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Gourd_Clae
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Closeslowly collecting my thoughts on who i think I least suspcious based on what happened yesterday and I'll post it soon!
demonlord5000
680
Nailed it. I thought Hachi's prices had been unusually high lately. We need to avenge the real Hachi.
Sucks that we lost a power role, but we also hit a scum power role which helped even it out.
Anyone who didn't even attempt to contribute d1 is on my list. Ozzy/Shinan/Tale. It can't be so obvious that scum were voting the same target thought right? That feels too easy.
Do we think scum is somewhere in the eggbert votes? That would be the ideal place to hide, but I didn't get any negative opinions from Gourds or Emilys posts. Psy was a bit on the fence on the eggbert vote, but he also helped hammer.
The fact that Fomar was killed makes me want to say maybe not Shinan which leave us with tale or ozzy, and ozzy was the one not voting for Shinan.
Sucks that we lost a power role, but we also hit a scum power role which helped even it out.
Anyone who didn't even attempt to contribute d1 is on my list. Ozzy/Shinan/Tale. It can't be so obvious that scum were voting the same target thought right? That feels too easy.
Do we think scum is somewhere in the eggbert votes? That would be the ideal place to hide, but I didn't get any negative opinions from Gourds or Emilys posts. Psy was a bit on the fence on the eggbert vote, but he also helped hammer.
The fact that Fomar was killed makes me want to say maybe not Shinan which leave us with tale or ozzy, and ozzy was the one not voting for Shinan.
demonlord5000
680
Reading back a bit, I noticed Emily didn't post any opinions about eggerts post prior to joining the train. Not sure if that's anything or not.
psy_wombats
13315
IMO, anyone who was on the Eggbert train early is not suspicious (demonlord5000, Gourd_Clae, AlaskanEmily). And Fomar, obviously. I was kind of hoping I got nightkilled because out of all the people on that vote, I probably look the worst.
I would've thought the scum play yesterday would've been to try to put Shinan under the axe instead of Eggbert. Both me and Fomar preferred Shinan to Eggbert and (at least speaking for myself) would've switched votes. But as Eggbert was already on that train, maybe their scumbuddy didn't want to push it as well? Or maybe the scumbuddy is actually Shinan.
I would've thought the scum play yesterday would've been to try to put Shinan under the axe instead of Eggbert. Both me and Fomar preferred Shinan to Eggbert and (at least speaking for myself) would've switched votes. But as Eggbert was already on that train, maybe their scumbuddy didn't want to push it as well? Or maybe the scumbuddy is actually Shinan.
AlaskanEmily
561
This is why you always ignore Liberty and lynch D1. Also didn't we get a scum lynch D1 before, when I ran sheriff mafia?
The Eggbert votes pretty much are the "who was around D1" list though. Though (meta warning) I would consider this a normal amount of input from Shinan. I would like to hear more from Tale and Ozzy at least. And maybe lynch Shinan because that would be too easy for him if he was scum :X
So I guess I would lean towards someone who hasn't posted a lot, given that everyone who did post showed up to just barely cause the lynch to happen.
The Eggbert votes pretty much are the "who was around D1" list though. Though (meta warning) I would consider this a normal amount of input from Shinan. I would like to hear more from Tale and Ozzy at least. And maybe lynch Shinan because that would be too easy for him if he was scum :X
So I guess I would lean towards someone who hasn't posted a lot, given that everyone who did post showed up to just barely cause the lynch to happen.
AlaskanEmily
561
author=psy_wombats
IMO, anyone who was on the Eggbert train early is not suspicious (demonlord5000, Gourd_Clae, AlaskanEmily). And Fomar, obviously. I was kind of hoping I got nightkilled because out of all the people on that vote, I probably look the worst.
Also being honest, this has crossed my mind. I can imagine scum being in a hard position after failing to split the vote between Eggbert and Shinan, but still revealing they are around near end of day and not wanting to clearly stand in the way of the lynch.
But thinking more about it, pretending to be AFK wouldn't have been super hard to do to avoid delivering the hammer, given how close it was on time (we actually went like an hour overtime, didn't we?). So I'm inclined to think that the hammer would have been unnecessary for scum, and the benefit would be not lynching D1 and specifically not lynching scumbuddy. So I think Psy is OK.
Shinan
4314
What is a janitor and what is a tracker? Do I have to google werewolf roles?
