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demondestiny
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Closeauthor=Blitzen link=topic=1099.msg16371#msg16371 date=1210719985
Willow 2 - Return of Burglecut. Coming soon to a theatre near you.
hey, this topic is about indiana jones, not this. Create your own topic. :(
demondestiny
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This just came out today. Has anyone seen it yet, of course this is a movie i have been eagerly waiting for so i saw it straight away this morning. As expected i found it to be quite good and for Harrison ford's age he still acts like his 20 years younger. This is definitely a movie you should see.
From the movie reviewer on the radio, he said that it's not as good as Raiders of the Lost Ark, but definitely just as good as Last Crusade.
I am totally fine with this.
I am totally fine with this.
yeah i just saw this film today. Was quite good and enjoyable but i don't find it compares to raiders of the lost ark. That was by far the best of the series.
Meh.
I repeat: meh.
The film was so-so, perhaps better than the second, but not near as good as the first or third.
The premise is too far out there (really!), even for an Indy flick. Kinda kills the expected atmosphere.
I repeat: meh.
The film was so-so, perhaps better than the second, but not near as good as the first or third.
The premise is too far out there (really!), even for an Indy flick. Kinda kills the expected atmosphere.
TMAC
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Agreed. I can't even rank it higher than Temple of Doom, however meh is the perfect way to describe it.
The first half of the film felt Indy'esque enough, but like kentona said, when the premise was fully realized later on, it sucked big. By the end it didn't feel anything like an Indiana Jones movie, except for some puzzle/trap scenes. I can only assume Lucas was relieving himself in the bathroom when he came up with most of the story. That and the recent(relative) trend of Spielberg and Lucas stroking their CGI sticks continued, as the film had so much CGI it felt out of place in most scenes. I really wish they stuck with more traditional sets/filmed on location and the use of good ol' pyrotechnics.
On another note, I had no complaints with the actors/actresses, including Shia LeBeouf. I remember a lot of people worrying about LeBeouf being in it, but he did a decent job and was not, by far, one of the films major problems. Actually his character was semi-amusing and served as a pretty good side-kick roll.
The first half of the film felt Indy'esque enough, but like kentona said, when the premise was fully realized later on, it sucked big. By the end it didn't feel anything like an Indiana Jones movie, except for some puzzle/trap scenes. I can only assume Lucas was relieving himself in the bathroom when he came up with most of the story. That and the recent(relative) trend of Spielberg and Lucas stroking their CGI sticks continued, as the film had so much CGI it felt out of place in most scenes. I really wish they stuck with more traditional sets/filmed on location and the use of good ol' pyrotechnics.
On another note, I had no complaints with the actors/actresses, including Shia LeBeouf. I remember a lot of people worrying about LeBeouf being in it, but he did a decent job and was not, by far, one of the films major problems. Actually his character was semi-amusing and served as a pretty good side-kick roll.
maladroithim
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author=Kentontius Maximus link=topic=1099.msg17657#msg17657 date=1211640851
The premise is too far out there (really!), even for an Indy flick. Kinda kills the expected atmosphere.
Oh come on at the end of the first movie the WRATH OF GOD comes forth from a giant box and smites the Nazis. I think you're forgetting how ridiculous Indy movies are.
Anyway I don't know if I have commented yet or not but this is the best movie of 2008 so far.
Seriously, the Wrath of God smiting the Nazis fit better that Indy 4's premise.
Iron Man > Indy 4. Heck, I enjoyed Leatherheads more.
Iron Man > Indy 4. Heck, I enjoyed Leatherheads more.
trance2
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I'm partial to Last Crusade myself.
I saw Indy 4 yesterday afternoon, and I'd have to agree with kentona. It was, by no means, a bad movie, but it wasn't really the best by any standards, really. There were some good scenes, but some of the timing was off, and then of course there's the literally out-of-this-world premise. I forgive them somewhat for the whole "zomg aliens" thing because you can't really talk about the Crystal Skulls without mentioning them (that's part of the whole legend); but as is, they could've chosen a better artifact, even though there's not many crazy ones left (they covered the two big archaeological treasures: Ark of the Covenant and the Holy Grail).
