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THE IRAQ WAR IS OFFICIALLY OVER.
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Karsuman
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Haha yeah, establishing a democratic form of government for a foreign country in need is a total waste of money.
Firstly, nation-building is retarded when our own infrastructure is falling to pieces.
Secondly, the content of your comment suggests you know little about America's foreign affairs history. Let me give an incomplete list of names:
Pinochet, Chilean dictator
Saddam Hussein, Iraqi dictator
Ayub Khan, Pakistani dictator
Suharto, Indonesian dictator
Manuel Noriega, Panamarian dictator
Mohammed Pahlavi, Iranian dictator
Osama bin Laden, al-Qaeda founder
King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia
Teodoro Obiang, dictator of Equatorial Guinea
Anastasio Somoza GarcÃa, Nicaraguan dictator
Now how are these related? Well, here: The United States had supported all of their regimes/ideologies at one time or another and placed several of them in power, and they are/were all bad, bad, men.
Our war in Iraq has nothing to do with democratization of the place. It was all about securing American interests, no matter how inane and short-sighted it might seem. I'm not going to try to convince you whether that is a good thing or a bad thing, but let's at LEAST be honest about it.
Natook
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Firstly, nation-building is retarded when our own infrastructure is falling to pieces.
I completely agree, but I was going with the lesser of two evils on my statement.
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Secondly, the content of your comment suggests you know little about America's foreign affairs history.
You are correct sir, I don't know much about American foreign policies. But, Is it true that Obama's stimulus bill cost close to the amount of the Iraq War? That was really what I was going for.
BD_Design
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Well it's not so much creating an infrastructure as it is setting up a world bank debt.
Hello Plutocracy!
Hello Plutocracy!
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Haha yeah, establishing a democratic form of government for a foreign country in need is a total waste of money.
*forces a democratic regime on a culture it is completely alien to* yes this will definitely not be a trainwreck
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You are correct sir, I don't know much about American foreign policies. But, Is it true that Obama's stimulus bill cost close to the amount of the Iraq War? That was really what I was going for.
You could say "sorta" but it's intellectually dishonest really. PolitiFact article that goes over it explaining it's dubious math. Plus soldiers lives should carry a tad more weight than money when measuring American losses and waste.
GEE WIZ JOHNNY I'M SO GLAD ALL THE BAIL OUTS AND STIMULUS PLANS ARE HELPING THE AMERICAN ECONOMY BACK ON ITS FEET.
Oh wait, all that money got pocketed by banks and CEO's and their shit companies.
You know what we should have done? Let those banks and companies go to shit and start anew, how its suppose to be, obviously they aren't doing their job correctly so let somebody else go up to bat.
Fuck, that stimulus money would've done more good if divided up to each american household which could use that money for paying off debts, buying new shit, etc, you know that thing that actually gets an economy going.
America is so goddamn corrupt and blinded by this non stop propaganda about how we're number 1 and saving the world with democracy by pissing out freedom and shitting out liberty that we don't even see what the fuck is happening on our soil.
We're not a democratic country, we haven't been for a long time. we're a goddamn greedy hypocritical hyper-capitalistic shit hole.
word
Oh wait, all that money got pocketed by banks and CEO's and their shit companies.
You know what we should have done? Let those banks and companies go to shit and start anew, how its suppose to be, obviously they aren't doing their job correctly so let somebody else go up to bat.
Fuck, that stimulus money would've done more good if divided up to each american household which could use that money for paying off debts, buying new shit, etc, you know that thing that actually gets an economy going.
America is so goddamn corrupt and blinded by this non stop propaganda about how we're number 1 and saving the world with democracy by pissing out freedom and shitting out liberty that we don't even see what the fuck is happening on our soil.
We're not a democratic country, we haven't been for a long time. we're a goddamn greedy hypocritical hyper-capitalistic shit hole.
word
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We're not a democratic country, we haven't been for a long time. we're a goddamn greedy hypocritical hyper-capitalistic shit hole.
what you are describing is a democracy
Kef
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democracy doesn't work. if communism becomes a totalitarian dictatorship, then democracy becomes an oligarchy. derrr
please just bring back the aristocracy.
please just bring back the aristocracy.
BD_Design
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ANARCHY NOW!!!
I propose an anarcho-syndicalist commune. We take it in turns to be a sort of executive officer for the week. But all the decisions of that officer have to be ratified at a special bi-weekly meeting, by a simple majority in the case of purely internal affairs, but by a two thirds majority in the case of....
I say that we our most elder male become the chief of our tribe, but when the tribe grows to more than 50 people, we split into two smaller tribes and go our separate ways.
It worked in the past.
It worked in the past.
Kaempfer
1932
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GEE WIZ JOHNNY I'M SO GLAD ALL THE BAIL OUTS AND STIMULUS PLANS ARE HELPING THE AMERICAN ECONOMY BACK ON ITS FEET.
Oh wait, all that money got pocketed by banks and CEO's and their shit companies.
You know what we should have done? Let those banks and companies go to shit and start anew, how its suppose to be, obviously they aren't doing their job correctly so let somebody else go up to bat.
Fuck, that stimulus money would've done more good if divided up to each american household which could use that money for paying off debts, buying new shit, etc, you know that thing that actually gets an economy going.
no understanding of economics whatsoever
Kef
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post=156225post=155526no understanding of economics whatsoever
GEE WIZ JOHNNY I'M SO GLAD ALL THE BAIL OUTS AND STIMULUS PLANS ARE HELPING THE AMERICAN ECONOMY BACK ON ITS FEET.
Oh wait, all that money got pocketed by banks and CEO's and their shit companies.
You know what we should have done? Let those banks and companies go to shit and start anew, how its suppose to be, obviously they aren't doing their job correctly so let somebody else go up to bat.
Fuck, that stimulus money would've done more good if divided up to each american household which could use that money for paying off debts, buying new shit, etc, you know that thing that actually gets an economy going.
Kindredz
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Obama's stimulus bill? I thought it was bush's
People confuse the stimulus bill with the EESA(Emergency Economic Stabilization Act) that kept the banks from failing. Many people falsely attribute that to Obama but it was actually enacted before he was elected.
Ignorance of the facts/stupidity is running rampant in this country.
