[MAFIA] SPY VS. MAFIA II DAY 3

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PlatinumAshes
I am now certain that you are not scum and are just town trying to play scum as hard as possible.
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For now, I am down to oddRABBIT, Demonlord and LockeZ (probably in that order). Since it's probably too late for us to vote for the other two at this point, I will vote for Demonlord

#lynch Demonlord
pianotm
The TM is for Totally Magical.
32388
9 hours until end of day.

Psy-wombats has used the Euphonium, canceling all existing votes and revealing fomar0153 as town.

Current vote count:
Demonlord5000(3): Cap_H, CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK, PlatinumAshes, Jeroen_Sol
PlatinumAshes(2): Cap_H, psy_wombats, demonlord5000
OzzyTheOne(0): demonlord5000
AlaskanEmily(0): CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to hammer.

Dang it, PA, your avatar is even confusing me!

PlatinumAshes
I am now certain that you are not scum and are just town trying to play scum as hard as possible.
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author=demonlord5000
And ninja'd. I might as well go with the PA vote since it's the majority. I don't really think he's scum but I do want to avoid a no lynch.

#cancel
#lynch PlatinumAshes


Actually, I'm also not a big fan on this voting pattern. There were two votes on me at this point right? There's no need to align with a "majority" of only 2 votes. I thought Demonlord had me as town before?
author=CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK
this reply doesn't really address what I said. maybe I need a translator.


author=CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK
emily, it's illegal to insinuate that I am being dishonest or lying. it's hardcoded into RMN's infrastructure, actually. don't know why the bot hasn't stripped you of your privileges and marked you as an enemy of the state. probably liberty broke it


Then what didn't I address?
Jeroen_Sol
Nothing reveals Humanity so well as the games it plays. A game of betrayal, where the most suspicious person is brutally murdered? How savage.
3885
My vote was already on demon to begin with, and his bandwagoning hasn't helped his case any in my eyes, so

#Lynch demonlord
author=PlatinumAshes
Actually, I'm also not a big fan on this voting pattern. There were two votes on me at this point right? There's no need to align with a "majority" of only 2 votes. I thought Demonlord had me as town before?


Maybe your avatar confused him? If Elon made us think of you as harmless then your current one is making us confused and blame you.

I will steal J...your list.
author=PlatinumAshes
Emily who I don't see the case against. She was speculating about the hammer and I disagreed with her, but I don't see anything scummy in it. The way she voted against me also doesn't make me suspect her, it did seem like she just got Ninja'd. Also she didn't jump on the Ozzy wagon.


So far I don't see the case against her either, I know meta-reading backfired for us on Ozzy (though I guess we were right he was an agent, just not the colour we wanted) but she feels exactly the same for me as last game where she was town.

author=PlatinumAshes
Cap H and CAVE Were pretty early on the Ozzy wagon. Whether that's a good or a bad thing depends on whether Ozzy is a real agent. Cap H also tried to start something on me just now. Assuming Ozzy is really an agent, I think Cap H looks like a good lynch candidate. But I also think we should wait it out first to see what Ozzy ends up being.

If everything Ozzy said is true which we'll know in the next couple of days then bear in mind the agents don't know who each-other are. I'm not sure at this point how much emphasis on the vote we should take when looking for scum.

author=PlatinumAshes
oddRABIT who was himself in his early posts and now he has become completely invisible again. I hate how he does this

Yeah as soon as Ozzy and I stopped talking about him he vanished. He also hasn't voted once, other than the fact he hasn't said "I don't know" this is very much like how he has last time.

author=PlatinumAshes
milk Who is even more invisible, but I oppose lynching him only on grounds of him being new. I would lynch odd instead.

If he doesn't pick up posting then he's my choice for day 2 or 3.

author=PlatinumAshes
Jeroen I'm leaning town on. He could have jumped on my wagon just now and it wouldn't have put him in much danger if he were scum.

Currently I'm strictly neutral.

author=PlatinumAshes
lockeZ His posts seem to be more about the game setup. I expected more in-depth reads from him to be honest. His only detailed read was about my avatar at the start of the game.

Again strictly neutral.

As for the people you missed.

Demonlord5000:
author=demonlord5000
#lynch ozzy

author=demonlord5000
And ninja'd. I might as well go with the PA vote since it's the majority. I don't really think he's scum but I do want to avoid a no lynch.

#cancel
#lynch PlatinumAshes

These bother me, particularly because there is no chance of no-lynch and it's been mentioned over and over.

Psy - could the trombone have revealed anyone including the good agents? If so then it's kind of a neutral item but I'm not sure an agent of either side would use it lightly. I'm leaning town.

PlatinumAshes - Crazy followed by meaningful posts. I won't lie he's currently the player I would be least upset about if we lynched and found town.

I'm awake and more or less around for the remainder of the day phase so I'll vote later but my choice would be: demonlord, PA or Odd.
pianotm
The TM is for Totally Magical.
32388
6 hours until end of day.

Psy-wombats has used the Euphonium, canceling all existing votes and revealing fomar0153 as town.

Current vote count:
Demonlord5000(3): Cap_H, CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK, PlatinumAshes, Jeroen_Sol
PlatinumAshes(2): Cap_H, psy_wombats, demonlord5000
OzzyTheOne(0): demonlord5000
AlaskanEmily(0): CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to hammer.

oddRABBIT
I feel bored. How odd.
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Seriously, sorry about vanishing, yesterday was super busy for me. I had classes and several club meetings, and some big event at my college that I had to attend, not that I really paid attention to it.

Uh, about the votes, I'll probably just go with the majority, since, well. "I don't know". That's pretty much the way I act even if I'm town or scum, so I wouldn't think that to be a good reason to read me one way or the other.

