Ruins of Rydos

author=MarkusT
And there has to do with places not people, i was correct in my spelling.

you were wrong.

why are you still talking? you made your point, you wouldn't buy this game and you can't handle criticism. move on, man.

where is the commercial information? how much it costs, and where to go to get it? I've been away for a few days so maybe I'm missing something about this new commercial business. or were you making this before and now that you can, you are making it commercial, so you don't know those things yet?

A mountain has been made out of a molehill. It is amazing that in 2012, we're still seeing "haters gonna hate" posts. Disagreeing and/or disapproving =/= hate. I guess chivalry isn't dead, what with all the white knighting going on up in here.

This is just a typical response to typical criticism, not an "argument." You can't just mini-mod the end to a conversation before people get a chance to clear the air. -_-

Edit: Okay, Liberty. We were allowed to clear the air. An accusation was made of us being "haters" when in reality no one gives nearly enough of a fuck to "hate" anyone. ...Obviously.

author=ReynardFrost

Clareain essentially hit it on the head.

Image macros are not allowed outside of the Welp forum, especially in instances like this where they are fanning the fires.

Backseat moderation is frowned upon, and I would rather see the air get cleared if it's done civilly. At first, that seemed to happen here. Reynard stated his opinion, Harmonic responded in kind and was entitled to defending himself. Both sides have said what needs to be said by now. No sense dragging it out and fueling/spreading the fire (per MarkusT's post and the subsequent roasting he received). Harmonic, Reynard, MarkusT, anyone else who has a bone to pick: if you have further issues, please take them to PM. Most people subscribed to this game want to see actual game discussion, not arguments that can be settled just as effectively in private. We all know where everyone stands here.

In situations like this, I'd like to see this:

Someone makes a bold/questionable statement. Someone else takes offense to that statement; this person responds and calls out the first person without overreacting and with tact and civility. Both have had a say, so the argument should then be taken to PM if it's going to get heated. Personal arguments spiral out of control once each side starts one-upping each other and bringing others into it. Not to mention the number of people who wander into the crossfire by themselves, starting all sorts of other bickering. That's not what game pages are for. Obviously I might still let the whole discussion play out in public, depending on the topic and the heat level of the debate. This time? No. I want people to debate, discuss, criticize, and be open as long as they're being courteous. But the line has to be drawn somewhere.

So basically:

Don't add fuel to a fading argument. A mountain really was made out of a molehill here, from both sides and from multiple users.
Take things to PMs if they can get or have gotten heated so that nobody else has to get involved. The more things are dragged out in public, the more people get involved, thus creating secondary arguments and...yeah. You get the idea.

Oh, no that was aimed at me.

Neat about the camp, just make sure that you give enough money that you're not always saving for items - a bit of cash overflow so you can save up some money.

Yeah, you were in the right to request that they take it to PM.

The last post was 2012... I'd say it's likely fairly dead. Or waaaay undercover.