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CloseHey can someone help me make a good storyline, well not a storyline but like fancy talk.
You probally don't know what I mean but like when a noobish game a npc talks with lots of errors and use internet language (lol, ttyl, noob, ect) and in good games like final fantasy they speak like a real person in a real situation and has like no spelling errors or rarley has any spelling errors. Here is a link to my game download (The data is not compressed) http://www.box.net/shared/emzb9rk4k8
Tell me in the comments below how I can improve and speak like the people in final fantasy.
P.S: I am really cheseey and have lots of errors beacuse i'm only 13!
You probally don't know what I mean but like when a noobish game a npc talks with lots of errors and use internet language (lol, ttyl, noob, ect) and in good games like final fantasy they speak like a real person in a real situation and has like no spelling errors or rarley has any spelling errors. Here is a link to my game download (The data is not compressed) http://www.box.net/shared/emzb9rk4k8
Tell me in the comments below how I can improve and speak like the people in final fantasy.
P.S: I am really cheseey and have lots of errors beacuse i'm only 13!
Unless English isn't your native language, by the age of 13 you really shouldn't have a problem with spelling. I assume your teachers in school don't let you get away with essays that have spelling mistakes in them. Just check over what you write. If you're unsure of a word, google it. Or write your dialogue out in word and run it through spell check.
Dialogue on the other hand, I don't want to give advice on that since that's not my strong area. You could start by observing how people speak in real life, then translating that to what you believe that person would say if they were in the game.
Dialogue on the other hand, I don't want to give advice on that since that's not my strong area. You could start by observing how people speak in real life, then translating that to what you believe that person would say if they were in the game.
I didn't say you had to observe Spartans. I said people in general. Why not try and see how it'd be like if you based a Spartan on someone you know? That's what I mean. I don't mean that the Spartan would watch TV from 3-5pm, or something like that. I mean that the basic personality and how the person talks like, that you could transfer over.
Well, unless you know ancient greek, observing Spartans would be a useless effort anyway.
And besides, the solution is simple:
READ MORE NOVELS.
If you are just generally curious on how to write passable dialogue, read books. Writers know how to write. Learn from them.
And besides, the solution is simple:
READ MORE NOVELS.
If you are just generally curious on how to write passable dialogue, read books. Writers know how to write. Learn from them.
yamata no orochi
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I think Stephen King once said that if you have no time to read, you have no time to write--so don't fool yourself.
I don't read Stephen King. But yeah, if you want to learn how to write better, read more. Read a lot.
I don't read Stephen King. But yeah, if you want to learn how to write better, read more. Read a lot.
myersguy
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This is exactly what I have been doing. I get angry at myself when I go a long period of time without reading my book. I have recently been reading the "Sword of Truth" series, and I draw a lot of ideas from it. As a matter of fact, tjhe whole "Border" idea in my game was based on the "Boundry" in the book, it is quite different however. I actually suggest reading the Sword of Truth series, and perhaps Redwall, so far, I jhave found both to be good fantasy reads.
demondestiny
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Never heard of either of those books but any Fantasy book that i haven't read will soon be read by me. I read about every day.
Good writing and dialogue can make or break a game, so I'm happy to see you're eager to learn.
Others have given good advice; reading helps, and writing good dialogue is dependent on your own skills as a writer. Those won't build overnight, but reading is a good start. Until then, always make sure to base how a character talks on;
1- their motive. What do they want?
2- Their relationship with the protagonist, or whoever it is they're talking to. Do they like them? Hate them? Barely know them? And how will your audience know this from what they say?
3- their emotional/physical state at this time. A sad person may talk in s-s-stutters, while an injured person's sentences may be interrupted by moaning, and death. =D
4- In some cases, where they live. Do they have an accent? Usually, in games, you want accents to be subtle so as they're not so incredibly irritating or distracting. Also- are there particular colloquials or idioms for the region?
5- Their personality. How do they want to represent themselves? A person who wants to seem tough will try and sound tough, a kind person will use sweet words, a king will speak regally. Since you mentioned final fantasy, I recommend you take a look at what each of your favorite characters say and how that represents their personality. Or maybe, they don't talk that often at all. Silence can speak volumes! ;D
Also; A lot of dialogue doesn't equal good dialogue. If a character has nothing useful or interesting to say, just leave it out. Everything should be worth reading.