Um, I guess I should make a list of who I think might be Mafia?

1. Jeroen_Sol. Just a gut feeling, really. Hasn't played for a bit I think? At least not the games I've been in. I don't really like that he voted me a while back in the day,

2. Demonlord: Once again, just gut instinct. Actually, all my bits of who I think are mafia are just slight feelings, so they can be ignored, I guess. Demonlord, in every game of mafia I've played with him, has always been town. It kinda bothers me that he hasn't been mafia yet, as far as I can remember.

I can't tell if Milk is Mafia or not, but he needs to speak up and put his opinion in. He's a very conservative mafia player, so while I kinda expected this from him, it'd be better if he spoke up and tried contributing a bit more information.
LockeZ
I'd really like to get rid of LockeZ. His play style is way too unpredictable. He's always like this too. If he ran a country, he'd just kill and imprison people at random until crime stopped.
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author=CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK
author=demonlord5000
Yeah I might as well. I'll be going to bed soon and I need to have a vote down. He was acting pretty suspiciously before that claim. One thing that's bothering me is that roles/items don't seem to be the same considering that tuba that spawned in. In which case why did ozzy claim to have a paper bag from the start?

#lynch ozzy
author=demonlord5000
I wouldn't normally do this but I'm going to sleep soon and I probably won't be back before the day ends. He's suspicious enough to warrant a vote at least.
scum. someone else make the case for me. nap time.


Yeah, uh. A player publicly proves someone's alignment, and demonlord claims they're scum and wants to lynch them because of made-up reasons. What a garbage suggestion. Also he's been acting weird all day and saying/doing things that make no sense. As several other people have pointed out.

Emily seems to have been helpful, logical, and sensible so far. She's on my town read list. Not sure why Cavedog thinks she's being weird. Maybe he's just trying to get a reaction. Maybe he's scum and is trying to get other people to make up the reasons for him by being vague. (I do still think Cave is town though)

#lynch demonlord5000

Even though I still think PlatinumAshes is suspicious too.
LockeZ
I'd really like to get rid of LockeZ. His play style is way too unpredictable. He's always like this too. If he ran a country, he'd just kill and imprison people at random until crime stopped.
5958
Oh, here's a less secretive reason why I think Cave is probably town.

author=CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK
author=LockeZ
OK. If this game works like the previous Spy vs. Spy Mafia (and the OP says it does), then scum don't know each-other's identities.
boy I sure do love playing "mafia" on rmn.


author=CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK
I'm going to say it. wtf is the each-other rule.


These posts look genuine to me. Like Cave had a sudden moment of frustration because he genuinely did not understand that the setup was weird before I said so. And then actually didn't know what this rule was a reference to.

For anyone who wants the full scoop, here is the link to when psy_wombats figured out I was scum in the first Spy vs. Mafia game because the double agent copied and pasted the entirety of scum chat into the main mafia thread, and even though we were using secret code names, psy figured out who I was because I hyphenated the word each-other.
I still can't believe I'm the only one not immediately whining about the bodyguard claim but w/e

Fomar, my impression is that it could have revealed agents yeah but I'm willing to take 50/50 gamble in a stacked game and the risk is negated if we spam the thing constantly and reveal /everyone's/ alignment
Will reread a bit but I have not gotten scumvibes from demon. He read Ozzy as "basically confirmed bodyguard" at some point which struck me as dumb, but town
author=psy_wombats
Fomar, my impression is that it could have revealed agents yeah but I'm willing to take 50/50 gamble in a stacked game and the risk is negated if we spam the thing constantly and reveal /everyone's/ alignment


Fairpoint but unfortunately it seems whomever has the trombone now isn't online or doesn't want to use it.

Knowing that the trombone is out there though does mean we should allow as much time as possible for it to be used again. I don't suppose there was a time limit on the trombone before it would be passed on anyway?
AE is still near top for me in AE/demon/PA/odd. On the other hand PA was the first to post big readlist and this is a proven Thing for scum. For Odd showing up and hedging is not exactly what I'd want to see but I don't really scumread him and murdering him gives little info.

I will be around at deadline to switch as needed and to hopefully prevent dumb ninja tricks because we're not going to hammer looks like.

For town reads I have cap and lockez.
I figure trombone is in scum hands now. Town strategy should be to spam it
pianotm
The TM is for Totally Magical.
32388
3 hours until end of day.

Psy-wombats has used the Euphonium, canceling all existing votes and revealing fomar0153 as town.

Current vote count:
Demonlord5000(4): Cap_H, CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK, PlatinumAshes, Jeroen_Sol, LockeZ
PlatinumAshes(2): Cap_H, psy_wombats, demonlord5000
OzzyTheOne(0): demonlord5000
AlaskanEmily(0): CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to hammer.

Jeroen_Sol
Nothing reveals Humanity so well as the games it plays. A game of betrayal, where the most suspicious person is brutally murdered? How savage.
3885
I was about to stress over there only being 3 hours left, but then I remembered plurality lynching is in effect.

I'd prefer a hammer for vote analysis though.

author=oddRABBIT
Uh, about the votes, I'll probably just go with the majority, since, well. "I don't know". That's pretty much the way I act even if I'm town or scum, so I wouldn't think that to be a good reason to read me one way or the other.


Why are you self-conscious about how you are read?
PlatinumAshes
I am now certain that you are not scum and are just town trying to play scum as hard as possible.
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The trombone is probably still on cooldown. I presume it will show up midway through D2, as it did on this day.

Did you target Fomar with it yourself, PSY, or was it random?
Rereading I'll take demon over AE, actually - he backed up the ozzyclaim and all his reads are neutral-scum
The targeting was random. If there was a cool down on the trombone it was not made clear to me.