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[MAFIA] Prisoner's Dilemma. Game Over

I agree that lynching Shinan is a bad idea, and I'll happily vote for either Piano, psy or lib depending on what the general consensus is.

Piano and Liberty are more suspicious in my opinion. The biggest thing psy has going against him is his role, which as Ivory pointed out, is typically a scum role.

I can't make up my mind on which one of them to vote for. I guess for now I will vote #lynch piano but it's close.

As for Ozzy trying to hammer Shinan. Someone has to be the one that hammer votes, and in my opinion it's usually not scum, who are more cautious. Wasn't Ozzy thoughtlessly hamervoting on people in Avalon too?

The thing that is weird about that situation is how quickly he changed his mind AFTER casting what he thought was the hammer vote. I'm not sure how to take that, though I guess I'm glad that he did.

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author=Shinan
All that matters is that someone has to die. Preferably quickly.


In RMN, "quickly" is about 30 pages

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I'm not itching to lynch Shinan and in any case, I have been wanting to hear what you think.

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Emily and others think I was fishing for claims. I never asked anyone to claim a power role, and I didn't want them to. I wanted everyone to claim hated with me, that should be clear from my post. Fomar said something like this too.

Of course Fomar is going to react like that, it's his first game and he's not used to seeing that kind of weirdness and is reacting with his gut. Fomar seems townish to me, overall.

Not sure where I stand wrt Emily. Her accusation of me seems a bit ungenuine. I can't really see how that would make sense to her.

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The above post by Ozzy also reflects my views. I was about to say the same.

I am almost certain that one of Liberty, Piano man and wombats is scum. They are almost obsessed with each other (although wombats is not as crazy as the other two) and I can make very little of their mutual aligations.

One of them is scum, and trying to get the other killed, that seems likely. I don't have a strong preference for any one, they all seem equally bad to me, honestly.

I wouldn't be surprised to see a piano+lib or piano+wombats scumteam either, where they're doing this whole song and dance to distance themselves. If it's piano+wombats, then things have definitely gone very well for them. Both are in the clear for now, and psy claimed a role that's so useless that we will not suspect him if he lives tonight.

I'm not a fan of this Shinan vote. It feels much too quick, and there has been too little pushback. I would be very surprised if he flips scum. I don't have a choice but to hammer him now, as it's too late to vote for someone else I guess.

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I haven't finished reading up yet, but I've got the gist of it. Maybe I'm missing something in this post that was already clarified.

What I want to know, is how exactly psy's ability works. Does it tell you the difference between vanilla townie and vanilla goon?

If it does, then I think we should keep him alive for 2 more nights to confirm people.

But if his role doesn't tell the difference, then it's almost useless for us. Maybe he can identify the town PRs, but even then, how can we know for sure these are town PRs and not actually scum PRs?

Even if PSY investigates someone and finds that they have a PR tonight, and even if their role makes it obvious that they are town, how does this help us in any way? He cannot just post it here, since that would out them.

My conclusion is that, even if psy is town, we are gaining more information by lynchimg him than his role would have given us (unless his role can see the difference between townies and scum).

Now, the case against psy hasn't gotten any weaker. If he's scum, we can expect him to claim 100% of the time. It's almost impossible to verify his claim and it provides him with a lot of protection.

Even if he is a rolecop, he could still be scum. Rolecop (in my opinion) makes more sense as a scum role. Or perhaps one of his scum teammates had that role, and they are planning to pass that information to psy to verify him.

If he really is a town rolecop, then why would he claim in the way that he did? It was looking as if town would let him off anyway, so his claim badly timed, and it made it seem as if he actually wanted to claim.

The only possibility that we can rule out, is that PSY is vanilla town, in which case he would not have claimed. And his behavior would be strange, given that he is a town Rolecop.

Both of tese facts increase the odds of him being scum.

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author=ivoryjones
tnx pedantic nazis

At your service

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author=AlaskanEmily
author=ivoryjones
I am expecting to give him 3 and a half hours max. Anytime after than that if he still doesn't reply you lot might forget to hammer him.
Where does this number come from?

I also don't think people will just up and forget to vote.


I'm guessing she read Ozzy's post and figured we were very close to no-lynching. Otherwise, this post of hers made no sense at all. We're not going to spend the next 30 hours forgetting to vote.

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I'll also go ahead and #cancel my vote for Piano man, although it grieves me.

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Looking at Demonlords post history, he posted more reads than I remembered just now, so I don't feel as sure.