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Slip into Ruby part 1 - Object-oriented wha?
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Slip into Ruby part 1 - Object-oriented wha?
An idea for a new type of magic user (Grey Wizard)
That's a really cool idea, Killer Wolf.
My take on it is that magic (or spellcrafting as it'll be known) is only possible by having imprinted gems/runes/macguffins surgically implanted into the body, which draw their power directly from the spellcrafter's vitality to facilitate the effects (making the user physically weaker to the point where using conventional weaponry would be useless, and they're unable to support their weight in heavy armour) Most go with the forehead because it results in the most potent links, but there may also be minor spellcrafters who just have it done on the wrists or ears.
The procedure for implanting them is brutal and extremely painful, so only a handful of people have ever been known to have it done.
That's not as cool as your thing. :(
My take on it is that magic (or spellcrafting as it'll be known) is only possible by having imprinted gems/runes/macguffins surgically implanted into the body, which draw their power directly from the spellcrafter's vitality to facilitate the effects (making the user physically weaker to the point where using conventional weaponry would be useless, and they're unable to support their weight in heavy armour) Most go with the forehead because it results in the most potent links, but there may also be minor spellcrafters who just have it done on the wrists or ears.
The procedure for implanting them is brutal and extremely painful, so only a handful of people have ever been known to have it done.
That's not as cool as your thing. :(
Polymorphous Perversity (18+ NWS)
I think it was clear enough with Brooke. You can tell from the charset ce has a penis, it's more than obvious if you get into battle, and she asks you to "give her your ass" so she's either transgender or has a strapon. :P
I probably made the Gino/Gina thread sound worse than it is, but without you seeing it yourself I'm not sure how else to explain it. :P
The thing about the post-op point is that had there been anyone who mentioned it, it could easily have been taken as Calunio essentially going "Hey look, I am sensitive to the culture of the day! One of my NPCs made a reference to post-op transsexuals which obviously means I am sensitive and considerate!". My take on it is that it really doesn't matter what you are, who you are, where you come from, what you identify as etc. and my wish is that someday everyone will just see their fellow humans as just that. So personally I don't think it needed to be explicitly said; the player is free to imagine that some of the characters may be post-op transgender, but it isn't beaten into your skull with a brick, nor is the subject completely ignored.
I don't really think we're going to get anything else out of this topic that we haven't already said, but I thank you for the discussion and hope that I didn't say anything to offend you.
I probably made the Gino/Gina thread sound worse than it is, but without you seeing it yourself I'm not sure how else to explain it. :P
The thing about the post-op point is that had there been anyone who mentioned it, it could easily have been taken as Calunio essentially going "Hey look, I am sensitive to the culture of the day! One of my NPCs made a reference to post-op transsexuals which obviously means I am sensitive and considerate!". My take on it is that it really doesn't matter what you are, who you are, where you come from, what you identify as etc. and my wish is that someday everyone will just see their fellow humans as just that. So personally I don't think it needed to be explicitly said; the player is free to imagine that some of the characters may be post-op transgender, but it isn't beaten into your skull with a brick, nor is the subject completely ignored.
I don't really think we're going to get anything else out of this topic that we haven't already said, but I thank you for the discussion and hope that I didn't say anything to offend you.
Polymorphous Perversity (18+ NWS)
I know it's not black and white, but I disagree with your assessment of the representation:
The first transsexual you meet in the game is the "Tranny" (okay I will concede that this could have been more tastefully done) who will trick you into having sex. However, we have to keep in mind that this is localised to an area of the game where the antagonist is a minotaur who is kidnapping people and essentially screwing them crazy, so this behaviour is not limited to the transgenders.
The second is Brooke, who is an interesting case. Brooke didn't have to be transgender; ce could just as easily have been a woman or a man or something completely different. Brooke does not trick or force you into having sex; you get the choice to either have sex or pay cer. Okay, yeah, that's not much better, but at least it's a progression.
The main one I want to bring to your attention is Gino/Gina. At the beginning of the game when you meet Gino he's male. If you read James Tonguelash's book you can read about the experiment to transition him to a full female, and if you keep talking to Gino throughout the game you'll also hear his thoughts and feelings on it. As this was a forced transition and arguably not what Gino wanted, I'm not sure how well this functions as a commentary on the struggles of transgenders, but it's another portrayal.
The final example is the Archangel, who actually switches between genders during battle. Again, not a perfect portrayal but an example that the ones at Maze Mt West were not the only types in the game.
