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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiple_discovery
i find it very easy to believe that they simply went with what was a good idea
(on a semi-related note i learned today that into the 2000s the computers on the space shuttles used DOS. this rules)
i find it very easy to believe that they simply went with what was a good idea
(on a semi-related note i learned today that into the 2000s the computers on the space shuttles used DOS. this rules)
uh
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post=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PARC_%28company%29#Adoption_by_Apple
The first successful commercial GUI product was the Apple Macintosh, which was heavily inspired by PARC's work; Xerox was allowed to buy pre-IPO stock from Apple in exchange for engineer visits and an understanding that Apple would create a GUI product. Much later, in the midst of the Apple v. Microsoft lawsuit in which Apple accused Microsoft of violating its copyright by appropriating the use of the "look and feel" of the Macintosh GUI, Xerox also sued Apple on the same grounds. The lawsuit was dismissed because Xerox had waited too long to file suit, and the statute of limitations had expired.
Not trying to be a pedant about it just this is one of the greatest misconceptions about the history of desktop computing and like most of the chants endlessly repeated by the "fuck M$" bandwagoneers isn't grounded in fact. FTR I'm not the biggest Microsoft fan either but they've made a lot possible for all of us :p
also this guy is one of my greatest nerd heroes and I want him to get his props in the nerdosphere
/me stops derailing
I play with win7 once in a while (especially as it updates) to see how it runs various bits of software, I have to say I was surprised even early on how many newer games it could run without issues, but I play so many older games/use so much old software that for right now, Vista is what I feel safe working with and even that is a pain in the ass sometimes compared to XP :x
I'm running windows 7 ultimate x64 and I haven't had any problems with it.
well, I did have an issue where the computer will start randomly skipping frames, and the sound will skip and jump when it does it. but this only happens after it's been on for many weeks, without a reboot. also, end tasking msn messenger seems to fix it, so it's probably unrelated to windows 7 at all.
well, I did have an issue where the computer will start randomly skipping frames, and the sound will skip and jump when it does it. but this only happens after it's been on for many weeks, without a reboot. also, end tasking msn messenger seems to fix it, so it's probably unrelated to windows 7 at all.
Izazie
262
post=120190post=120109not if you use a virtual machine, it creates a virtual hard drive as a file on your existing hard drive. the virtual hard drive also has a rolling storage capacity, meaning instead of being a full-size hard drive it will only be as large as the files present on it.post=120106Even if I got one, I would have to part my HD, what I already did in the past with all the the problems that it implies.
you would have to get a pirate copy of XP, but by their nature they're free and widely available if you know where to look ;)
I could try, if can legally put my hands on a version of WinXP Pro... ;)
post=120253
I have grown fond of how reliable XP is. So instead of upgrading to a newer operating system, I've used Virtualbox's support for 64-bit guest OSs in a 32-bit host for the past two years.
edit: i.e. virtualization is the solution to 67.345% of everything
You should grab yourself a Linux distro just as backup (I like Ubuntu myself). You can boot up and run the entire OS off a CD/USB Stick without installing anything. It won't save you from Windows crapping out, but handy to have around if Windows does get to a point it can't boot. You can boot entirely into Linux off the CD/USB, and access the hard-drive to backup files or whatever before formatting and reinstalling Windows. I've saved several friends stuff with it.
I will try...but if everything else fails.
First, W7 was pre-installed on this new comp, so I don't have the CD to re-install Windows if I do something wrong, or if I get as many error messages as I got from Linux when I tried to run it alongside with Windows Millenium.
Moreover, Windows 7 is a paying software. It has to work, and any problem youencounter with must have a solution, otherwise it's a mere hoax.
post=120129
Extract this to the folder of an RMXP game that doesn't work and change Game.ini to use this RGSS dll.This is what worked when XP and Vista decided to hate each other and I'm curious if this let's you play the games that doesn't work.
Also can you open the XP/VX editors at all?
I did...and it just told me that the thing was extracted, don't remember the exact words. the I opened the game (Phylomortis) and guess what? Rgss not working.
