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author=Kevincalanor
I tested the '2' option...
Thanks for checking that out. Seems like there would be a lot of hoops to jump through, so I think it's probably best to go with Mute's suggestion of having two separate files, one for use with Masako and one without. Yeah, I'll have to maintain two files whenever I update Noriko, but I'd rather do that than force someone to install content they might not want.
ps. Yeah I got six mp's, and they even have a speace of time between them. x3
My apologies again. I don't know why RMN kept telling me there was an error. Live and learn :) .
Render was already taking a look at the grammar, you probably missed cause he said into a hide tag, maybe would be better to MP him about his progress, to avoid correcting the same parts twice and save you guys some time. ^^
Ah, okay. I actually sent Render a few things I found when I playtested Megumi as well, and am waiting to hear back from him because I know he's on vacation right now. At this point, maybe I should just hold off on any more playtesting of Eliza & c. until he's finished his review. I had started another batch of similar stuff, so just let me know what I should do with it.
Anyhow thanks for the heads up, I'll get these changes done.
Cool! By the way, I like Eliza's story quite a bit, although admittedly the grammar issues are quite distracting :| .
I didn't look at the story file until after each event happened, so I didn't know that talking to Miki about the bet would be such a huge pothole :( . It just seemed like a normal thing for <player> to do there.
Content creation (technical)
author=dewelar
Meanwhile, I've been trying to send a PM to Kevincalanor with the things I've discovered during my playtesting of the WolfyPack for the past couple of hours, but apparently that part of the RMN system is down. I'm going to post it here instead.
I guess I should have checked my outbox (believe it or not, this is the first time I've used the internal RMN mail), because even though I was getting errors, the message was still being sent. Sorry about that, Kevincalanor! I do have additional stuff, but I'm not going to mess with that again...
STORY 1
BRANCH A
"I can work if I need too"
- should be -
"I can work if I need to"
BRANCH B
"I can't even imagine how would be"
- should be -
"I can't even imagine how it would be"
"No one in either classes"
- should be -
"No one in either class"
(or, alternately, "No one in either of our classes")
BRANCH C
"as soon it doesn't affect Sakamoto"
- should be -
"as long as it doesn't affect Sakamoto"
STORY 4
"I just don't want to walk everywhere with a guy speaking"
- should be -
"I just don't want to walk everywhere with a guy saying"
STORY 5
BRANCH B
"She was already acting like that when we meet."
- should be -
"She was already acting like that when we met."
"Yeah, I hope you can handle with that"
- should be -
"Yeah, I hope you can handle that"
STORY 6
"No doubt why she's the most popular girl on the school"
- should be -
"No doubt why she's the most popular girl in the school"
"Stalking shihoko again?"
- should be -
"Stalking Shihoko again?"
"That's kind of sad seeing from here."
- should be -
"That's kind of sad, watching from here."
"only to find more four guys spying the training"
- should be -
"only to find four more guys spying the training"
"<i>This don't make it acceptable.</i>"
- should be -
"<i>THIS doesn't make it acceptable.</i>"
"Well, let me ask you one thing thing then"
- should be -
"Well, let me ask you one thing then"
BRANCH C
"she's the most charismatic girl on school"
- should be -
"she's the most charismatic girl in school."
(she came at the window to see Shihoko too.)
- should be -
(She came to the window to see Shihoko too.)
"There's less than half people crowding"
- should be -
"There's less than half the people crowding"
(or, alternately, "There's less than half that number of
people crowding"
"As if I had this much of spare time..."
- should be -
"As if I had that much spare time..."
BRANCH A
"I can work if I need too"
- should be -
"I can work if I need to"
BRANCH B
"I can't even imagine how would be"
- should be -
"I can't even imagine how it would be"
"No one in either classes"
- should be -
"No one in either class"
(or, alternately, "No one in either of our classes")
BRANCH C
"as soon it doesn't affect Sakamoto"
- should be -
"as long as it doesn't affect Sakamoto"
STORY 4
"I just don't want to walk everywhere with a guy speaking"
- should be -
"I just don't want to walk everywhere with a guy saying"
STORY 5
BRANCH B
"She was already acting like that when we meet."