Edit: As an aside, I think having dominant women in there somewhere would have been a good idea. As for post-operation transmen/women...maybe there were some. If it's post-op, and they didn't specifically mention that (and why should they? It arguably never needed to be said because it doesn't change who they are) how would the protagonist have known otherwise?
The first transsexual you meet in the game is the "Tranny" (okay I will concede that this could have been more tastefully done) who will trick you into having sex. However, we have to keep in mind that this is localised to an area of the game where the antagonist is a minotaur who is kidnapping people and essentially screwing them crazy, so this behaviour is not limited to the transgenders.
The second is Brooke, who is an interesting case. Brooke didn't have to be transgender; ce could just as easily have been a woman or a man or something completely different. Brooke does not trick or force you into having sex; you get the choice to either have sex or pay cer. Okay, yeah, that's not much better, but at least it's a progression.
The main one I want to bring to your attention is Gino/Gina. At the beginning of the game when you meet Gino he's male. If you read James Tonguelash's book you can read about the experiment to transition him to a full female, and if you keep talking to Gino throughout the game you'll also hear his thoughts and feelings on it. As this was a forced transition and arguably not what Gino wanted, I'm not sure how well this functions as a commentary on the struggles of transgenders, but it's another portrayal.
The final example is the Archangel, who actually switches between genders during battle. Again, not a perfect portrayal but an example that the ones at Maze Mt West were not the only types in the game.
Edit: As an aside, I think having dominant women in there somewhere would have been a good idea. As for post-operation transmen/women...maybe there were some. If it's post-op, and they didn't specifically mention that (and why should they? It arguably never needed to be said because it doesn't change who they are) how would the protagonist have known otherwise?
Polymorphous Perversity (18+ NWS)
Sorry, I know I mentioned that the game wasn't going to cause radical change or anything but I wasn't implying that anyone specifically said otherwise, it was just part of my point.
Put it this way. If the transgenders in Polymorphous Perversity had been portrayed in a different way...if, say, the protagonist had genuine feelings for a transgender character, they treated sex as something special or were otherwise characterised, they would have been completely different from every other stereotype the game contained. That would actually have made them stand out MORE, and appeared to be giving them preferential treatment just because they're transgender. Affording privileges to a minority just because it's a minority can be almost as damaging as persecuting them. It's a token effort unless it was made specifically with the intention of improving the reception of said minority.
I'm not trying to belittle the suffering that the community has had to endure, nor am I condoning it and I dearly wish that one day soon it will be a thing of the past. However, can you honestly say with conviction that the trials and suffering of the transgendered are more important than every other minority that was portrayed in the game to the exclusion of all else? Can you sit there with a straight face and tell me that submissives, gay men and sadomasochists don't deserve the same respect?
It's not a simple matter of making every persecuted minority in the game look good, because that goes against the very point the narrative of the game was trying to make in the first place.
Put it this way. If the transgenders in Polymorphous Perversity had been portrayed in a different way...if, say, the protagonist had genuine feelings for a transgender character, they treated sex as something special or were otherwise characterised, they would have been completely different from every other stereotype the game contained. That would actually have made them stand out MORE, and appeared to be giving them preferential treatment just because they're transgender. Affording privileges to a minority just because it's a minority can be almost as damaging as persecuting them. It's a token effort unless it was made specifically with the intention of improving the reception of said minority.
I'm not trying to belittle the suffering that the community has had to endure, nor am I condoning it and I dearly wish that one day soon it will be a thing of the past. However, can you honestly say with conviction that the trials and suffering of the transgendered are more important than every other minority that was portrayed in the game to the exclusion of all else? Can you sit there with a straight face and tell me that submissives, gay men and sadomasochists don't deserve the same respect?
It's not a simple matter of making every persecuted minority in the game look good, because that goes against the very point the narrative of the game was trying to make in the first place.
Slip into Ruby part 1 - Object-oriented wha?
Slip into Ruby part 1 - Object-oriented wha?
I figure if people want to dig really deep into algorithms and programming theory there will be articles elsewhere that teach it. I'm really just here to get people started with using RGSS to customise their projects.
Slip into Ruby part 1 - Object-oriented wha?
They're good points, but I'm trying to explain it in more of an everyman sort of way without getting bogged down in theory and complex explanations. That's the sort of thing that people who aren't that savvy about programming aren't going to benefit from knowing.
Or to put it another way, I'm trying to teach the how more than the why. I can go into detailed explanations later once I've covered the basics.
Or to put it another way, I'm trying to teach the how more than the why. I can go into detailed explanations later once I've covered the basics.