But there are probably other details to be changed (RTP1= standard, for example? )
I don't know anything about game making though, so I can't answer you properly. Maybe I will pm you about it for more details (I don't even know if I made things the right way.)
I will try to find time and post screenshots, so that you can see what it did. Thanks a lot for the suggestion! :)
post=120226
To elaborate a bit, I'm just venting because you hear this crap everywhere someone is asking for help.
"Help, I just installed Windows 7 on a brand new hard drive. I did everything including doing a thorough SMART scan on the drive, and did research to ensure all of my components ar..."
"WELL IT WORKS FINE FOR ME WINDOWS SEVEN IS THE BEST"
Thanks, Nightblade. I was not offended by those reactions, you know. In the contrary I'm quite happy to know that some people have no problems at all.
In an other hand ...well, I can't be happy that you encountered the same bugs I had, but at least it reassures me as a sign that all those problems are not due to my clumsiness.
Windows 7 doesn't show the files extensions by default. If I ask the system to show them, it will make the comp freeze next time I want to switch it on or out,
When I remove the admin's account then some programs will merely not be launched.
When I have to leave the comp before I entered the Admin's password then the comp freezes.
"Please wait before switching off your machine, Windows will install 32 768 important updates" (sic)
Want more? :P
post=120220post=120217
I don't know how to solve the problems you're having, but if I were you I would just switch back to Windows XP if possible. Way I figure none of the new stuff Windows 7 offers is worth the headaches it seems to be causing you.post=120338
XP == old software for old hardware.
Win7 == new software for new hardware.
Don't expect the latest to run on the oldest.
Well, one of my purposes when I made this topic, was to warn game makers that there was a huge problem there.
RM2k and RM2K3 games work fine with Windows 7.
Some RMVX and most RMXP don't, though those RM programs are more recent...
post=120839
I'm running windows 7 ultimate x64 and I haven't had any problems with it.
well, I did have an issue where the computer will start randomly skipping frames, and the sound will skip and jump when it does it. but this only happens after it's been on for many weeks, without a reboot. also, end tasking msn messenger seems to fix it, so it's probably unrelated to windows 7 at all.
You said THE master word: Windows 7 ultimate. Mine is just "home edition premium". The fact that I encounter problems and you don't is a pure effect of chance, no doubt... :P
If it had been me, I wouldn't have switched to Windows 7 till it was completely bug free and safe. But W7 will eventually become THE prominent operating system, and softwares will be made for this version. So better get used to it as soon as possible. *sigh*
Anyway thankss a lot everybody for your comments and suggestions.
Izazie
262
post=120937post=120190I could try, if can legally put my hands on a version of WinXP Pro... ;)post=120109not if you use a virtual machine, it creates a virtual hard drive as a file on your existing hard drive. the virtual hard drive also has a rolling storage capacity, meaning instead of being a full-size hard drive it will only be as large as the files present on it.post=120106Even if I got one, I would have to part my HD, what I already did in the past with all the the problems that it implies.
you would have to get a pirate copy of XP, but by their nature they're free and widely available if you know where to look ;)
post=120253
I have grown fond of how reliable XP is. So instead of upgrading to a newer operating system, I've used Virtualbox's support for 64-bit guest OSs in a 32-bit host for the past two years.
edit: i.e. virtualization is the solution to 67.345% of everything
post=120216
You should grab yourself a Linux distro just as backup (I like Ubuntu myself). You can boot up and run the entire OS off a CD/USB Stick without installing anything. It won't save you from Windows crapping out, but handy to have around if Windows does get to a point it can't boot. You can boot entirely into Linux off the CD/USB, and access the hard-drive to backup files or whatever before formatting and reinstalling Windows. I've saved several friends stuff with it.
I will try...but if everything else fails.
First, W7 was pre-installed on this new comp, so I don't have the CD to re-install Windows if I do something wrong, or if I get as many error messages as I got from Linux when I tried to run it alongside with Windows Millenium.
