WHAT ANNOYS YOU IN A GAME?

author=Max link=topic=2479.msg47660#msg47660 date=1227903361
Really, really disagree with harmonic. I think that making sure your items are not named after the items in Final Fantasy is sort of a prerequisite for your game not being retarded. In other words, I agree with Saedom.

author=Max McGee link=topic=2479.msg52263#msg52263 date=1230105729
You better not be referring to my game because it is not a fucking Fallout clone, in fact, Fallout is just a Wasteland clone and my game is closer to Cormac McCarthy's The Road than Falllout.

author=Clest link=topic=2479.msg45321#msg45321 date=1227020334
-I hate leveling, not just is it annoying that in most cases even with the best strategy you still need level to have CHANCE against some enemy, but also if you go and fight to your heart´s content you may end up overlevel and own enemies too easily. It also gives a chance for dumb ppl to claim "I finished X ultra hard RPG, I am very good gamer!" when all they did was sit pressing attack button while their mind was somewhere else.

Only excetion is when you use exp to customize your character in irreversible ways to the point where a bad build/skill choice might fuck you up for good, as long as there is a "good build" for each kind of player.

-I HATE equipment upgrading (maybe even more than leveling) because most of the time you just get to a new town and you get to check shops and you barely has a choice: you just buy the next most powerful thing of each equipmnent for each character, which is just a mindless chore, then you have to sell the old stuff back. On top of that, whenever there is an equip with a special property (inflict/resist status/element) said item will soon be outdated in favour of something which is overal better. So where is the strategy in chosing equipment? Also no, a steel sword won´t cut meat 200x more than Iron one, it may just take longer to break clashing against bones/armor.

I want to go to an equip store and just find different brands of balanced itens to buy according the different needs. Maybe an armor which gives +10 Defense then an armor which gives +7 defense but +3 agility or other which gives +2 defense but makes me VERY resistant to ice.

-I hate the classic predictable and very artificial RPG flow where you go to town, buy stuff, talk to NPCs, then walk on map, reach dungeon, fight ramdom monsters, kill boss then town again... It is sick :P Every hell hole shitty cavern has a damn boss, every town sells every equip your party needs and NPCs only give you the info you want or ramdom one line stuff about their lame artificial lives. Also dungeons follow an incredibly predictable architeture to the point I always know which way to go for loot and to find the boss.

I think we need more vilages being raid, more safe camp spots and meeting other adventurers/soldiers in dungeons, bosses which appear in unexpected places and dungeons which... oh no boss there :O

-I usually hate last dungeons: If the game is bad I know the ending already and I will be too lazy to level up for the most dificult and probably boring dungeon.

If game is good I may just get depressed that my wonderful adventure is going to end...

Best ways to solve this: Don´t let me know it is the last dungeon, make previous dungeons seem like they would be the last to the point I stop believing when characters say "this will be our last battle" and of course, store a lot of unsolved things for the end and let them all hanging for the whole game, the ending is the time for answers, not before the last dungeons as Square loves to do. If I have all the answers I can basically predict the ending.

-I hate looong walks though empty spaces, ramdom encounters just make it worse

-I hate ramdom encounters, I can play games with that, but I´d rather have everything touch based.

-I hate pure healers/pacifist characters, if you can´t at least kill something, stay in your church/hospital and let the brave ppl do the dirty job you sissy cowards. Death to White Mages.

-I hate when everything depends on kids/teenagers. I don´t mind some young heroes here and there, but decisions should be made by adults, the older and more experienced the better.

--I hate the platonic relationships involving the dumb/shy/cold hero and the shy/avoidant/religious girl which stay just indirect until the end and stays like that. No kisses, hugs, marriage, sex, no concrete relationship, nothing, just shitty anime cliched insituations of interest. Better make everyone just friends than that.

-I hate when the villain feels more right to my ideals than the hero, or more developed, this makes me think I am playing the wrong side. It almost made me quit playing Tales of Phantasia and when I beat it I was still hating Cless for his stupidity.

-I hate having a specific main hero in a party who I can´t relate to (most of the time I relate to the older experienced character/mentor ) but is there and I can´t dismiss to put on a better/more interesting character. And even when I can, the hero is the best playable character which is still not fair. FF6 was the only game that handled this issue perfectly. I wonder why in hell it was not done again (it should become a fucking LAW :P). I don´t mind any of that with single heroes (Link, Alundra, Slade (IGV), neither with small parties (Wild Arms).

-I hate having battles in puxzle areas, I want to either fight or solve a puzzle.

-I HATE HATE HATE when story and game mechanics clash, it is not hard at all to at least deceive the player into thinking things work the same in and out of battles and Phantasy Star IV is there to show proof. If something kills a character outside battle the rest of the party should try to use regular means to revive/heal the fallen friend and if it doesn´t work I want an explation of how come someone can endure NUKES but dies by a regular sword hit. Was the blade poisoned? did it has any magic to it? Even if the characters are not sure, they should be surprised and concerned because it was something different than what happens REGULARLY in battle :P

-As Suzu, I hate repeition, staying in the same area, fight the same enemies with the same skills... boring

-I hate the anti ecologic monster devastation in RPGs, no matter how furry and defenseless a monster is it will attack you or you are able to attack it, even if your characters claim to be fighting for nature, life and good. Pitting monsters to fighting arenas is just as cruel. I could see an amoral hero doing those things, but not your typical jRPG hero.

I think humans are far better "monsters" since most of the time, we have more conscience of what we do, so when we fight someone, it is instinct and if villain human goes against me I do have A LOT of pleasure giving then some bloody pain and tormenting death :P

Well there is probably more... :P

author=harmonic link=topic=2479.msg52258#msg52258 date=1230103478
What I meant was that merely renaming items that do the exact same thing isn't something that should be considered "cool." Like phoenix down -> healing sandwich. It just adds another step to the player's learning curve. Of course, it is possible to rename something in a way that makes it universally and immediately known exactly what the item does, but I was using the FF names as an example of easy communication of an item's function.

author=drakiyth link=topic=2479.msg52281#msg52281 date=1230116036
Aftermath does.

Just because it's post nuclear or post apocalyptic does not make it a fallout clone.
There is a lot of games and movies based in a post nuclear world before fallout 1 even launched. Mad Max might ring a bell.


Also, not caring for Fallout 3 just shows you're pretty square. That's one of the best games ever made.



Slamming me and Max is pretty childish.

author=DE link=topic=2479.msg52324#msg52324 date=1230139644
I agree with Brandon on the topic of misogyny in jRPGs, and also in the context of anime.

99% of Japanese pop creations present women as either big-boobied, scantily clad whores, or big-boobied, scantily clad virgins, or big-boobied, scantily clad androgynes (preferably military types). Do you see a pattern here?

This is seriously infuriating. I'm not a feminist or something, but I crave (nice choice of words here) NORMAL, perfectly normal women in games. Not those archetypes listed above. Is that so much to expect from Japanese writers?

But I guess it's a part of a broader issue of inane, juvenile scripts catering to sixteen year olds.

Oh, those Japs and their sex fetishes! ^o^

author=Nightblade link=topic=2479.msg52326#msg52326 date=1230139747
Though, I'm pretty sure American made games have the same problems.