And if anyone's wondered what I mean by "timing," I mean the timing of the lines. A good example would be the scene when Shia Lebouf is trying to intimidate the two KGB agents and Indy says "Kid, it looks like you brought a knife" (shows the guns) "to a gunfight." It would've been a better line if they had pulled them a few seconds after Shia pulled the knife out and Indy said the whole line without the pause.
I'll have to admit, though, I squealed when I saw Shia riding down the platform on the motorcycle in the leather jacket. :3
I saw Indy 4 yesterday afternoon, and I'd have to agree with kentona. It was, by no means, a bad movie, but it wasn't really the best by any standards, really. There were some good scenes, but some of the timing was off, and then of course there's the literally out-of-this-world premise. I forgive them somewhat for the whole "zomg aliens" thing because you can't really talk about the Crystal Skulls without mentioning them (that's part of the whole legend); but as is, they could've chosen a better artifact, even though there's not many crazy ones left (they covered the two big archaeological treasures: Ark of the Covenant and the Holy Grail).
And if anyone's wondered what I mean by "timing," I mean the timing of the lines. A good example would be the scene when Shia Lebouf is trying to intimidate the two KGB agents and Indy says "Kid, it looks like you brought a knife" (shows the guns) "to a gunfight." It would've been a better line if they had pulled them a few seconds after Shia pulled the knife out and Indy said the whole line without the pause.
I'll have to admit, though, I squealed when I saw Shia riding down the platform on the motorcycle in the leather jacket. :3
maladroithim
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SPOILERS GOD
There is also the city of Atlantis, which was the premise for the excellent SCUMM adventure game.
There is also the city of Atlantis, which was the premise for the excellent SCUMM adventure game.
Anytime stuff was happening, it was great. I loved the bike chase and also the big scene in the jungle.
The premise was pretty far out there. It fits fine with Indy, but I'm just not a fan of it.
The premise was pretty far out there. It fits fine with Indy, but I'm just not a fan of it.
TMAC
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author=Brandon the Able, Esquire link=topic=1099.msg18056#msg18056 date=1211997132
SPOILERS GOD
There is also the city of Atlantis, which was the premise for the excellent SCUMM adventure game.
Yes, and yes.
I couldn't help but think of Fate of Atlantis while watching Indy IV and realize that a LucasArts adventure game from '92 was far superior to what was being projected in front of me. Hell, there's plenty of nifty artifacts and legends. The Lance of Longinus, Gram/Balmung, The Book of Thoth and Tezcatlipoca's Smoking Mirror to name a few. Those all have the possibility of being abused by some ner'do'well villains and whatnot.
maladroithim
1495
author=TMAC link=topic=1099.msg18063#msg18063 date=1212004501
Yes, and yes.
I couldn't help but think of Fate of Atlantis while watching Indy IV and realize that a LucasArts adventure game from '92 was far superior to what was being projected in front of me. Hell, there's plenty of nifty artifacts and legends. The Lance of Longinus, Gram/Balmung, The Book of Thoth and Tezcatlipoca's Smoking Mirror to name a few. Those all have the possibility of being abused by some ner'do'well villains and whatnot.
Indiana Jones and the Lady of the Lake
Blitzen
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Some ideas for Indiana Jones plotlines include:
Indiana Jones and the War Stone
Indiana Jones and the Fist of Fortune
Indiana Jones and the Clockwork Army
I could go on, if you like. ;D
Indiana Jones and the War Stone
Indiana Jones and the Fist of Fortune
Indiana Jones and the Clockwork Army
I could go on, if you like. ;D
trance2
500
author=TMAC link=topic=1099.msg18063#msg18063 date=1212004501I was thinking about this after watching the movie. Isn't that that spear that pierced the side of Jesus? It'd fit with the semi-religious theme they had going (the Ark, strange Indian death-god-worshiping religion, Holy Grail).
