.
- We have confirmation that Frogge is not neutral, and not on my team.
- Frogge investigated Hikitsune-Red's alignment and thus is presumably not on Hikitsune and Zeuzio's team.
author=psy_wombats
@Frogge: Any results? Please tell me you investigated Liberty or YM.
author=Liberty
@Frogge: Yes, please.
@Nessy: Right, being both of them couldn't possibly be lying. Oh... wait, yeah they could. >.>
I lost my ability for one night since Kloe was part of the aligment I had to protect. Well shit.
You guys realize I will just die without you lynchin me, right? Two chaos people are dead already.
Anyway, doesn't it make more sense to lynch demonlord? It is confirmed that hikitsune is either law, patience or charity, and demonlord does not share alignment with him.




