- should be -
"She was already acting like that when we met."
"Yeah, I hope you can handle with that"
- should be -
"Yeah, I hope you can handle that"
STORY 6
"No doubt why she's the most popular girl on the school"
- should be -
"No doubt why she's the most popular girl in the school"
"Stalking shihoko again?"
- should be -
"Stalking Shihoko again?"
"That's kind of sad seeing from here."
- should be -
"That's kind of sad, watching from here."
"only to find more four guys spying the training"
- should be -
"only to find four more guys spying the training"
"<i>This don't make it acceptable.</i>"
- should be -
"<i>THIS doesn't make it acceptable.</i>"
"Well, let me ask you one thing thing then"
- should be -
"Well, let me ask you one thing then"
BRANCH C
"she's the most charismatic girl on school"
- should be -
"she's the most charismatic girl in school."
(she came at the window to see Shihoko too.)
- should be -
(She came to the window to see Shihoko too.)
"There's less than half people crowding"
- should be -
"There's less than half the people crowding"
(or, alternately, "There's less than half that number of
people crowding"
"As if I had this much of spare time..."
- should be -
"As if I had that much spare time..."
author=Marrend
Considering this, I don't believe there is a way to have a story be a condition without that story existing. In respect to what dewelar wants to do, I can't see how that would work without requiring Masako's content.
Hmmm...so my choices are:
1. Remove any references to Masako altogether
2. Spoil the easter egg by either having separate files or forcing the user to have Masako installed.
3. Leave everything as it is and blame Masako's psi powers for the user's weird responses
Despite the temptation, I think I will rule out '3' ;). If I go with '2', I'm going to have to do a fair amount of rewriting, because if I'm going to do it, I'm going to do it properly. The reactions of Masako and <player> to each other would be dependent on their status, which means I'd have to run the whole thing past Marrend before actually posting anything. Also, I'd have to take into account whether Masako has disappeared, because if she has I presume I'd have to default to option '1'...
Gah, it's almost enough to make me want to scrap the whole thing...
Content creation (technical)
author=Marrend
With respect to the "easter egg", does Masako's tachie show up on the same screen as Noriko's? If not, I'd be okay if you put in Masako's tachie into Noriko's OTHER slots (that's what ye olde Emiko did, in a kinda-sorta way), and do it that way. Otherwise, I'm thinking that including Masako's non-story content with Noriko could still work for your purpose.
I wasn't necessarily intending to display Masako's tachie. All I'm trying to do is, when Noriko brings up Masako, have <player>'s comments be different depending on whether or not he's actually met Masako.
Meanwhile, I've been trying to send a PM to Kevincalanor with the things I've discovered during my playtesting of the WolfyPack for the past couple of hours, but apparently that part of the RMN system is down. I'm going to post it here instead. It's long, and mostly spelling/grammar stuff, so I'm putting it behind the button:
Is everyone bumping into the player supposed to be a joke? If so, that's kind of cool.
Now, here are some fixes:
STORY 1
"Everyone of you will have to work"
- should be -
"Every one of you will have to work"
"Exactly the reaction I've expected from you."
- should be -
"Exactly the reaction I expected from you."
(or, alternately, "Exactly the reaction I'd have expected from you.")
BRANCH A
"Yes. Raffle, you aren't"
- should be -
"Yes, raffle. That way, you aren't"
"Kazukiho, you will work with Nakagima."
Is that Miki? Her last name is spelled "Nakajima", with a "j"
"she didn't raised her hand"
- should be -
"she didn't raise her hand"
"I could see a draw in her notebook"
- should be -
"I could see a drawing in her notebook"
BRANCH B
"to be sneaky on the girls"
- should be -
"to be sneaky with the girls" (I think that's what you mean here)
"A needed evil I suppose."
- should be -
"A necessary evil, I suppose."
"drooling with the sight of her"
- should be -
"drooling at the sight of her"
"It is exactly the true."
- should be -
"It is exactly the truth."
(or, alternately, "It is exactly true.")
STORY 2
"I wonder if mine luck can get any worse."
- should be -
"I wonder if my luck can get any worse."
STORY 3
(We worked for just half-hour until she stopped.)
