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[MAFIA] SPY VS. MAFIA II DAY 3
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Cap_H
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CloseI will be offline for the rest of day, so I need to vote now. I'm little afraid to commit as none of my reads is super strong, but let's make a list (btw Piano, I don't think I voted Ozzy in the end).
VVV - PSY
VV - Cave
V - LockeZ, Alaskan, Jero, Odd, Ozzy (for the claim)
W - Demonlord, Fomar, Milk, PA
WW
WWW
I'm obviously wrong somewhere. Anyway, Milk didn't do anything worth mentioning even in their third post. Not a hint of a read.
Fomar and Demon put scummy votes on Ozzy. Fomar was way louder when it came to his read and made several comments on it. Demon kind of sidelined.. I'm by no means sure I'm making a right decision, but I'm going with Demon over Fomar for now because of his possibly tmi read earlier.
Why I hesitate is Jero's case. Jero's a competent player and his pursue of Demon seems to be based on something insignificant, which is actually what he usually does, so I shouldn't worry about that.
PA lynch is ok too imo. Them joking around lacks any meat and it's really difficult to townread him for that. Also he's voting one of my other suspects and that makes me feel slightly better.
#cancel
#lynch Demonlord5000
VVV - PSY
VV - Cave
V - LockeZ, Alaskan, Jero, Odd, Ozzy (for the claim)
W - Demonlord, Fomar, Milk, PA
WW
WWW
I'm obviously wrong somewhere. Anyway, Milk didn't do anything worth mentioning even in their third post. Not a hint of a read.
Fomar and Demon put scummy votes on Ozzy. Fomar was way louder when it came to his read and made several comments on it. Demon kind of sidelined.. I'm by no means sure I'm making a right decision, but I'm going with Demon over Fomar for now because of his possibly tmi read earlier.
Why I hesitate is Jero's case. Jero's a competent player and his pursue of Demon seems to be based on something insignificant, which is actually what he usually does, so I shouldn't worry about that.
PA lynch is ok too imo. Them joking around lacks any meat and it's really difficult to townread him for that. Also he's voting one of my other suspects and that makes me feel slightly better.
#cancel
#lynch Demonlord5000
psy_wombats
13315
Oh, @demon, I don't think working vaguely similarly to last game is actually evidence one way or the other because scum would also have this information
My initial thought was that Ozzy was in a scumchat with someone who played last game and the setup was actually different, but thinking about it, that the each-other rule was implemented makes me think that Ozzy's setup info is accurate, regardless of his alignment
My initial thought was that Ozzy was in a scumchat with someone who played last game and the setup was actually different, but thinking about it, that the each-other rule was implemented makes me think that Ozzy's setup info is accurate, regardless of his alignment
demonlord5000
680
To me it sounded like either ozzy being an obvious nk choice for scum, or a person worth investigating on day 2. I also don't see why ozzy would have the agents counterclaim as that means outing themselves in the thread. That's why I didn't think that knowledge was overall useful to us. You make a good point on that each-other rule though.
Regarding the tuba, I'm a bit confused why we don't have two results right now. Did the first person's attempt fail so nothing happened in the thread, and then it passed to you? I think it's an incredibly useful item if it keeps going though. Could be overpowered even but then I don't know what other items exist.
Regarding the tuba, I'm a bit confused why we don't have two results right now. Did the first person's attempt fail so nothing happened in the thread, and then it passed to you? I think it's an incredibly useful item if it keeps going though. Could be overpowered even but then I don't know what other items exist.
psy_wombats
13315
@cap no, I kind of don't. See the post above that as to why.
Unfortunately I don't think your vote will stick with everyone hopefully blowing my tuba. Hoped the time left today should be enough for vote rallying. Although I'd mostly feel really dumb if I died at night still grasping my tuba never having blown it once.
Unfortunately I don't think your vote will stick with everyone hopefully blowing my tuba. Hoped the time left today should be enough for vote rallying. Although I'd mostly feel really dumb if I died at night still grasping my tuba never having blown it once.
12 hours until end of day.
Psy-wombats has used the Euphonium, canceling all existing votes and revealing fomar0153 as town.
Current vote count:
Demonlord5000(1): Cap_H
With 12 alive, it takes 7 to hammer.
Psy-wombats has used the Euphonium, canceling all existing votes and revealing fomar0153 as town.