Moreover, Windows 7 is a paying software. It has to work, and any problem youencounter with must have a solution, otherwise it's a mere hoax.
post=120129
Extract this to the folder of an RMXP game that doesn't work and change Game.ini to use this RGSS dll.This is what worked when XP and Vista decided to hate each other and I'm curious if this let's you play the games that doesn't work.
Also can you open the XP/VX editors at all?
I did...and it just told me that the thing was extracted, don't remember the exact words. the I opened the game (Phylomortis) and guess what? Rgss not working.
But there are probably other details to be changed (RTP1= standard, for example? )
I don't know anything about game making though, so I can't answer you properly. Maybe I will pm you about it for more details (I don't even know if I made things the right way.)
I will try to find time and post screenshots, so that you can see what it did. Thanks a lot for the suggestion! :)
post=120226
To elaborate a bit, I'm just venting because you hear this crap everywhere someone is asking for help.
"Help, I just installed Windows 7 on a brand new hard drive. I did everything including doing a thorough SMART scan on the drive, and did research to ensure all of my components ar..."
"WELL IT WORKS FINE FOR ME WINDOWS SEVEN IS THE BEST"
Thanks, Nightblade. I was not offended by those reactions, you know. In the contrary I'm quite happy to know that some people have no problems at all.
In an other hand ...well, I can't be happy that you encountered the same bugs I had, but at least it reassures me as a sign that all those problems are not due to my clumsiness.
Windows 7 doesn't show the files extensions by default. If I ask the system to show them, it will make the comp freeze next time I want to switch it on or out,
When I remove the admin's account then some programs will merely not be launched.
When I have to leave the comp before I entered the Admin's password then the comp freezes.
"Please wait before switching off your machine, Windows will install 32 768 important updates" (sic)
Want more? :P
post=120220post=120217
I don't know how to solve the problems you're having, but if I were you I would just switch back to Windows XP if possible. Way I figure none of the new stuff Windows 7 offers is worth the headaches it seems to be causing you.post=120338
XP == old software for old hardware.
Win7 == new software for new hardware.
Don't expect the latest to run on the oldest.
Well, one of my purposes when I made this topic, was to warn game makers that there was a huge problem there.
RM2k and RM2K3 games work fine with Windows 7.
Some RMVX and most RMXP don't, though those RM programs are more recent...
post=120839
I'm running windows 7 ultimate x64 and I haven't had any problems with it.
well, I did have an issue where the computer will start randomly skipping frames, and the sound will skip and jump when it does it. but this only happens after it's been on for many weeks, without a reboot. also, end tasking msn messenger seems to fix it, so it's probably unrelated to windows 7 at all.
You said THE master word: Windows 7 ultimate. Mine is just "home edition premium". The fact that I encounter problems and you don't is a pure effect of chance, no doubt... :P
If it had been me, I wouldn't have switched to Windows 7 till it was completely bug free and safe. But W7 will eventually become THE prominent operating system, and softwares will be made for this version. So better get used to it as soon as possible. *sigh*
Anyway thankss a lot everybody for your comments and suggestions.
Izazie
262
post=120939post=120937post=120190I could try, if can legally put my hands on a version of WinXP Pro... ;)post=120109not if you use a virtual machine, it creates a virtual hard drive as a file on your existing hard drive. the virtual hard drive also has a rolling storage capacity, meaning instead of being a full-size hard drive it will only be as large as the files present on it.post=120106Even if I got one, I would have to part my HD, what I already did in the past with all the the problems that it implies.
you would have to get a pirate copy of XP, but by their nature they're free and widely available if you know where to look ;)
post=120253
I have grown fond of how reliable XP is. So instead of upgrading to a newer operating system, I've used Virtualbox's support for 64-bit guest OSs in a 32-bit host for the past two years.
edit: i.e. virtualization is the solution to 67.345% of everything
post=120216
You should grab yourself a Linux distro just as backup (I like Ubuntu myself). You can boot up and run the entire OS off a CD/USB Stick without installing anything. It won't save you from Windows crapping out, but handy to have around if Windows does get to a point it can't boot. You can boot entirely into Linux off the CD/USB, and access the hard-drive to backup files or whatever before formatting and reinstalling Windows. I've saved several friends stuff with it.
