UBON'S PROFILE

you aren't the one I had in mind with that, honestly. I disagree that 'people getting offended for offense's sake' is enough of a thing to merit a place in this kind of discussion, and feel that it does muddy the topic of representation when someone gives everyone else an excuse to assume that those complaints are just being made for attention, but there have been far worse offenders in here.

author=Sated
Normally, it's the people who think that a topic is pointless that are the ones you most need to be trying to engage. But if you're only interested in preaching to the choir then go ahead, see how much of a difference that makes.

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the ones who think this topic is pointless have, clearly, made up their minds. after ten pages of bad-faith arguments aimed at shutting down or muddying the discussion, I don't think anyone here is obligated to provide free lessons to people who strut in saying 'okay, but now I wanna learn! honest! but first a vitriolic tangent about those dratted SJWs!'

also: not every discussion in this vein has to be an entry-level topic aimed at convincing outsiders. sometimes it's productive for people with prior experience to discuss things on their own level, to come to a fuller understanding of the subject.

really, though. I have to question what, exactly, is driving some people to pretend that certain people in this thread are 'just trying to learn' or whatever. if all you can manage is to try and convince people that they're obligated to talk things out with people whose only interest is burying the discussion and attacking vulnerable people, then your input really isn't needed here.

you have to accept that some people won't agree with you, sure. but you also have to accept that some people aren't worth the time or effort to talk to, and ignoring that to try and push people into discussing things with this forum's incredibly obvious gamergate shill, for instance, is nothing but another diversionary tactic. cutting out the bullshit isn't 'creating an echo chamber' or whatever.

author=slash
Yea, for sure! It's definitely easier now than ever to make online games, but (at least with Unity) it still requires a little programming know-how. I've definitely seen some pretty cool little hobby games with online components tho, like Moirai.

OH FUCK I REMEMBER THIS ONE

like, barely? which is probably for the best, so I can go in relatively blank. I remember it sounding neat, but I didn't get a chance to give it a look while it was fresh in my mind!

glad to hear there are more options for it now than there were, at least. I haven't looked into the possibilities seriously myself, so going 'oh woe that this thing is out of reach for indies' was pretty premature!

e: okay, that was neat, but I don't think the person who played before me was taking things seriously.

I'd dig that! I'm honestly pretty sad that implementing online stuff is complex and demanding enough to place it beyond most hobbyists -- imagine all the cool experimental stuff people could do if it was easier!

seems decent on the whole, but I've only just checked back in myself so

~who knows~