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[MAFIA] PRISONER'S DILEMMA. GAME OVER
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AlaskanEmily
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CloseAt this point I still think PA is most likely scum who just failed at role fishing.
ohhhhh, I misunderstood that too then, I thought he meant his role was cop. Man, I'm out here berating Demonlord for his reading comprehension but I myself can't read.
AlaskanEmily
At this point I still think PA is most likely scum who just failed at role fishing.
Yeah, and then he laid low after the heat was off him, which was not good for his complexion. He looked like bad town to me at first, but then after he fell off the radar and let everyone argue amongst themselves while he basically just memed, yeah, I'm reading him as scum, now.
OzzyTheOne
ohhhhh, I misunderstood that too then, I thought he meant his role was cop. Man, I'm out here berating Demonlord for his reading comprehension but I myself can't read.
Could be worse. You could have entirely missed the "role" part of his claim.
demonlord5000
680
I'm telling ya, it's the nature of mafia. Give me a normal game and I'll understand it just fine. Go into mafia and nope...mistakes abound.
Cave you probably missed it, but I cancelled my vote on Psy earlier. Will do it again for your convienence.
#cancel
#cancel
Btw, I'm really not liking how much Piano is pointing out that we should vote him. That kind of self-defeating attitute never sits well with me and I register it as a ploy from scum to get pity from town and survive.
Sorry about the late reply. I'm back from taking a shower and then done with my late dinner. My interaction with psy isn't coordinated I swear.
It's just that I have suspicions about PA said.
Probably something like this shouldn't be taking seriously, who would actually said that they're scum openly. What if they are one though? Just a thought
Next time I'll remember to post what I'm going to when I'm ready.
It's just that I have suspicions about PA said.
author=PlatinumAshes
I see that none of the other hated players are willing to claim with me. I guess you don't want to reveal anymore information to scum. Fine then, whatever.
source- https://rpgmaker.net/forums/topics/24686/?post=887189#post887189
Probably something like this shouldn't be taking seriously, who would actually said that they're scum openly. What if they are one though? Just a thought
Next time I'll remember to post what I'm going to when I'm ready.
He's not claiming to be scum. "Hated" refers to the condition where all town wants to be non-vanilla. The condition is that it takes two votes fewer to hammer hated town. I was never told I was hated so I took it as a bluff. If we are hated, then that's evidence that psy is scum because he was up to six votes and didn't hammer.
One less vote. Not two. It would still have ended in a hammer if he was a hated town, but he wasn't so either town is all hated and he's mafia (considering that people would have jumped on him even more if that was the case I think it's safe to confirm now that town isn't hated) or town isn't hated (which is fact).
PA seemed like he was just channelling Cave_dog crazy, which is why I voted him - I've no appreciation for that particular brand of mental. Well, and his avatar - no, really not joking about that. It creeps me out. A first day lynch vote, without better prospects, is fine to be a bit silly.
PA seemed like he was just channelling Cave_dog crazy, which is why I voted him - I've no appreciation for that particular brand of mental. Well, and his avatar - no, really not joking about that. It creeps me out. A first day lynch vote, without better prospects, is fine to be a bit silly.
In other words, PA was blowing it out his ass and acting a fool to either be dumb for dumbs' sake, act zany in order to confuse the issue, trigger people to respond to him for reactions to play off or scum play by pretending to be dumb town.
He's still on my watch list, especially since he hasn't talked much lately.
Honestly, about the only person I think for sure is town (aside from myself, of course) is probably Ivory. Maybe Emily, oddRabbit and demonlord as well. The rest of ya have been a bit ehhhh at one point or another but I'm happy with my vote on piano for the time being.
He's still on my watch list, especially since he hasn't talked much lately.
Honestly, about the only person I think for sure is town (aside from myself, of course) is probably Ivory. Maybe Emily, oddRabbit and demonlord as well. The rest of ya have been a bit ehhhh at one point or another but I'm happy with my vote on piano for the time being.
demonlord5000
680
I was considering awhile back that cave could have made different types of hated roles than just the standard 1 less vote to get lynched, but looking at psy's role I doubt it now. It's actually a decent role and implies at least a few of us are vanilla. Assuming it's actually real of course.