I will try...but if everything else fails.
First, W7 was pre-installed on this new comp, so I don't have the CD to re-install Windows if I do something wrong, or if I get as many error messages as I got from Linux when I tried to run it alongside with Windows Millenium.
Moreover, Windows 7 is a paying software. It has to work, and any problem youencounter with must have a solution, otherwise it's a mere hoax.
post=120129
Extract this to the folder of an RMXP game that doesn't work and change Game.ini to use this RGSS dll.This is what worked when XP and Vista decided to hate each other and I'm curious if this let's you play the games that doesn't work.
Also can you open the XP/VX editors at all?
I did...and it just told me that the thing was extracted, don't remember the exact words. the I opened the game (Phylomortis) and guess what? Rgss not working.
But there are probably other details to be changed (RTP1= standard, for example? )
I don't know anything about game making though, so I can't answer you properly. Maybe I will pm you about it for more details (I don't even know if I made things the right way.)
I will try to find time and post screenshots, so that you can see what it did. Thanks a lot for the suggestion! :)
post=120226
To elaborate a bit, I'm just venting because you hear this crap everywhere someone is asking for help.
"Help, I just installed Windows 7 on a brand new hard drive. I did everything including doing a thorough SMART scan on the drive, and did research to ensure all of my components ar..."
"WELL IT WORKS FINE FOR ME WINDOWS SEVEN IS THE BEST"
Thanks, Nightblade. I was not offended by those reactions, you know. In the contrary I'm quite happy to know that some people have no problems at all.
In an other hand ...well, I can't be happy that you encountered the same bugs I had, but at least it reassures me as a sign that all those problems are not due to my clumsiness.
Windows 7 doesn't show the files extensions by default. If I ask the system to show them, it will make the comp freeze next time I want to switch it on or out,
When I remove the admin's account then some programs will merely not be launched.
When I have to leave the comp before I entered the Admin's password then the comp freezes.
"Please wait before switching off your machine, Windows will install 32 768 important updates" (sic)
Windows 7 refuses to open links given via Mozilla or Skype, even though I set Firefox as my default browser.
In the same time, when I use CCleaner , I can see that I got cookies and such crap...from Internet Explorer, that I don't want to use! MAkes me mad.
Want more? :P
post=120220post=120217
I don't know how to solve the problems you're having, but if I were you I would just switch back to Windows XP if possible. Way I figure none of the new stuff Windows 7 offers is worth the headaches it seems to be causing you.post=120338
XP == old software for old hardware.
Win7 == new software for new hardware.
Don't expect the latest to run on the oldest.
Well, one of my purposes when I made this topic, was to warn game makers that there was a huge problem there.
RM2k and RM2K3 games work fine with Windows 7.
Some RMVX and most RMXP don't, though those RM programs are more recent...
post=120839
I'm running windows 7 ultimate x64 and I haven't had any problems with it.
well, I did have an issue where the computer will start randomly skipping frames, and the sound will skip and jump when it does it. but this only happens after it's been on for many weeks, without a reboot. also, end tasking msn messenger seems to fix it, so it's probably unrelated to windows 7 at all.
You said THE master word: Windows 7 ultimate. Mine is just "home edition premium". The fact that I encounter problems and you don't is a pure effect of chance, no doubt... :P
If it had been me, I wouldn't have switched to Windows 7 till it was completely bug free and safe. But W7 will eventually become THE prominent operating system, and softwares will be made for this version. So better get used to it as soon as possible. *sigh*
Anyway thankss a lot everybody for your comments and suggestions.
Nightblade
2723
I went back to Windows XP a few days ago and the difference is like night and day. My mouse actually feels right again (No acceleration instead of just very little), it doesn't take me 20 god damn seconds to delete a text file, my system doesnt randomly boot with a black screen and a mouse cursor, games don't stutter anymore.
harbin91
20
I am also having this problem... seems that the players load the games very slowly on Windows 7, and yes for somereaosn A New Earth won't play.
