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2015 Misaos - The CATEGORIZATIONS
Well if you want silly categories uh...
Most Colorful/Fun NPCs
Best Mystery
Best Game You Can Beat Under An Hour
Best Puns
Most Grimdark
Most Pastel
Most Pastel Grimdark
Most Obvious Plot Twist
Most Shocking Plot Twist
Hardest Game
Wackiest Premise
Cutest Mascot Characters
Best Character Customization
Most Colorful/Fun NPCs
Best Mystery
Best Game You Can Beat Under An Hour
Best Puns
Most Grimdark
Most Pastel
Most Pastel Grimdark
Most Obvious Plot Twist
Most Shocking Plot Twist
Hardest Game
Wackiest Premise
Cutest Mascot Characters
Best Character Customization
2014 Misaos - The RESULTATIONS
I will have to agree as well! While I like aspects of 2003, trying to make custom tilesets was soooo frustrating, mainly cuz 2k3's chipset space utilization isn't that good (more than half of the tilesheet space are for autotiles, a feature I don't really find all that useful save for a few occasions) and you really gotta play tetris with the rest of the tileset to get everything to fit. The 256 color limit is also really restraining, especially when it comes to hand-drawn lighting effects. Not to mention that NPC sprites are also tiny and it was a bit hard to convey height differences.
...believe me, I wanted to switch over to XP so bad, haha! (I mean, unlimited tileset size? 3 layers? come on!) But I consider 2k3 a good learning experience nevertheless.
...believe me, I wanted to switch over to XP so bad, haha! (I mean, unlimited tileset size? 3 layers? come on!) But I consider 2k3 a good learning experience nevertheless.
2014 Misaos - The RESULTATIONS
author=Merlandeseauthor=TheJudgeThis doesn't make sense. Neither of the things you mentioned are more than options in both engines, if not every engine. HOME/OFF are prime examples of NOT using default assets, aren't they? So how can that be a deterrent?author=Deacon BatistaHonestly the overly fancy art style of XP and the character sprites of VX Ace are what keeps me from really wanting to use said programs.
Glad most of the awards were won by a 2k3 game.
It's the resolution rather than the assets themselves. In a tile-and-pixel-art based engine, low resolution graphics tend to look nicer.
I wish there's an option in the engine to scale everything 2x but in the meantime a script will have to do.
2014 Misaos - The RESULTATIONS
author=nhubiOOOOOoh ok, so it was always there just not advertised.author=NightmarginNominations are available all year. You can nominate a game anytime after the voting period for the previous year, which basically means it's open now again (or will be soon) for any game that has had a download added since January 1, and that nomination period stays open until December 31st. We use the term Misao season very loosely, it's more 'the time of year when Kentona/Liberty/Shinan/GRS or someone else on the team reminds us to nominate something we've played'. Not when things we've played become available for nominations. It's only voting that has a short time period, generally around 2-3 weeks.
The download-vote idea sounds nice in theory! But I think it might fall flat cuz it would only apply to people planning to play it during misaos season and locks out the people who's played and enjoyed the game earlier in the year (unless you wanna keep nominations open all year, haha)
Can you nominate a game from the game's page itself? I don't remember seeing a nomination button or anything. I know there's a nomination page off to the side on the user profile/personal access page but.
Another idea can be to require a short blurb on why someone chose a particular game to nominate, and they'll have to be specific enough? For example something like "I think Painted Heart should be nominated for the best graphics category with its really cool watercolor aesthetic." and not "this games great".
2014 Misaos - The RESULTATIONS
author=TheJudgeauthor=AdditSounds fair to me.author=TheJudgeI think having a small team of selected officials, a Misao Committee, should decide the winners of each category after the nomination period closes and then picks out the top 3 in each particular category. So basically the nomination process would basically remain the same like before, with users nominating their favorite games, and what not, and then it just comes down to the Misao Committee at the end on deciding on what game should win and what not. This way the people elected to the Misao Committee wouldn’t have to basically play EVERY game that was released that year, just the ones that got nominated the most.
That would require either judges who are willing to sit down and play every single game listed.
OR
Have a system that allows a game to only be eligible to win one Misao. If it gets nominated for multiple ones, the category that has the most votes for it is the category it would win the award in, and all other categories would be open to other projects.
Also, we should change the rules a little about user’s eligibility when it comes to nominating a game to make things a bit more fair and cut down on any shady looking activity. These users have to have had their account open for more than 3 months and at least have more than 50 makerscore to allow eligibility for nominating any games for any Misaos.
Except it still wouldn't fix problem where the same 3 games might end up on top of the nominations list for every category.
The user eligibility thing makes sense to an extent (to weed out the votebots and sockpuppet accounts) Though I remember reading how people were mostly concerned about the game's popularity outside the site, which is a fair concern.
HOWEVER, I have a feeling some games might've got nominated and voted so much because they got the most exposure from simply being "buzzing" and being on the front page of this site all the time (and the reason why they're buzzing all the time is because they're trapped in a loop of neverending exposure. I'm looking at 1-2 game in particular that hasn't left that position for at least 8 months, if not more. Those games would probably seem like the face of the site for some people at this point.)
So there /is/ the glaring issue of heavy internal bias, and banning outside voters without changing the front page popularity system would all but guarantee the same pattern of one game winning everything forever. It's just a question of which game would get that privilege.
author=Liberty
We did think of a 3 game rule where a game could only be nominated for three topics tops. The thing is coming up with a way for it to be automated within the site.