I think that's all I have to say for the moment. I hope I was of help.
Others have given good advice; reading helps, and writing good dialogue is dependent on your own skills as a writer. Those won't build overnight, but reading is a good start. Until then, always make sure to base how a character talks on;
1- their motive. What do they want?
2- Their relationship with the protagonist, or whoever it is they're talking to. Do they like them? Hate them? Barely know them? And how will your audience know this from what they say?
3- their emotional/physical state at this time. A sad person may talk in s-s-stutters, while an injured person's sentences may be interrupted by moaning, and death. =D
4- In some cases, where they live. Do they have an accent? Usually, in games, you want accents to be subtle so as they're not so incredibly irritating or distracting. Also- are there particular colloquials or idioms for the region?
5- Their personality. How do they want to represent themselves? A person who wants to seem tough will try and sound tough, a kind person will use sweet words, a king will speak regally. Since you mentioned final fantasy, I recommend you take a look at what each of your favorite characters say and how that represents their personality. Or maybe, they don't talk that often at all. Silence can speak volumes! ;D
Also; A lot of dialogue doesn't equal good dialogue. If a character has nothing useful or interesting to say, just leave it out. Everything should be worth reading.
I think that's all I have to say for the moment. I hope I was of help.
maladroithim
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While we are on the topic of recommending books as inspiration, I suggest you look at James Lee Burke's crime novels for some of the most basically effective pop writing I've ever read. Also, Ken Follet's Pillars of the Earth offers a very historically informed look at the medieval period, rather than being a fantasy novel, and might give you ideas to make your fantasy worlds feel much more alive.
maladroithim
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author=kentona link=topic=657.msg8930#msg8930 date=1202828780
It also happens to be one of the best books I've ever read.
"It" being . . . ? I hope you aren't talking about the 80s Stephen King novel starring Sweet Tooth.
author=brandonabley link=topic=657.msg8934#msg8934 date=1202835180Sorry. Pillars of the Earth by Ken Follett.author=kentona link=topic=657.msg8930#msg8930 date=1202828780
It also happens to be one of the best books I've ever read.
"It" being . . . ? I hope you aren't talking about the 80s Stephen King novel starring Sweet Tooth.
maladroithim
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author=kentona link=topic=657.msg8937#msg8937 date=1202836110
Sorry. Pillars of the Earth by Ken Follett.
Yeah, it's pretty good. I was a little incredulous during the bizarre sex scene in the woods and I thought that would have been a starvation hallucination or something but when it turned out to be real I was pretty disappointed. I generally don't like vividly described sex scenes in novels because they seem pornographic in my opinion. I prefer a more vague description (i.e.: They made love throughout the night and into the early morning). Incidentally, it seems like only male authors and pop trash writers like Danielle Steele write those sorts of pornographic scenes and I'm starting to think that male authors in general are extremely mysoginistic.
I thought it was starkly real and added to the story. Ken Follett doesn't beat around a dead horse and use euphemisms for such reality such as sex scenes and rape in this novel.
I believe it made the scene more poignant.
I believe it made the scene more poignant.
maladroithim
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author=kentona link=topic=657.msg8944#msg8944 date=1202837801
I thought it was starkly real and added to the story. Ken Follett doesn't beat around a dead horse and use euphemisms for such reality such as sex scenes and rape in this novel.
I believe it made the scene more poignant.
But it made no . . . sense.
It's like if you were some beautiful woman living in the woods and you see an emaciated starving man without a jacket on laying in the snow, would your first instinct be to have sex with him?
Key phrase: If you were a woman; I can imagine that the first impulse of many men who encounter helpless women is to have sex with them BECAUSE ALL THE MEMBERS OF RMN ARE PERVERTS EXCEPT FOR CRAZEBERRY.
demondestiny
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author=brandonabley link=topic=657.msg8948#msg8948 date=1202840893
BECAUSE ALL THE MEMBERS OF RMN ARE PERVERTS
Indeed we are. :)
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