- should be -
(We worked for just a half-hour until she stopped.)
"I'll mark up some other time to we meet up here."
- should be -
"I'll mark up some other time for us to meet up here."
That's all for now...I'll try to do some more after dinner.
Now, here are some fixes:
STORY 1
"Everyone of you will have to work"
- should be -
"Every one of you will have to work"
"Exactly the reaction I've expected from you."
- should be -
"Exactly the reaction I expected from you."
(or, alternately, "Exactly the reaction I'd have expected from you.")
BRANCH A
"Yes. Raffle, you aren't"
- should be -
"Yes, raffle. That way, you aren't"
"Kazukiho, you will work with Nakagima."
Is that Miki? Her last name is spelled "Nakajima", with a "j"
"she didn't raised her hand"
- should be -
"she didn't raise her hand"
"I could see a draw in her notebook"
- should be -
"I could see a drawing in her notebook"
BRANCH B
"to be sneaky on the girls"
- should be -
"to be sneaky with the girls" (I think that's what you mean here)
"A needed evil I suppose."
- should be -
"A necessary evil, I suppose."
"drooling with the sight of her"
- should be -
"drooling at the sight of her"
"It is exactly the true."
- should be -
"It is exactly the truth."
(or, alternately, "It is exactly true.")
STORY 2
"I wonder if mine luck can get any worse."
- should be -
"I wonder if my luck can get any worse."
STORY 3
(We worked for just half-hour until she stopped.)
- should be -
(We worked for just a half-hour until she stopped.)
"I'll mark up some other time to we meet up here."
- should be -
"I'll mark up some other time for us to meet up here."
That's all for now...I'll try to do some more after dinner.
Content creation (technical)
author=Kevincalanorauthor=MuteEliza's 0.9 version have a major bug, I released a fix to it a few posts later, but the that download won't work correctly without it. :p
Kuwabara Emiko
Murakami Megumi
Yamisaki Eliza
You can download the pre-release version that I've sent to Render here ^^
Thanks! Have downloaded the linked file along with the other two for playtesting, of which I will hopefully do some tonight. Megumi wouldn't load due to an error in the coding (Story 17 has PLACE = Class A instead of Classroom A), which I have now fixed on my copy.
ETA: Ah, I see this was pointed out on the Artistic board. Bad form,
Content creation (technical)
author=Marrendauthor=dewelarWas there not warning that some content would not be playable, and let you play anyway? Has this feature been removed?
Specifically, I'd like there to be a way to have a story file look for other custom content and not crash the program if it doesn't find it.
Not sure how it worked before, but for me it just says that masako_story.txt wasn't found, and the game failed to start.
The line of code is simply:
A: 3 DONE IN masako_story.txt
...where BRANCH A contains the custom dialogue only, leading to a JUMP to where the two dialogues converge. It would happen twice.
author=Marrendauthor=dewelarUhhhhh, you could put Masako's tachie, profile, and music into Noriko's directory structure, and not include her story? However, this is not a move I actually support. What I would support is having people require Masako to be installed, and let them decide to disable her story (or not) through the Custom Content option in the main menu.
Since I have some places within Noriko's file that refer to Masako (both are in the debate club), and I would like to be able to have some custom dialogue that is dependent on Masako having been introduced, just without forcing the player to have Masako installed in order to use Noriko.
I am sorta assuming that Masako would have an alternate INTRODUCE event within Noriko's story in the case that her story is disabled this way.
I'm not sure exactly how this would work. The current Noriko story file just has Masako mentioned by name, and if the player doesn't have Masako installed that part would not change, so there should be no need for an actual INTRODUCE event.
I guess what I wanted was for the Masako content to be kind of an "easter egg", and giving the player any kind of clue that he needs Masako installed would spoil it. This was actually motivated by what happens in my current file when the player does have Masako installed. I hadn't run a full playthrough with both Noriko and Masako until yesterday, and when I did I realized how awkward it is when the player is being tutored by Masako, and when Noriko talks about her his inner thoughts are along the lines of "Oh, yeah, Masako, I've vaguely heard about her." It was just jarring. It would just be unfortunate if my only choices were to either spoil the surprise or to eliminate it altogether.