That was most of the issues really. And not coming up with a definite plan. ^.^;
As to the above? Not to me. There are people who have been on the site for a long time and have 0 MS because they just don't bother contributing, yet play a lot of games. Also, it's not fair to lock people out from voting just because they aren't from RMN. We're not an exclusive site, guys. Granted, it is frustrating to see a crowd of people descend and vote but then leave. Maybe some stay, maybe they feel upset to hear that people think their votes shouldn't count.
I mean, if we're really down for excluding, we should only allow votes that are tied to a download from the game in question.
The download-vote idea sounds nice in theory! But I think it might fall flat cuz it would only apply to people planning to play it during misaos season and locks out the people who's played and enjoyed the game earlier in the year (unless you wanna keep nominations open all year, haha)
I wonder if there can be a gamejolt-like system where like, games on the site can have features synced with user accounts?
2014 Misaos - The RESULTATIONS
author=Addit
So another year, another Misao sweeping. Seriously, we really need to start talking about implementing some necessary changes to the voting / nominating system for next year’s Misaos, otherwise I fear that this will be an ongoing, continuing trend for even more years to come that will just continue to result in p**sing more people off.
yea I took a gander at the votes, it would've been a sweep for one game or another across most categories anyway, no matter how you cut it.
I'm guessing this is a longstanding problem and I'm also guessing that restrictions for "no more than one category per game" has been suggested before but never got implemented?
2014 Misaos - The RESULTATIONS
2014 Misaos - The VOTENING
author=Saileriusauthor=NightmarginWell, aside from it not running on Windows 8, Windows 8.1, or Windows 10, but that's 2k3's fault.author=Pizzajust personal preference then? nothing's broken? good.author=NightmarginIt's not that anything needs fixing. I'm confident that this is more of a matter of personal taste and experience, since everybody sings praises about the game, and I do believe that it deserves the good reception.author=Pizzak, what needs fixing?
The only one of these games that I've played is Oneshot... And I thought it was total trash.
I am the worst sort of person, it seems.
SPOILERS:Personally I just didn't enjoy the central gimmick of the game. While it's incredibly impressive that you guys were able to pull off so many things with 2k3, I thought that the idea of only being able to boot up the game once was a hindrance, especially in an Adventure game, a genre that benefits from being able to take time off and stew on stuff, think about puzzles, etc. To me being forced to sit there and play what most definitely isn't a short game in one sitting was sort of like putting the need to innovate above the player experience.
In addition to that, I thought the game suffered from the same pitfalls most other adventure titles do, namely being confusing and non-direct with player objectives. Putting the solution to a puzzle in the My Documents folder of a player's computer sounds really cool in concept, but the game offered no real hint that it operated outside the boundaries of the "game world", or that I should search around my own computer for answers. I wasted a lot of time looking around the world for the code, only to discover it by accident when browsing through stuff on my PC.
Besides the inherent problem with putting the code there, it brought up a question in my mind: What else did the game hide in my computer? It's not a good feeling to think that a game is screwing with your personal stuff, and it's not like 2k3 games have an uninstall option that would get rid of everything. Again, I think this is an example of putting the need to be innovative and new above the experience of the player.
I didn't make it past the first "blue" section of the game. So call me out on not giving it enough time if you want, maybe I'm just stupid for not being able to get past it, idk. I'm generally not very good at Adventure titles anyways.
Anyways, I hope I was clear about it. I didn't like it, and that's that. Perhaps "total trash" was a bad choice of words, so I'm sorry if I offended you by saying that, as it wasn't my intention.
tl;dr I'm a stupid asshat GO ME
It runs on Windows 8 and 8.1 just fine for us. Please send us a screenshot of your problem so we can investigate.
2014 Misaos - The VOTENING
author=Pizzaauthor=NightmarginIt's not that anything needs fixing. I'm confident that this is more of a matter of personal taste and experience, since everybody sings praises about the game, and I do believe that it deserves the good reception.author=Pizzak, what needs fixing?
The only one of these games that I've played is Oneshot... And I thought it was total trash.
I am the worst sort of person, it seems.
SPOILERS:
Personally I just didn't enjoy the central gimmick of the game. While it's incredibly impressive that you guys were able to pull off so many things with 2k3, I thought that the idea of only being able to boot up the game once was a hindrance, especially in an Adventure game, a genre that benefits from being able to take time off and stew on stuff, think about puzzles, etc. To me being forced to sit there and play what most definitely isn't a short game in one sitting was sort of like putting the need to innovate above the player experience.
In addition to that, I thought the game suffered from the same pitfalls most other adventure titles do, namely being confusing and non-direct with player objectives. Putting the solution to a puzzle in the My Documents folder of a player's computer sounds really cool in concept, but the game offered no real hint that it operated outside the boundaries of the "game world", or that I should search around my own computer for answers. I wasted a lot of time looking around the world for the code, only to discover it by accident when browsing through stuff on my PC.
Besides the inherent problem with putting the code there, it brought up a question in my mind: What else did the game hide in my computer? It's not a good feeling to think that a game is screwing with your personal stuff, and it's not like 2k3 games have an uninstall option that would get rid of everything. Again, I think this is an example of putting the need to be innovative and new above the experience of the player.
I didn't make it past the first "blue" section of the game. So call me out on not giving it enough time if you want, maybe I'm just stupid for not being able to get past it, idk. I'm generally not very good at Adventure titles anyways.
Anyways, I hope I was clear about it. I didn't like it, and that's that. Perhaps "total trash" was a bad choice of words, so I'm sorry if I offended you by saying that, as it wasn't my intention.
tl;dr I'm a stupid asshat GO ME
just personal preference then? nothing's broken? good.
2014 Misaos - The VOTENING
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