@tale: the reason I felt it was coordinated were two reason. The first is as I said, you randomly disappeared. If you really did go shower then yeah, be more careful of that in the future. The second reason is you said you'd reply after psy's post. This was extremely close to the timestamp where he claimed so it looked like you were posting around the same time. Almost as if you were waiting for a big post and then planned to throw in something.
Now that I see your reasoning, your cancel really had nothing to do at all with psy, and I don't understand why you were waiting for him to post. I still don't really understand how that post makes you feel better about psy, if anything it just makes you feel worse about PA, and we all have our doubts on him.
@tale: the reason I felt it was coordinated were two reason. The first is as I said, you randomly disappeared. If you really did go shower then yeah, be more careful of that in the future. The second reason is you said you'd reply after psy's post. This was extremely close to the timestamp where he claimed so it looked like you were posting around the same time. Almost as if you were waiting for a big post and then planned to throw in something.
Now that I see your reasoning, your cancel really had nothing to do at all with psy, and I don't understand why you were waiting for him to post. I still don't really understand how that post makes you feel better about psy, if anything it just makes you feel worse about PA, and we all have our doubts on him.
Liberty
Honestly, about the only person I think for sure is town (aside from myself, of course) is probably Ivory. Maybe Emily, oddRabbit and demonlord as well. The rest of ya have been a bit ehhhh at one point or another but I'm happy with my vote on piano for the time being.
That's just fine, because I am happy with my vote on you.
By the way, Ozzy, the Lynch Me thing isn't defeatism. I'm actually hoping to get lynched because when I flip town, I've yelled at certain people quite a bit about being scum, and me getting lynched will, in my opinion, yield the optimal day two conversations. Let me just repeat my suspicions.
psy is still a scum read for me, but I feel a lot better about him because his explanation that he's out of town is exactly what would explain his scummy behavior to me. The reason it doesn't fully absolve him in my view is because the last time I saw him have this problem in a mafia game, he and I were actually on a scum team together, and this is the same inattentiveness I saw then, but that's not a fair comparison since extremely limited internet access will skew the reading no matter what.
Liberty absolutely gaslighted my comment and tried to lead everyone into thinking I was complaining about her giving advice to newbies, which anyone reading my comments saw that I did no such thing and it could not even have been misconstrued as such. Libby was literally saying that scum reading on town was false because he was new. I very specifically pointed out that the number of newbies in this game increased the chances that one of the scum team is a newbie, which she completely evaded and basically threw a temper tantrum about me trying to stop her from being helpful to newbies. There is not a single doubt she is scum, and she doesn't have psy's limited internet access as an excuse.
Then there's Ozzy, who used psy's confusion about the vote count, literally the least scummy mistake you can make, against him and used it as his reason to vote for psy. Ozzy is looking shady as fuck.
Then there's PA. At first he did confusing stuff which only ensured that confused people would reveal town wasn't hated. This made him look like bad town. He made a lot of noise, did a gag feud with me where he voted for me and left his vote there until very recently. Then, once the heat got off of him and onto psy, he immediately stopped his shenanigans and half-heartedly memed the entire time and offered absolutely nothing of use. I've seen PA play town three times. He's never this useless.
A caveat about AlaskanEmily. She doesn't seem scummy, but her posts don't seem like her usual self. Maybe she's just mentally exhausted, but keep an eye on her. She might be being helpful scum.
@piano I appreciate your hated explanation.
@Liberty Also PA has a sense of unconventional play style
@demonlord Thank you your input. I thought psy was reviewing previous posts, instead he explained his role. I was hesitant about PA action than psy's suspicion. Somehow that got together. He sort of foreshadow during the Fomar's stats that "odd gets better with power roles." Which side though? I didn't see role claim post at the time.
The timing with #cancel was sort of karma moment when someone post with expert timing.
