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[MAFIA] GAME OVER - FREQUENCY MAFIA

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oddRABBIT
I feel bored. How odd.
1979
OFFICIAL VOTE COUNT AS OF 2019-09-30, 15:00 UTC

Fomar0153 (3): pianotm, demonlord5000*, ESBY,Liberty, Cap_H, Hexatona, (Liberty, Liberty)**, Frogge, pianotm, Fomar0153, Hexatona, pianotm
Gourd_Clae (2): Frogge, Frogge, Fomar0153, Cap_H, Frogge
psy_wombats (0): Cap_H
Liberty (1): psy_wombats, Gourd_Clae
Frogge (0): Fomar0153
CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK (0): pianotm

Not voting (5): CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK, psy_wombats, ESBY, Hexatona, demonlord5000

*In earlier versions of this votecount, this vote still existed because Jeroen missed the cancel since it was not bolded.
**Liberty cancelled her Fomar vote only to put it right back on.

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to hammer.

Day 2 will end in 9 hours, or when hammer is reached.

Hexatona
JESEUS MIMLLION SPOLERS
3702
author=psy_wombats
Yeah it exists but I've never seen it on RMN and that's more of a crack theory than something I'd want to take action against. It's mostly still just killing Ozzy and leaving Hex just seems like a really bad move for scum that I have trouble believing it was intentional.


I mean, they could have just avoided me to not waste a kill, in case there was shenanigans protecting me.

Cap, what's w/w, you've said it a few times.
Hexatona
JESEUS MIMLLION SPOLERS
3702
And that was going to be my second question before I fell asleep, if had ever been on rmn. I hadn't thought it was, so, I'm just going to assuming that it's not that.
Frogge
I wanna marry ALL the boys!! And Donna is a meanc
18995
Okay i'm changing my mind again, I'm starting to agree that my ability is kinda useless and just confusing so I'm gonna go based on behaviour over soft evidence (as Cave so desperately wants too) and switch back to Fomar

#cancel
#lynch Fomar
Cap_H
DIGITAL IDENTITY CRISIS
6625
wolf/wolf

Sorry for my poor posting today so far I've been mobile.
Cap_H
DIGITAL IDENTITY CRISIS
6625
Self-voting on its own was nai (not alignment indicative) but him basically giving up on posting is a bad look. Also, I didn't defend Fomar, the Lynch just felt bad at that point, especially because I missed some of the information hexa-wise. Ofc hexa having a mason chat with Frogge changes circumstances of that hammer.

I feel like Cave has changed the beat again. These last posts he made are manipulative by my reckoning. Also, I think he stopped directly considering Gourd Lynch at some point. I'm worried.
There's always at least one scum in Liberty/Psy/Cave. I can imagine one reason for scum Liberty to claim net, Gourd discovered she's not town, some pretty good evidence and she decided to create this persona. I need to read the log to see if it's a possibility. Her claim sounds real otherwise.
Piano increasingly reads as pure town and he is green.
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I'll post more when I get to computer and finally read through Gourd and Fomar.
I outed myself to him as non-town so that theory falls through.
Cap_H
DIGITAL IDENTITY CRISIS
6625
Ok, then. It's between Psy and Cave, then.
My phone posting is just as painful to type up. Posts that would normally take me 2 seconds to type up became like 5 mins. Good news is it's almost fixed, kept running into hiccups. I should have it working by d3.

Those hex/liberty posts are quite detailed and I still need to take a closer look at them. I'm also starting to think fomar gave up because I expected him to post by now. Going back to reread now.
CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK
On sunny days, I go out walking
1142
I feel like Cave has changed the beat again. These last posts he made are manipulative by my reckoning. Also, I think he stopped directly considering Gourd Lynch at some point. I'm worried.


looking forward to an actual case on me

I gave a pretty clear reason as to why I think killing gourd is a bad idea.

honestly i don't buy gourd just. giving details about the scumteam's makeup to a random person, as scum. i feel like that's something people are skipping over. his explanation (that he was told he could block the nightkill) also sounded good to me, because a lot of rmn games don't have a specific person 'perform' the nightkill for some reason.
Gourd looks more town to me between hex analysis and the fact I don't think scum would have shared that mafia head tidbit.

Between cap and psy, I'll reread them. I didn't like his gourd vote theory earlier due to vote count, need to reread newer stuff.
author=CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK
author=Fomar0153
author=Cap_H
Gourd considered using it on you. If he were town, why would he be considering blocking a self-resolving claim at all?
When I said this, no one took any notice.