While I'm here, I found a minor issue in the prologue. During the scene where <player> sees Keiko and Akari in the hall, there's a line of his thoughts that reads "(Oh what do I care)" with no punctuation at all. There should at least be a question mark at the end, and probably a comma after "Oh". I've seen a few others, but haven't started a list yet, and was wondering if this was the place to put them, or maybe just submit them to Dozen for the request list. Also, what do I do if I find stuff like this in the finished custom content from the folks who aren't around anymore (e.g., there are quite a number of spelling/grammar issues with Yuu's story)?
ETA: Have now started making a list for the main game :) .
Content creation (technical)
author=Mute
Have a separate download that gives you a copy of noriko_story.txt with custom content, telling users to replace the 'clean' copy with the edited copy if they want to use custom content.
*smacks self in forehead* Yeah, separate downloads...I should have thought of that myself. Thanks for that, the list of playtesting stuff, and making me feel like an idiot all in one go :) .
Content creation (technical)
On a completely different topic...
I've been doing some playthroughs with Noriko, trying to see where things might be improved, and also going through some of the custom content that I haven't seen (Why in blazes does Joruri want to block me from raising my attributes? Also, I have discovered that it's a bit difficult for me to go digging for the stuff that needs playtesting, so if anyone wants to point me to where I can download such files I would be grateful...). I know we just had an update to the game, but there was something I'd noted ages ago that probably got lost in the shuffle. Specifically, I'd like there to be a way to have a story file look for other custom content and not crash the program if it doesn't find it. Since I have some places within Noriko's file that refer to Masako (both are in the debate club), and I would like to be able to have some custom dialogue that is dependent on Masako having been introduced, just without forcing the player to have Masako installed in order to use Noriko.
I realize this is probably not possible due to the vagaries of custom content, but maybe there's some way around it? The only thing I can think of at this time is to have the custom code commented out, and someone who wants to see it would have to manually edit Noriko's story file to remove the hashes, but that would kind of spoil the fun :( .
I've been doing some playthroughs with Noriko, trying to see where things might be improved, and also going through some of the custom content that I haven't seen (Why in blazes does Joruri want to block me from raising my attributes? Also, I have discovered that it's a bit difficult for me to go digging for the stuff that needs playtesting, so if anyone wants to point me to where I can download such files I would be grateful...). I know we just had an update to the game, but there was something I'd noted ages ago that probably got lost in the shuffle. Specifically, I'd like there to be a way to have a story file look for other custom content and not crash the program if it doesn't find it. Since I have some places within Noriko's file that refer to Masako (both are in the debate club), and I would like to be able to have some custom dialogue that is dependent on Masako having been introduced, just without forcing the player to have Masako installed in order to use Noriko.
I realize this is probably not possible due to the vagaries of custom content, but maybe there's some way around it? The only thing I can think of at this time is to have the custom code commented out, and someone who wants to see it would have to manually edit Noriko's story file to remove the hashes, but that would kind of spoil the fun :( .
Content creation (technical)
author=pegasoauthor=dewelarI'm cool with changing it. I wasn't married to the name... (-5 for pun usage.)
Well, "Mai Waifu" is the Japanese cognate of "my wife", and is often used by fanboys/otaku to refer to their favorite VN/anime/manga/hentai/whatever character. It's often seen as a bit creepy, and can have sexual overtones. I would strongly advise against using that as a character name, robot or no.
*laughs* I'm thinking of the all-ages nature of the game. If it weren't for that, I'd have no problem with the name either. Flowerthief would be the one to make the final call on its appropriateness.
Any suggestions, anyone? Something along the lines of something technical I'm thinking... I'm pretty bad at Japanese naming, so I appreciate the help.
Well, if you want to stick with allusion to something else, you could always call her Ping.
Content creation (technical)
Well, "Mai Waifu" is the Japanese cognate of "my wife", and is often used by fanboys/otaku to refer to their favorite VN/anime/manga/hentai/whatever character. It's often seen as a bit creepy, and can have sexual overtones. I would strongly advise against using that as a character name, robot or no.













