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65TH ANERVERSRY OF THE HIROSHIMA BOMBINGS

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65 years and still no apology to the victims, I really don't care about the argument that "it was necessary for a quick end" america needs to grow up and take some responsibility for those who died and there family's.

I watched the memorial on TV and they talked about abolishing all nukes in the world... it will never happen, its just a pipe dream. sad though
If you want this topic to be taken seriously, then you should probably spell anniversary right.
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If you want this topic to be taken seriously, then you should probably spell anniversary right.


woops, i was playing my PSP while typing, almost lost my quest rewards in MHFU
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woops, i was playing my PSP while typing, almost lost my quest rewards in MHFU

Sounds like you take this very seriously.
tardis
is it too late for ironhide facepalm
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while we're not taking this seriously, i might as well say

'it made a pretty boom'
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If you want this topic to be taken seriously, then you should probably spell anniversary right.

i like how you spot this error and not the REALLY GLARING ONE
I might be wrong but I think there was a place called Nagasaki that was maybe damaged a little but hell I dunno.
The napalm used on Japanese cities caused way more damage and loss of lives then those bombs ever did. ;|
should've invested in some SDI defence
On the other hand if you put the same amount of atomic bombs as there has been napalm then you'd probably get the postapocalyptic world we all dream about!

I mean if you look at it. Car accidents has caused more deaths than those two bombs did.
i think you meant "if you look at it from a stupid perspective" iirc there are slightly more car journeys every day than there ever has been nuclear attacks
There was slightly more napalm thrown over those cities too.
Decky
I'm a dog pirate
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Estimated casualties for Operation Downfall were in the tens of millions, including civilians. And in response to the inevitable retort, the Cold War would have progressed regardless of what bombs the US dropped -- if anything, a powerful bomb untested on humans could have resulted in millions of more deaths if its "maiden explosion" had occurred in New York or Moscow. Truman made the right call.
Yellow Magic
Could I BE any more Chandler Bing from Friends (TM)?
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People suck

the end
From what I was always taught in school, there were two possible outcomes to the Pacific theater in WWII; Operation Downfall (estimated casualties, millions upon millions for both sides), or the atomic drops.

I'm no military historian, but from what I know, there was no real better option to be had, and no matter what choice we picked, there would be leagues of people asking 'what if we picked the other option'?

War is nasty.
Decky
I'm a dog pirate
19645
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America and Japan were at war and, frankly, if Japan had surrendered instead of blowing themselves up all over the place, despite knowing they were in a losing situation, then America wouldn't have been forced to drop those bombs.


This. The Japanese government owe the apology to their citizens, especially the group of officers who attempted to overthrow Hirohito around the time of the bombings.
That too, yeah. The wartime Japanese government weren't exactly smart in their diplomacy. When you're at war with a country and you're losing, and your opponent sends you a letter stating that if you don't surrender, your country will literally be destroyed (Postdam Declaration), you don't tell them 'no'.
It's horrible that it had to happen, but to apologize for it would be admitting a mistake was made. It would be devastating for the US government to concede the bombings as "as mistake."
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