Now, my computer is only three years old, which means most of its hardware is still alright, but I don't see how this is a hardware problem. I thought it would be more of a software problem, considering that it is an OS that effects whether it runs or not. Problem if I dual boot though is lack of HDD space. I cannot afford to split my harddrive into three partitions (its already two), because I would run out of space on atleast one partition. Plus the bootloader will change to the XP one, and I'll have to piss about getting the command line things to tell it that W7 exists on another partition.
Anyone know if Microsoft will release an update to deal with this, or will I have to reinstall and dual boot XP to get rid of any compatability issues?
Alternatively, if anyone knows of a program that will replace the default RMXP/VX players with new ones, that work fine in Windows 7, then please let me know.
Now, my computer is only three years old, which means most of its hardware is still alright, but I don't see how this is a hardware problem. I thought it would be more of a software problem, considering that it is an OS that effects whether it runs or not. Problem if I dual boot though is lack of HDD space. I cannot afford to split my harddrive into three partitions (its already two), because I would run out of space on atleast one partition. Plus the bootloader will change to the XP one, and I'll have to piss about getting the command line things to tell it that W7 exists on another partition.
Anyone know if Microsoft will release an update to deal with this, or will I have to reinstall and dual boot XP to get rid of any compatability issues?
Alternatively, if anyone knows of a program that will replace the default RMXP/VX players with new ones, that work fine in Windows 7, then please let me know.
WolfCoder
3554
post=120956
I went back to Windows XP a few days ago and the difference is like night and day. My mouse actually feels right again (No acceleration instead of just very little), it doesn't take me 20 god damn seconds to delete a text file, my system doesnt randomly boot with a black screen and a mouse cursor, games don't stutter anymore.
For me, on windows XP my computer would randomly blue screen when watching YouTube videos. Some games would crash left and right and it got really slow. On Windows 7, overall games run slightly slower but are much more stable, and the random blue screens went away. I don't know what you are all complaining about as even RPG Maker 2000 runs OK on 7 (you have to install it in XP mode though) for me. Games load and stuff. And it doesn't take 20 god dam seconds to delete anything.
I used a computer recently with windows XP and I wonder how I ever got anything done with XP.
Even if you plan to stick with XP, there's already flaws Microsoft has ignored to patch because they are abandoning the OS. It's about as smart as sticking with Windows 95 was back then.
If you really hate this, then get a Linux OS or a Mac or something. Quit using products that you hate >.<" I'm a fan of Linux myself as much as I like Windows 7.
harbin91
20
You can't run those in Linux unless you have Wine (I think it is).
I'd use XP mode but my comp doesn't support it, even if it can run XP. :|
I'd use XP mode but my comp doesn't support it, even if it can run XP. :|
Izazie
262
I've heard that the ultimate (and most expensive) version of Windows 7 allows you to switch back and forth to Windows XP, or between 32b and 64b modes. a clear sign that the programmers knew that all was not going fine with W7, I think...but I'm a wicked and cynic person. :P
If I understood correctly what was posted in the topic and draw the right conclusion, it seems that people using the US version are encountering less (if not no) problems, but maybe it's just me.
WolfCoder: I have to stick with Windows 7 for financial reasons, ...and because I had so many problems when I tried to make Linux and Windows XP co-exist on my previous comp (Linux showering me with error messages.)
@harbin91: an external hard drive should remedy to your lack of space: mine was 500GB...before Windows 7 "killed"it. (I have no other explanation, since it worked fine with Windows XP) . One of my friends got one that can store 1 tera, and there are some that can store even more.
All the RM games used to work without any problem with Windows XP, though the VX and XP ones lagged too much to be playable. (the root of the problem being the Pentium III processor.)
If I understood correctly what was posted in the topic and draw the right conclusion, it seems that people using the US version are encountering less (if not no) problems, but maybe it's just me.