I've gone with No Lynch because I thought it's rash to make an early decision without anything substantial. It was temporary stall until there's reason to start something not for the sake of it.
@Liberty Also PA has a sense of unconventional play style
@demonlord Thank you your input. I thought psy was reviewing previous posts, instead he explained his role. I was hesitant about PA action than psy's suspicion. Somehow that got together. He sort of foreshadow during the Fomar's stats that "odd gets better with power roles." Which side though? I didn't see role claim post at the time.
author=psy_wombats
Will review some other posts again.
Source-https://rpgmaker.net/forums/topics/24686/?post=887412#post887412
The timing with #cancel was sort of karma moment when someone post with expert timing.
I've gone with No Lynch because I thought it's rash to make an early decision without anything substantial. It was temporary stall until there's reason to start something not for the sake of it.
Probably I phrased something odd from previous post. Mostly I feel uneasy voting at first is all
anyway, night
anyway, night
author=pianotmFomar0153This post has been annoying me since Fomar posted it and I think I just realized why. Is this even real? Who says this? This just looks so fake! I am legit starting to see why people think Fomar is scum.
What do I need to respond to at the moment? Do I need to vote? I thought the day also ended after a certain time. Just incase then:
#lynch PlatinumAshes
Libby's reasoning makes sense to me, I think.
author=pianotmLibertyThis is how mafia works: the moderator chooses scum by rolling a damned dice or writing a random number generator or finding one on Google. You're not scum-reading Fomar, but a lot of people are, none of which justifies you acting like a jerk to anyone scum-hunting him. In fact, what's even shadier is that you're actually going out of your way to stop people scumhunting him using veiled insults and threats of counter-scumhunts. "He's new!" is not a defense.* It's a deflection. In fact, that there are so many newbies in this game significantly increases the chances that one of them is scum, which I think you know and are willfully ignoring, which it seems you are either overlooking or willfully ignoring. I think you need to explain that, because I am scum reading you equally as hard as I'm scum-reading psy.
You realise he has no idea how to play, right? This is his first game. He's new. It's why I explained the basics earlier for him. He's new. And that has been stated more than a few times.
* Yes, it is. Or I think it is, especially for the first part of the first day bullshit, before people start jumping all over each other. My responding that he's new to your jumping down his throat for asking questions is what started all this bullshit.
Oh, and you intimated that I was making "veiled insults and threats of counter-scumhunts". Where were said insults and threats? There were none. You pulled that out of your ass and painted it to try and make me seem bad.
Oh, but you didn't say anything about helping newbies? I guess you're right. You didn't quite say that, but you certainly alluded towards it because I was defending someone who didn't know how to play and was asking questions to better learn against you.
In fact, you straight up said that I must be using it as a cover for being scum or actually be his scum partner - which, uh, hello, if that were the case there's a reason the fucking mafia chat exists.
I have dealt with newbie players as scum partners before - I would have done what I did the last time that happened and coached them through shit like this in the private chat so they don't fuck up and so there's no connection between us in thread.
Unless you think I'm absolutely moron at mafia, which would be a lie since you seemed to think in the past that I do a passably decent job at being scum at least. So... just wondering why you suddenly think I'm an idiot if I'm actually scum this time around? Well, except to try and paint a bullseye on my back, of course. That way it'd make sense, especially with so many new players around who don't know all our play styles. Pretty fucking scummy to do so though. OH WAIT!!!
Yeah, sorry, but you read as all kinds of bad juju to me. The only way I'm voting off you is if we get close to a hammer on someone else, because I've only got so much time to play this game and getting a move on is a good idea in my book.
Liberty
You realise he has no idea how to play, right? This is his first game. He's new. It's why I explained the basics earlier for him. He's new. And that has been stated more than a few times. It's kinda sus that you've ignored the many times that has been pointed out and are trying to push the idea that he's scum.
He reads as a confused newbie to me. You're jumping at shadows.
And you're not implying that I'm a mafia moron. Right.
pianotm
#Lynch Liberty
#cancel
#Lynch Liberty