I barely know the ones that are in Ultimate Werewolf :D
I have to admit I was going to go with fomar today but since they're dead I sort of don't know what to do.
I barely know the ones that are in Ultimate Werewolf :D
I have to admit I was going to go with fomar today but since they're dead I sort of don't know what to do.
Okay I lied I have not gathered my thoughts they're kind of scattered. Guess all I have are vibes!
How about this? I'll ramble some thoughts for each person then throw that in a spoiler tag, give a short summary and conclusion on that person, and I'll rank everyone from most innocent to evil scourge of the land.
The List(tm):
Emily is town afaic. She was on eggbert early and he would not have been lynched otherwise.
Demonlord seems to be town also. He was the first to vote for eggbert, and basically led town to kill him. He's done great scumhunting so far!
Psy seems like a townie to me, but day 1 was kind of messy for him. He wanted to kill someone other than the scum we eventually landed on. In the end, he hammered when he didn't have to do so. I trust him, currently.
shinan doesn't read as anything me! Such is the way of the shinan.
Ozzy doesn't really read like anything to me, either. HE did what everybody else did d1 just, like, less of it so I only really want to hear more from him. Tell me your thoughts, Mr Ozzy. Why do you think scum killed who they did? who do you think looks suspicious today?
Tale looks the worst to me, honestly. It's mostly my gut, from day 1. I would also like to hear from tale. Who seems suspicious today? Why do you think scum killed fomar?
How about this? I'll ramble some thoughts for each person then throw that in a spoiler tag, give a short summary and conclusion on that person, and I'll rank everyone from most innocent to evil scourge of the land.
The List(tm):
Emily is town afaic. She was on eggbert early and he would not have been lynched otherwise.
I, like, don't love the idea of going after somebody who is quiet because that gives us very little information and is a good way to lead town toward a mislynch as mafia. Could be scum? But, I can understand the logic behind that with emily as a townie as well. Besides, the people I'm most suspicous of also happen to be quiet, even if it's a coincidence in my case. Not really interested in pursuing her as scum today. She helped lynched eggbert early when she didn't have to do so. Today she is actively scumhunting.
Demonlord seems to be town also. He was the first to vote for eggbert, and basically led town to kill him. He's done great scumhunting so far!
I feel like I never have a good read on him when I play with him. He is very helpful and active, when he's evil it's always a surprised. That;s meta though, in this game he;s been great. I do like that he's putting out theories and clearly taking time to actively scumhunt. There is a part of me that bristles at the suggestion of looking at the people who killed eggbert day 1, but since demon was in that list I'm sure it's probably not scum trying to kill townies who did well day 1. Very helpful member of the game it seems, so not really interested in pursuing him.
Psy seems like a townie to me, but day 1 was kind of messy for him. He wanted to kill someone other than the scum we eventually landed on. In the end, he hammered when he didn't have to do so. I trust him, currently.
I don't think psy is suspicious at the moment even though he's arguably the least innocent looking of the people who voted for eggbert. The desire to kill shinan first is pretty messy lmao. emily makes a good point that pretending to be afk was very much an option - and in my opinion the better option for psy if they were scum. Losing your scumbuddy (of which I'd assume there is two - max three) day 1 is a pretty big disadvantage and loss of time. I guess it's possible eggbert told psy to do him in because he got busy with irl things he mentioned day 1. In which case, it might have been the play that leaves psy in the best position while not being rude to the other players by keeping a player around who doesn't have much time. That assumes a lot though. I'm not super interested in pursuing psy today, at the very least.
shinan doesn't read as anything me! Such is the way of the shinan.
Ozzy doesn't really read like anything to me, either. HE did what everybody else did d1 just, like, less of it so I only really want to hear more from him. Tell me your thoughts, Mr Ozzy. Why do you think scum killed who they did? who do you think looks suspicious today?
Tale looks the worst to me, honestly. It's mostly my gut, from day 1. I would also like to hear from tale. Who seems suspicious today? Why do you think scum killed fomar?
My gut feeling immediately had me on both tale and eggbert at the same time for similar reasons. It's true tale looked better bc they were only the second vote on shinan, but the multiple people stacking up on shinan in the first place is what initially alarmed me. Eggbert may have felt safe following a scumbuddy on the train.
Sorry for my absence, I voted myself in jest and then kinda forgot about the game, I'm glad though that we managed to hit scum! Good work on that everyone. As for what I have to contribute, I have two main suspects.