WolfCoder: I have to stick with Windows 7 for financial reasons, ...and because I had so many problems when I tried to make Linux and Windows XP co-exist on my previous comp (Linux showering me with error messages.)
@harbin91: an external hard drive should remedy to your lack of space: mine was 500GB...before Windows 7 "killed"it. (I have no other explanation, since it worked fine with Windows XP) . One of my friends got one that can store 1 tera, and there are some that can store even more.
All the RM games used to work without any problem with Windows XP, though the VX and XP ones lagged too much to be playable. (the root of the problem being the Pentium III processor.)
WolfCoder
3554
post=121118
You can't run those in Linux unless you have Wine (I think it is).
I'd use XP mode but my comp doesn't support it, even if it can run XP. :|
Your comp does not support or support Windows XP, it is the version of Windows 7 you have that either supports or does not support XP mode. Only Professional editions and up have Windows XP mode.
...and because I had so many problems when I tried to make Linux and Windows XP co-exist on my previous comp (Linux showering me with error messages.)
Interesting. All I had to do was install Windows XP in one partition, and then Linux in another and it works just fine. And I've done this to all the machines I own except my tiny laptop which is always running Linux.
(I have no other explanation, since it worked fine with Windows XP)
I'm going to have to say the problem is somewhere in between the keyboard and the chair.
(the root of the problem being the Pentium III processor.)
Or this. Why the hell are you running even Windows XP with such an artifact of computer science? If I was limited to such a thing, I would have gone 100% Linux all the way.
post=121144(I have no other explanation, since it worked fine with Windows XP)
I'm going to have to say the problem is somewhere in between the keyboard and the chair.
Gasp! I knew it was the fault of the global warming heated air between the two!
Izazie
262
Wolfcoder, I'm most certainly a big problem myself, since I'm not a pro of computers science. :P
But when I have a doubt, I ask...and as I'm very cautious, I ask very often.
I always can ask my son, who was raised among with computers, like all of you guys. I can also search the web for informations, so I never do anything risky or chancy.
I know for a long time how cautious you have to be with a storage device, and I was. Moreover, the HD stopped working within less than a week after, just after I began to use it with W7, while it was working perfect with XP..
Of course I can have made a mistake, despite all the precautions I described above. Everybody is able to make mistakes. But in this case, it would have been a huge one (hammering the HD, maybe? Or put it in the oven?)
About using Windows XP with a Pentium 3 processor...Well, this old computer was sold with Windows Millenium (Windows Me in English) installed on it. Even a slow Windows XP is better than a Windows Millenium, believe me.
Please imagine me smiling while I'm typing this.
But when I have a doubt, I ask...and as I'm very cautious, I ask very often.
I always can ask my son, who was raised among with computers, like all of you guys. I can also search the web for informations, so I never do anything risky or chancy.
I know for a long time how cautious you have to be with a storage device, and I was. Moreover, the HD stopped working within less than a week after, just after I began to use it with W7, while it was working perfect with XP..
Of course I can have made a mistake, despite all the precautions I described above. Everybody is able to make mistakes. But in this case, it would have been a huge one (hammering the HD, maybe? Or put it in the oven?)
About using Windows XP with a Pentium 3 processor...Well, this old computer was sold with Windows Millenium (Windows Me in English) installed on it. Even a slow Windows XP is better than a Windows Millenium, believe me.
Please imagine me smiling while I'm typing this.
Windows XP can run perfectly fine on a Pentium III, just for the record.
Unrelated note: Windows ME was awesome. ;_;
Unrelated note: Windows ME was awesome. ;_;
Unrelated: Isn't there a mini version of Windows XP that could run on the old Pentium 1's that had that good ol' turbo button? (and more importantly next to no RAM).
I can't find it with a quick google search so maybe I'm wrong :(
I can't find it with a quick google search so maybe I'm wrong :(
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Fundamentals_for_Legacy_PCs
You are correct, GRS.
You are correct, GRS.
