[MAFIA] THE EXORCISM OF MAFIAVILLE (GAME OVER)

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OzzyTheOne
Future Ruler of Gam Mak
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author=CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK
well yeah, it was the night phase counter. piano just didn't want day phase to start until it had run out, but posted the d2 flip early.

like, demonlord's flip was posted LONG after night phase had started. like twelve hours later. I'm not sure why someone said night phase was only a couple of hours long.


I said couple of hours but I meant to say that it was almost 24 hours. Also, why would piano post the results of anightkill 5 hours before the start of day 2? That sounds like something a bad mafia host would do and I do not believe piano to be a bad mafia host.
CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK
On sunny days, I go out walking
1142
i'm unsure how to proceed now.

if the theory about there being one person possessing people is true, which is what I am HEAVILY leaning towards because piano apparently said he took inspiration from the smt game, along with jeroen and piano not feeling worried about game balance after modkilling 3(!!!) townies, then, there is essentially very little scumhunting we can actually do because there's a lot less to analyze. most of my lynches would probably be based more on meta of who piano would give that role to tbh.

if we want to proceed as if that isn't true, i think the scumteam is almost entirely lurkers+ozzy=
I mean, if scum did recruit people or pass around the demon status how would we scumhunt?
OzzyTheOne
Future Ruler of Gam Mak
4698
I only truly suspect CAVE, but that is mostly due to the fact that I absolutetly hate his meta, on every game that I play, I don't stop suspecting him until it is 100% proven that he is not scum. He has tricked town in the past and I'm not ready to be tricked by him at any point of this game.
We'll know the setup after tonight at least depending on if someone dies as POSSESSED or something before the nightphase anyway. Until then I think it's probably best to scumhunt as normal. I also think there'd have to be more to the game than having to guess someone the night they're infected, and I can't find where piano posted the thing about SMT -- but I think he did say it at some point or else he'd be hosting Spy vs Spy 2 right now.
I wouldn't worry about cave much. I feel like he'd lead town in murdering itself rather than being "unsure of how to proceed". His confusion is comforting tbh. XD

OzzyTheOne
Future Ruler of Gam Mak
4698
author=Gourd_Clae
I mean, if scum did recruit people or pass around the demon status how would we scumhunt?


Wait, waht if CAVE's little Pazuzu play is a form of possession detector? CAVE, I know that you're my prime suspect, but can you do the Pazuzu thing again? Is it an actual power you have or was that just a bunch of baloney?
CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK
On sunny days, I go out walking
1142
we could test this out by killing ozzy. as you can see from the post above where he advocates killing me regardless of my alignment, well into day 2, and from his posts day 1, he is the most likely person who is PLAYING THE GAME, to be scum.
I'd rather kill the lurkers not gonna lie.
OzzyTheOne
Future Ruler of Gam Mak
4698
I never advocated to kill you regardless of aligment, did you really read my post? I said that I don't trust you until it has been proven that you are not scum. How is that advocating to kill you regardless of aligment?
Then you should vote on someone you think is scum, Ozzy.

@Gourd: There have definitely been games on this site before that were impossible to actually scumhunt. I'd hope piano wouldn't be hosting one though.
CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK
On sunny days, I go out walking
1142
we have to kill people we think are scum. it is impossible to "prove" anything most of the time, so saying you suspect me is tantamount to saying you want me dead.
also
I do have to point out that CAVE's initial joking about being possessed and mentioning that there might be some kind of possession mechanic strikes me as very suspicious, it could just be a coincidence but I find that to be very unlikely.


As for the entire Libby/CAVE situation, I don't know either people's meta so I find CAVE's actions too random to be good, if Libby gets lynched now and turns out to be town, there won't be any proper read on what the heck CAVE is doing. In my opinion he's trying to use his known meta to confuse and distract the more experienced players from doing a proper scum hunt.


don't backpedal now..
CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK
On sunny days, I go out walking
1142
my perception of dudesoft is someone who puts in a lot of effort as town (he once...like...he filled an entire notebook with stuff) and doesn't do much as scum, as he is doing now.

shinan is just. like this in every game. its sad but true.

odd is similar to dudesoft. not as much effort as dudes when town but he still DOES THINGS.

but honestly i'm favoring killing ozzy over all of them. scum if you have any honor you will kill whichever ones of dudesoft, shinan, and odd, that are not amongst you.

