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How is it that many other democratic countries have multiple parties splitting the vote? Canada has 4 (or 5, if you count the Green Party), Germany has around that many, etc etc... The USA seems to be an anomaly in this respect.
I like Canada's system - We don't so much get a choice on who will be Prime Minister, but we do get to choose the level of support for each of our parties. Everyone votes on their local guy, which boosts support for that party - then depending on that influence the parties are assigned a number of seats in the House. The parties themselves get to elect who will lead them, and the party with the largest influence gets to have their leader be prime minister.

This - however - can backfire, as so many votes can go to the other parties, it can occur that all the other parties combined will have a greater influence than the ruling party, and if they can agree they can stop the Prime Minister's legislation.

Exactly what occurred just recently. Harpers minority government, aye? And then they called an election because they were getting stonewalled in parliament and unable to do anything - and the election resulted in a minority government again, but with a few more reps on the Harper (conservative) side.
Hexatona
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There hasn't been a majority government in Canada for some time, sadly. What's SUPPOSED to happen is that only stuff that everyone can agree on gets passed, which would be pretty centrist in theory

In PRACTICE, however... Well, welcome to our hell, States.
Max McGee
with sorrow down past the fence
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My dad and my girlfriend really hate Obama...

I do not hate him so much, but I like him less than everyone else in my generation.

It is a slippery slope.
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There hasn't been a majority government in Canada for some time, sadly. What's SUPPOSED to happen is that only stuff that everyone can agree on gets passed, which would be pretty centrist in theory

In PRACTICE, however... Well, welcome to our hell, States.
Yours has health care to patch up those pitchfork wounds. I think the U.S. will NEVER have universal health care, ever.And this will suck.
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Yours has health care to patch up those pitchfork wounds. I think the U.S. will NEVER have universal health care, ever.And this will suck.


I will agree that special interest money has corrupted the US government in tremendous ways, and why we will never see universal health care.

If you really want to fix the US government, then the money needs to be removed.
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It's people like you that make Democracy not work. You have absolutely no right to complain at all if you do not vote.
Thought I'd weigh in. This stuck out to me. You made me think of george carlin. If I don't vote, I'm not responsible for putting that man in office. Fuck political process. Its a protest of how perverted the system has become, where you are left to choose between two candidates that have a few differing views, but sustain the same overall views and principals. Think Zeitgeist Addendum.


George Carlin was the fucking shit, man. My hero.
Since we hopped on the healthcare topic, I just wanted to point out to our friends down south that Canada does not in fact operate on a socialist healthcare system. It is a public insurance option, which we like to call universal coverage. There is private insurance. We aren't socialists. The only difference between our healthcare and yours is that everyone here is insured, they cannot be denied coverage, and there is accountability. If someone was ever denied their universal insurance and died as a result, instead of having a private corporation getting away with murder, we would hold our provincial government(s) responsible (public insurance is administered on the provincial level). Additionally, people who make certain brackets of income (forget the specifics right now) or whom don't file their taxes, are billed for their health insurance.

Citation: http://www.pnhp.org/news/2008/february/10_myths_about_canad.php
My whole family HATES Obama, myself included, (not hate, but dislike) mainly due to the people he's been associating himself with. I don't remember too many names, but the guy who wants to sterilize everyone, the guy who wants animals to have lawyers, Hilary Clinton, they really make me question what he's thinking. But hey, I don't consider myself politically in-the-know, so I guess that says where I stand.
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My whole family HATES Obama, myself included, (not hate, but dislike) mainly due to the people he's been associating himself with. I don't remember too many names, but the guy who wants to sterilize everyone, the guy who wants animals to have lawyers, Hilary Clinton, they really make me question what he's thinking. But hey, I don't consider myself politically in-the-know, so I guess that says where I stand.

Maybe you should consider educating yourself before making judgments; stop watching Fox News while you're at it.
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My whole family HATES Obama, myself included, (not hate, but dislike) mainly due to the people he's been associating himself with. I don't remember too many names, but the guy who wants to sterilize everyone, the guy who wants animals to have lawyers, Hilary Clinton, they really make me question what he's thinking. But hey, I don't consider myself politically in-the-know, so I guess that says where I stand.
Maybe you should considering educating yourself before making judgments; stop watching Fox News while you're at it.
I don't, but thanks for thinking I do because I don't like Obama.
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Maybe you should considering educating yourself.
sorry, it had to be quoted
ohhh the irony
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Maybe you should considering educating yourself.
sorry, it had to be quoted
ohhh the irony


ahahahahahahahahahahahahaha thank you boobledeeboo you have made my day
Hexatona
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it annoys me that the words SOCIALISM and COMMUNISM are bandied about as effigies of the bogey man
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My whole family HATES Obama, myself included, (not hate, but dislike) mainly due to the people he's been associating himself with. I don't remember too many names, but the guy who wants to sterilize everyone, the guy who wants animals to have lawyers, Hilary Clinton, they really make me question what he's thinking. But hey, I don't consider myself politically in-the-know, so I guess that says where I stand.