It seems the only way for me to prove everything I've said is for me to die and have my role revealed. So be it.

#cancel
#lynch Fomar0153
author=Fomar0153
Just got messaged by Odd on discord to tell me I'm not dead. Will read and catch up.


what exactly changed here


fomar, who's scum.


Well I came back saw hammer and then stopped checking rmn, I made reference to being dead on discord and then odd messaged me.

Reading through everything now.
Not seeing much from cap, but psys newer stuff looks fine to me. I could go either way here.

As for cave. he was the one to go on the air and tell at them to stop the broadcasts. I don't think we should ignore it like cave was calling for, but I don't think we should be relying on it either. It's also possible scum is using my mafia had a way to get the broadcast theory to try and cover themselves. We wont know for sure until flips though.
author=CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK
don't kill fomar until he gives out a scum list or something.


I already played your game and gave my list, will update once I've read everything.
author=Fomar0153
Ignoring the broadcast stuff but not ignoring things like the fact I know I was role blocked: Gourd (who might be lying about being the role blocker, but there is definitely one on his team), after that it depends on who I believe Libby or Piano and Hexatona.

Given that attempted hammer and that I really didn't think Libby was scum before this broadcast stuff. I would choose Hexatona and Frogge as bullets two and three.

Now back to remembering this broadcast nightmare.
I'm going to go back and check when Hexatona declared that Piano was town. Was it before or after Piano confirmed he got the broadcast?
author=Liberty
Post 7 - L
- Ask why Gourd didn't call out Fomar for claiming a Hacker role, say I have a few questions and that I'll answer them too as a show of good faith. Ask role particulars and alignment, tell Gourd my role and alignment. Tell him I have a deal - that I want town to win and that I would have talked to cave instead but that I didn't trust him not to play funny buggers because cave. Say if he's mafia I'm probably boned.

This is about the only town tell this day on Gourd for me, no scum would have trusted Libby however if there is a godfather maybe he didn't agree.
author=Liberty
Post 15 - G
Asks me who I think he should target. Lists possible power roles. Myself, Hex, Fomar and himself are named. (No mention of Frogge.)

Interesting two options, maybe Gourd found out about the broadcast later from the scum chat, or two did the broadcast happen after your interview?
author=Liberty
Post 18 - G
Suspicious of Hex, is pretty sure one of either Fomar or Hex are mafia but that Fomar seems innocent to him. Thinks Fomar being new is a good enough excuse. Thinks Hex is scummy because of math talk, not actively hunting and the timing of his role claim.

I find it weird that most of what he said about Hex applies to me but he thinks I'm town (or did for the sake of your interview) and Hex who claimed a strictly town role is the scummier one. But then he role blocked me and has scum hunted me all day. Doesn't add up to me.
author=oddRABBIT
OFFICIAL VOTE COUNT AS OF 2019-09-30, 15:00 UTC

Fomar0153 (3): pianotm, demonlord5000*, ESBY,Liberty, Cap_H, Hexatona, (Liberty, Liberty)**, Frogge,
Frogge (1): Fomar0153



I cancelled my vote on Frogge when I voted for myself.
CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK
On sunny days, I go out walking
1142
this execution seems weird
author=Cap_H
but him basically giving up on posting is a bad look.


Obviously I spoilt you with being able to check RMN 12-14 hours a day at the weekend.

I stopped checking shortly after this post so that I could get ready/go to bed:
https://rpgmaker.net/forums/topics/24770/?post=892997#post892997

So say 10:15pmish was the last time I checked RMN.
Then allow me to sleep and go to work, I am not getting up early to read potentially hundreds of posts and respond.
My first post today was 6:09pm, today was busier for me. Usually I'm around from 4:30ish pm.
I warned when I first signed up that I wouldn't be as active now the holidays are over:
https://rpgmaker.net/forums/topics/24770/?post=891141#post891141

Also complaining about my levels of activity is rich coming from you. You're barely here, don't bother to read everything, and post only ideas that have already come up.
author=CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK
this execution seems weird


You mean me not combining them into one post?

First one was on an iPad where I can't just flick between tabs and not lose the posts I'm working on.

The third one about the vote was because I noticed it after my second post. I figured being as it was vote stuff I should leave it in it's own post so that Odd is more likely to see it.