#lynch ozzy
OzzyTheOne
Future Ruler of Gam Mak
4698
@CAVE You didn't answer my question yet, was the entire glory to pazuzu thing just a bunch of baloney? Or was there actually some use in it? Of course, I am basing this question on the assumption that scum is a host hopping demon, and that the pazuzu thing could be way of detecting said demon.
CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK
On sunny days, I go out walking
1142
that was not a power I had. I was trying to see who would and wouldn't join my weird made up game. with the theory being that scum would probably be more reluctant to do so.

however, pazuzu is real. i am not afraid to admit it.
Cap_H
DIGITAL IDENTITY CRISIS
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But I think that various comments from Cave differed before drunken posts. There were this Pazuzu game, which contrasted with his first comment on Liberty (before the big case).

author=Gourd_Clae
How do you know?


I don't really know. It shouldn't, so I was stating the usual manner. It's possible that there is a twist/mechanic, which automatically janitors dead. In that case, I would be sure that we have 3 wolves left.
If we are lucky and there is no such mechanic, one wolf is actually dead.

Ebeth
always up for cute art and spicy gay romance
4390
God I thought Pazuzu was an RMN member but I just googled it and I'm an idiot. Anyway I'm 99% certain Caves thing was a joke.

Anyway I'd much rather lynch someone whose been lurking today & given stuff Shinan has done my lynch is on him.

#Lynch Shinan
Cap_H
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author=CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK
author=OzzyTheOne
I do have to point out that CAVE's initial joking about being possessed and mentioning that there might be some kind of possession mechanic strikes me as very suspicious, it could just be a coincidence but I find that to be very unlikely.
the game literally has exorcism in the title dude. lol

Cave posted a lot in this game and I feel that his style is more informative than usual. It feels almost schizophrenic as it switches between crazy and rational. I'm quite afraid of that. Also, the way he switched to Psy and then returned back to Liberty, while reading her town was sketchy at least.
I find that Psy gave us more possible spew than Cave and most of his activity can be called as coasting. The only theory which speaks in his favour is that Cave could see his liberty case as too strong and was trying to prepare d2 lynch.


almost as if I was POSSESSED!!!!!!!!!!

that said while I townread you pretty hard early on your paranoia is making me wary. can you explain this post more because I don't understand it. my questions:

Why is switching to someone else and then switching back because you mistakenly believe we need to hammer someone to lynch, sketchy?
What do you mean by seeing that my case was TOO strong?
Why is it between psy and I? You have no other suspicions now or what?


Ok, It's like you got afraid for a moment and tried to distance from your case. On the other hand, you had no reason to return on Liberty, She would get hammered without you. But then again, you could see it as suspitious and returned your vote. I'm just afraid there.
If you're town and you're proving it right now, I'm sure that psy is wolf as he's trying to avoid calling you wolf. I think at least.
By TOO strong I mean that other used the case as a base for voting Libby.

I have other suspitions, but I believe that you were either right yesterday or wolf. There's possibility of some team of slankers but I usually find them being easy mislynch targets. Also, it's easier to focus on two of you. If both of you prove to be town, I'll gladly move on.

author=Ebeth
Also someone mentioned cultists, can someone give me a tldr on how that works? I vaguely remember from years ago.

Sometimes they work like additional 3rd party. In a game I played, they worked like extra wolves. They count for parity, but they don't need to be killed in order to defeat werewolves.
Cap_H
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I'm probably wrong. Page 15 looks good for both psy and Cave. Without psy, Ebeth looks good too. LockeZ had very solid d1.

Ozzy power hunting is not a good look.
Cap_H
DIGITAL IDENTITY CRISIS
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Cave, do you still suspect psy?

I find that problem with others suspects than Cave and Psy is this:
Shinan did nothing, sticked with rvs vote
Odd did nothing
Dudesoft did nothing, hammered town
Ozzy wrote some confused comments and did some obviously scummy things. He could be good lynch bait, if he were town.

So, that's the reason I'm focusing on Cave and Psy, which are possible to read.