I don't understand this at all. "the guy who wants to sterilize everyone"? "the guy who wants animals to have lawyers"?

As for Hillary, well, I think she makes a good Secretary of State. It's a good role for her.
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post=125879
My whole family HATES Obama, myself included, (not hate, but dislike) mainly due to the people he's been associating himself with. I don't remember too many names, but the guy who wants to sterilize everyone, the guy who wants animals to have lawyers, Hilary Clinton, they really make me question what he's thinking. But hey, I don't consider myself politically in-the-know, so I guess that says where I stand.
I don't understand this at all. "the guy who wants to sterilize everyone"? "the guy who wants animals to have lawyers"?

As for Hillary, well, I think she makes a good Secretary of State. It's a good role for her.
Sunstein wanted animals to be able to bring suit. Holdren suggested that we should have forced abortions and sterilizations.

Also, the reason why people throw around the words communism and socialism like they throw around the words "dead babies" is because they don't exactly equal long-lasting, successful governments, though I'm not saying it can't be done. Venezuela is a prime example of what a system like that can do to a country, although that's probably less because they're socialist and more because their leader is a friggin' idiot.
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Also, the reason why people throw around the words communism and socialism like they throw around the words "dead babies" is because they don't exactly equal long-lasting, successful governments, though I'm not saying it can't be done.

Such failures go both ways.
Max McGee
with sorrow down past the fence
9159
post=125879
My whole family HATES Obama, myself included, (not hate, but dislike) mainly due to the people he's been associating himself with. I don't remember too many names, but the guy who wants to sterilize everyone, the guy who wants animals to have lawyers, Hilary Clinton, they really make me question what he's thinking. But hey, I don't consider myself politically in-the-know, so I guess that says where I stand.


Animal lawyer guy (what??) really sucks and Hilary Clinton is even worse (I was done with her for life after she backed Jack Thompson) but I think "sterilize everyone" guy (again, what???) might be onto something.
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Sunstein wanted animals to be able to bring suit. Holdren suggested that we should have forced abortions and sterilizations.

Also, the reason why people throw around the words communism and socialism like they throw around the words "dead babies" is because they don't exactly equal long-lasting, successful governments, though I'm not saying it can't be done. Venezuela is a prime example of what a system like that can do to a country, although that's probably less because they're socialist and more because their leader is a friggin' idiot.


I'm sorry. These sound like slanted, biased pundit statements, and doing a quick google search, I'm right.

Moreover, shit like this doesn't solve issues or problems; they're designed for people who want to hate the candidate to hate the candidate, as opposed to hearing what they stand for. When you vote for a candidate for bullshit like this (Hi, I'm Scott Brown, and my stances are "Yay Trucks!" and "Baseball is cool!" Vote for me!), you get the bullshit representative. If people informed themselves of the issues and vote how they truly feel, then we wouldn't have the shit-style government we have.

Here's a big surprise: When government doesn't work, republicans win; since it's, y'know, their fucking platform.

I can get into a diatribe about what the word "socialist" really means in reference to Obama, but I think I'll refrain.
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Maybe you should considering educating yourself.
sorry, it had to be quoted
ohhh the irony

HAHAHHALOLOLOLLOLlll

Yes, careless typing is funny; let's move on.

I'm sorry. These sound like slanted, biased pundit statements, and doing a quick google search, I'm right.

Moreover, shit like this doesn't solve issues or problems; they're designed for people who want to hate the candidate to hate the candidate, as opposed to hearing what they stand for. When you vote for a candidate for bullshit like this (Hi, I'm Scott Brown, and my stances are "Yay Trucks!" and "Baseball is cool!" Vote for me!), you get the bullshit representative. If people informed themselves of the issues and vote how they truly feel, then we wouldn't have the shit-style government we have.

Here's a big surprise: When government doesn't work, republicans win; since it's, y'know, their fucking platform.

I can get into a diatribe about what the word "socialist" really means in reference to Obama, but I think I'll refrain.

I agree, though at this point; it's all a wash until you get the business interest to stop funding these campaigns.

Gee Golly Jeepers, I might not hate the fact that Obama has a half man, half dog as a "lawyer guy" or anything(Seriously, who the hell are you talking about); but what happened to that whole "changing the game" schtick we heard so much about?

I think Arnold should be president.
Or Ron Paul.