Hell, there's plenty of nifty artifacts and legends. The Lance of Longinus, Gram/Balmung, The Book of Thoth and Tezcatlipoca's Smoking Mirror to name a few. Those all have the possibility of being abused by some ner'do'well villains and whatnot.
Also, I wouldn't call one vague scene a SPOILAR. But that's just me.
maladroithim
1495
author=Lady Trance the Demure link=topic=1099.msg18094#msg18094 date=1212014135
I was thinking about this after watching the movie. Isn't that that spear that pierced the side of Jesus? It'd fit with the semi-religious theme they had going (the Ark, strange Indian death-god-worshiping religion, Holy Grail).
Also, I wouldn't call one vague scene a SPOILAR. But that's just me.
Also note that religious worship is a theme in Indy 4 also.
Shadowtext
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author=Lady Trance the Demure link=topic=1099.msg18094#msg18094 date=1212014135The Spear of Destiny / Lance of Longinus (actually two different artifacts, but they've been conflated in popular culture so we may as well treat them as one) actually has a pretty neat history going for it, too. Hitler was searching for the Lance of Longinus frantically, because of the legend that whoever controlled the Spear would have the power to rule the world. He apparently found it. And Patton was also pretty into the occult, and had his own researchers look at the artifact they captured from the nazi forces and his guys confirmed that it was indeed the "true" Lance of Longinus. (I have yet to read anything that actually details how they came to this conclusion or really any evidence behind it, but we're talking folklore here so it's not like verifiability is a huge deal) After the war was well and safely over, Patton returned the Lance to Germany, and I think today the "real lance" is kept in the Museum of Vienna. I forget if that's the specific place or the right name for the museum, but it's what I can remember at the moment. Wikipedia would have it.author=TMAC link=topic=1099.msg18063#msg18063 date=1212004501I was thinking about this after watching the movie. Isn't that that spear that pierced the side of Jesus? It'd fit with the semi-religious theme they had going (the Ark, strange Indian death-god-worshiping religion, Holy Grail).
Hell, there's plenty of nifty artifacts and legends. The Lance of Longinus, Gram/Balmung, The Book of Thoth and Tezcatlipoca's Smoking Mirror to name a few. Those all have the possibility of being abused by some ner'do'well villains and whatnot.
The cool part here....soon after America took control of the Lance of Longinus, World War II was won by the allies, and America unleashed the atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki....totally pwning the rest of the world (except Russia) and more or less immediately being elevated to the status of Super Power. And now we're the sole remaining super power (for another couple of years, until China catches up).
The Spear of Destiny part may be even older than the Lance of Longinus part. Pagan cultures have had for a long time the concept of an ancient and powerful spear that keeps showing up throughout history that would give people power. This is where the part about it having "the power to rule the world" probably comes from. The Lance of Longinus, on the other hand, was bathed in the blood of god. Some traditions (okay, possibly just Evangelion. I don't know if it was part of the tradition before that, but I've definitely seen it since then) have it that "since it cut God, it now has the power to pierce anything." So not only does it have a deep destiny/spiritual power, but a huge physical power as well.
I've digressed a bit. SO THE POINT IS: We've got an artifact in recent history (just the correct time period for Indiana Jones, too) with some really ripe material for turning into an epic that fits in perfectly with the Indiana Jones mythos.
...but I think the problem might be that, if anything, it was too obvious. The thing would feel like a rehash of the others. Most of the complaints here seem to be about how too many liberties were taken with the franchise in this one....but that's better than just sticking to what you've already done, isn't it?
demondestiny
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author=WIP link=topic=1099.msg18062#msg18062 date=1212004343
Anytime stuff was happening, it was great. I loved the bike chase and also the big scene in the jungle.
The premise was pretty far out there. It fits fine with Indy, but I'm just not a fan of it.
Yeah, the fight scenes in the movie were pretty good. The scene in the jungle would have been my favourite, had a lot of action.