Tale: I suspect tale simply because his reasoning to vote on Shinan's obvious joke vote against me seemed to be with genuine intent and not a joke? Looks scummy to me.
Psy: I suspect psy because his reasoning for not thinking eggbert was scummy is flimsy, I think DemonLord and AlaskanEmily had good reasons to suspect eggbert, and psy calling them bad reasonings sounds like trying to discredit good arguments.
And with that
#vote psy_wombats
Tale: I suspect tale simply because his reasoning to vote on Shinan's obvious joke vote against me seemed to be with genuine intent and not a joke? Looks scummy to me.
Psy: I suspect psy because his reasoning for not thinking eggbert was scummy is flimsy, I think DemonLord and AlaskanEmily had good reasons to suspect eggbert, and psy calling them bad reasonings sounds like trying to discredit good arguments.
And with that
#vote psy_wombats
As for why Fomar got killed, my paranoid mind tells me Shinan did it to use reverse psychology to get us off his case, but more rational me says it could've been Psy because he knows how Fomar ends up coming in clutch with maths, facts and logic the longer he lives. Though, me suspecting psy of killing Fomar is absolutely just a hunch and has little substance. I wouldn't really know how else to rationalize Fomar's death beyond it just having been random.
psy_wombats
13315
author=OzzyTheOne
Psy: I suspect psy because his reasoning for not thinking eggbert was scummy is flimsy, I think DemonLord and AlaskanEmily had good reasons to suspect eggbert, and psy calling them bad reasonings sounds like trying to discredit good arguments.
I stand by my reasoning -- people who claim to have a good read on d1 are usually full of it. (although I did miss that vote put Shinan at 3 and not 2.) If those arguments were so compelling though, you could've voted yourself y'know
Fomar is dead because he was the towniest-looking person alive. He appeared out of nowhere at the end of the day, swapped his vote, and helped secure the kill. If no one had responded to me, we wouldn't have been able to do anything.
You're right, I could've voted, but as I said, I had totally forgotten about the game after my initial joke vote on myself. And that is why you believe Fomar got killed? Becaue he was the towniest town around?
psy_wombats
13315
Also I take back what I said about Shinan possibly being the other scumbuddy -- no way Eggbert votes to put their buddy at 3 on D1. That would leave me with just tale and ozzy as suspects.
tale's posting sequence yesterday looks like 1. put vote on Shinan 2. remove vote from Shinan after Gourd sounds the alarm 3. clarify they were joking about Shinan. That reads neutral to town (if they wanted to avoid being on a train with a vote they didn't consider).
iirc reasoning about jokeposts is a very tale thing, and not really indicative of anything one way or another.
Janitor hides the identity of someone who dies at night, and a tracker learns if someone performs a night action. Not very relevant now that they're both dead though
tale's posting sequence yesterday looks like 1. put vote on Shinan 2. remove vote from Shinan after Gourd sounds the alarm 3. clarify they were joking about Shinan. That reads neutral to town (if they wanted to avoid being on a train with a vote they didn't consider).
author=OzzyTheOne
Tale: I suspect tale simply because his reasoning to vote on Shinan's obvious joke vote against me seemed to be with genuine intent and not a joke? Looks scummy to me.
iirc reasoning about jokeposts is a very tale thing, and not really indicative of anything one way or another.
author=Shinan
What is a janitor and what is a tracker? Do I have to google werewolf roles?
I barely know the ones that are in Ultimate Werewolf :D
Janitor hides the identity of someone who dies at night, and a tracker learns if someone performs a night action. Not very relevant now that they're both dead though
psy_wombats
13315
author=OzzyTheOne
You're right, I could've voted, but as I said, I had totally forgotten about the game after my initial joke vote on myself. And that is why you believe Fomar got killed? Becaue he was the towniest town around?
Yeah it seems pretty clear to me. Unless they had some N0 investigation power and found he was a PR, which seems kind of out there.
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psy_wombats (1): OzzyTheOne
Not voting: everyone else
You have roughly 24 hours and 30 minutes left.
I don't know why fomar was chosen for Night 1. I haven't been active lately due to handling chores.
Psy sums up my posting sequence quite well. Anyway I'm not sure who's suspicious atm..
Psy sums up my posting sequence quite well. Anyway I'm not sure who's suspicious atm..