Current vote count:
Demonlord5000(1): Cap_H
With 12 alive, it takes 7 to hammer.
demonlord5000
680
12 hours, I may be asleep for when the night phase ends, but I'll make sure I throw down a vote before I go to bed.
psy_wombats
13315
@demon: I asked for aliases not names. With the counterclaiming I'm confused why a real agent would say that as they are in communication with each other, and would not counter claim a real agent in the first place. Real agent would be telling the others not to /corroborate/ them, and they'd be doing that in agent chat.
demonlord5000
680
Another thought on the tuba: This game started with a little over 2 days on the clock. Why has it only been used twice? At 90% odds I doubt it could have failed that many times.
psy_wombats
13315
I think it "spawned" on me. The failure is a false reading not a silent fail (not 100% on that)
The items last game were like this as well - spawning in, not at start of game. Piano gifted liberty a bomb after the each-other fiasco and she proceeded to route the entire agent team in a single night phase
The items last game were like this as well - spawning in, not at start of game. Piano gifted liberty a bomb after the each-other fiasco and she proceeded to route the entire agent team in a single night phase
Good,
Actually while taking a shower a fallacy in my logic occurred to me. Demon's only possibly scum if Ozzy's town. Ozzy claimed, but he's far from confirmed.
Fomar flipping town makes PA an obvious choice for now, then.
#cancel
#lynch PlatinumAshes
Actually while taking a shower a fallacy in my logic occurred to me. Demon's only possibly scum if Ozzy's town. Ozzy claimed, but he's far from confirmed.
Fomar flipping town makes PA an obvious choice for now, then.
#cancel
#lynch PlatinumAshes
demonlord5000
680
Ah fair enough. Also, I still don't think looking at the votes is a reliable indicator if the information we have is accurate. Ozzy claimed all the agents have code names and don't know each person's real identities. That tuba is a much safer alternative if things go well.
Lockez added on later and said if it's the exact same setup as the last games, then scum don't know each other's identities. In other words, agents could easily buss another agent, and scum another scum, without ever realizing it. They can't exactly coordinate with the very real possibility of a gray agent as well.
I'm still mulling over if I want to put my vote back on ozzy. It's a very real possibility that he knew the setup beforehand though due to the previous game.
Lockez added on later and said if it's the exact same setup as the last games, then scum don't know each other's identities. In other words, agents could easily buss another agent, and scum another scum, without ever realizing it. They can't exactly coordinate with the very real possibility of a gray agent as well.
I'm still mulling over if I want to put my vote back on ozzy. It's a very real possibility that he knew the setup beforehand though due to the previous game.
psy_wombats
13315
The setup info is a nulltell. Not only is the past setup public knowledge, scum would also have that info and be aware of a gray agent.
psy_wombats
13315
#cancel
#lynch PlatinumAshes
It strikes me that if Ozzy really is a liar then the real agents already know this and will blow him up in the end game
#lynch PlatinumAshes
It strikes me that if Ozzy really is a liar then the real agents already know this and will blow him up in the end game
demonlord5000
680
Yeah I might as well. I'll be going to bed soon and I need to have a vote down. He was acting pretty suspiciously before that claim. One thing that's bothering me is that roles/items don't seem to be the same considering that tuba that spawned in. In which case why did ozzy claim to have a paper bag from the start?
#lynch ozzy
#lynch ozzy
demonlord5000
680
And ninja'd. I might as well go with the PA vote since it's the majority. I don't really think he's scum but I do want to avoid a no lynch.
#cancel
#lynch PlatinumAshes
#cancel
#lynch PlatinumAshes
demonlord5000
680
I wouldn't normally do this but I'm going to sleep soon and I probably won't be back before the day ends. He's suspicious enough to warrant a vote at least.
psy_wombats
13315
Check back in if you can, the tuba is out there
Personally I'll be getting on a plane in about an hour but I will be back phone posting as usual tomorrow morning
Personally I'll be getting on a plane in about an hour but I will be back phone posting as usual tomorrow morning
Jeroen_Sol
Nothing reveals Humanity so well as the games it plays. A game of betrayal, where the most suspicious person is brutally murdered? How savage.
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@Psy, can you get mod confirmation on whether Fomar has a 90% or a 100% chance of being town? Your item description is ambiguous.
I don't really like the PA train. He's been joking around a lot, but when he actually started playing it felt organic and legit to me.
Will have to reread Emily, but now Ozzy's off the table for today I'm still in favour of lynching demon instead. Especially with him bandwagoning on PA like that.
I don't really like the PA train. He's been joking around a lot, but when he actually started playing it felt organic and legit to me.
Will have to reread Emily, but now Ozzy's off the table for today I'm still in favour of lynching demon instead. Especially with him bandwagoning on PA like that.
