PHOENIX WRIGHT: ACE MAFIA

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Oops, made a mistake there. There's actually just one 1 subordinate. My bad. :$
CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK
On sunny days, I go out walking
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How would you die if I was protecting you? That's what protecting someone means. That you don't die. Do you mean if I died in the night? Because....you know. bulletproof.

Also, I can confirm that, at the very least, Trihan is telling the truth about the power his role has. Viola matches up with the flavor I got.

There might be a roleblocker present that would disable CAVE's powers and then the mafia could kill him off. I don't know if disablement will disable bulletproof too though.


Roleblockers only prevent people from acting, typically, not their passive abilities.

Because now you’ve come out, won’t you just get killed at night? You’re a smart player, but I’m not sure if you revealing who you’re protecting next is a good idea either. If the mafia kill you tonight, you’ve just framed Trihan =(


Mafia has to target me during two individual nightphases to kill me. That's two cop investigations/tracker tracks that would just be unstoppable if mafia chose to focus on me. Subordinates gain nothing from targeting me, and I could be watched as well, so I'm pretty confident I won't die before I reveal a scumbo.

I still don't feel that lynching Idida is a good idea today since he is going to be modkilled if he keeps this up.
CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK
On sunny days, I go out walking
1142
author=ivoryjones
Oops, made a mistake there. There's actually just one 1 subordinate. My bad. :$


I was going to ask how you figured, but the OP has been edited...there's only one subordinate now? That is odd.

Anyway, yeah, 8 vs 4. Which means an incorrect lynch today could potentially put us at 5 vs 4 if whoever is doing the second kill hits town again. BUT not lynching at all would put us at 6 vs 4, which would also mean that we would have to lynch but we would have more people to pick from and a greater chance of mislynching.

I'm still feeling pretty good about Zeuzio/Mirrormasq.


CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK
On sunny days, I go out walking
1142
I'm not really sure why Gourd_Clae said that the town is overpowered. I know that my role is, in a sense, but I don't think he expected me to use it in this fashion. There's a lot of scum for how many townies we have.
Huh? So I wasn't sleepy and there were 2 subordinates? :S
Trihan
"It's more like a big ball of wibbly wobbly...timey wimey...stuff."
3359
Now that our roles are out in the open, CAVE, I propose we spend whatever time we have left working together to establish a bloc.

Basically, the way I see this working is that we agree on who we want to investigate, I use my power at night to give you someone's role in exchange for voting for a person we agree is suspicious, and hopefully we'll get at least one confirmed person before one of us snuffs it. What do you think?
Trihan
"It's more like a big ball of wibbly wobbly...timey wimey...stuff."
3359
There were two subordinates in the list originally, but I believe this was caused by Gourd mistakenly telling me I was a subordinate instead of ?????. He thought there were two but there's really just one and me.
CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK
On sunny days, I go out walking
1142
Unless I'm going crazy, Ivory.

Sounds fine to me, Trihan.

Scumdar:

Yellow Magic,
Zeuzio,
Marrend,
Mirrormasq,
I'd go for LWG too maybe.

But we should not name who we're gonna vote or whose role you're gonna reveal beforehand.


So how does your role work Trihan?
During the night I can offer to reveal a player's role to someone in exchange for them voting for a person of my choice. As should be obvious by now, last night I offered to give Chearlie's role to CAVE if he voted for ldida1.

Do you have Chearlie's role? Or do you only get to know it if/when he votes for ldida1 and then you'll both know it? Or will only CAVE know the role and you only "give it" in an in-character way?


Also is bullet-proof only good for one use? So after someone tries to kill you (CAVE) once you'll die?

If I understand this correctly now and if we take everything at face value (which I always tend to do anyway) Trihan and CAVE_DOG are who they say they are. Kyrsty is not a murderer (because CAVE_DOG did not die), we'll know Chearlie's role if CAVE_DOG attempts to lynch ldida1. (because of Trihan's powers?)

So what are the results of the next night's investigations? Trihan investigates and CAVE_DOG protects him?
CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK
On sunny days, I go out walking
1142
We all have chearlie's role. He's dead. That's why I'm not bothering with Idida now.

If I understand this correctly now and if we take everything at face value (which I always tend to do anyway) Trihan and CAVE_DOG are who they say they are. Kyrsty is not a murderer (because CAVE_DOG did not die),


But yes. That is what we're going to do tonight. This will also confirm Trihan as town if I live which is good since he himself has said that he had the ability to choose between town and mafia. The last thing I want at LYLO is some mafia princess screwing things up.
Trihan
"It's more like a big ball of wibbly wobbly...timey wimey...stuff."
3359
Basically if the person I choose to visit ends the next day with their vote on the person I specified, they will be told the person's role who I chose to be revealed. I will not be told what it is.

For example: Night 1 I told CAVE to vote for ldida1 in exchange for Chearlie's role. Had Chearlie not died and CAVE ended today voting for ldida1, he'd have been told Chearlie was Mia Fey, but I wouldn't know.
Alright. I think I've got it straight now. This is why I don't like all those weird roles since it means I basically have no idea what does what and most of the game is spent wondering what people can or cannot do.

So who do we lynch?

Do I just pick one from the scumlist? Or do I attempt to lynch myself again. (is there a role that makes you unlynchable? Would be awesome to lynch oneself and then I wouldn't be lynched muahahahaha)
CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK
On sunny days, I go out walking
1142
I've seen a role where you have to have a minority of the vote on you to be lynched before.

Shinan...who do you think we should lynch.

Trihan
"It's more like a big ball of wibbly wobbly...timey wimey...stuff."
3359
CAVE, can you give me your cases for the people on your scumdar? Why do you suspect them and who are you most suspicious of?
Marrend
Guardian of the Description Thread
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I was wondering where CAVE_DOG was getting the idea that he was bulletproof, but checking his role-claim post one more time again cleared up that confusion.

Now there's this role reveal by Trihan. Which makes CAVE's claim that ldida1 is scum more plausible. But, as it has been pointed out to me, he will be mod-killed if he continues to not post. However, he's the person we have the most evidence on at this moment. I say we lynch him for today. Unless there is information that points to a more active member of Team Scum?
Yellow Magic
Could I BE any more Chandler Bing from Friends (TM)?
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So we get an extra Innocent thanks to Trihan (with a decent role to boot). Still a bit confused as to his role though; so basically Trihan tells CAVE to vote for a certain person, and CAVE votes the next day, but when does the role get revealed to CAVE? The night after the day CAVE votes?

Also, I'd love to know why CAVE suddenly suspects me >:(...
author=Trihan
CAVE, can you give me your cases for the people on your scumdar? Why do you suspect them and who are you most suspicious of?

http://rpgmaker.net/forums/topics/11086/?post=375579#post375579

was... comprehensive... Maybe?

I'm really indecisive because I've started to think about it. Usually I just pick someone to lynch. MirrorMasq seem kinda nice to lynch since he has votes against him already. But I'd have to read through the topic all proper like and... well... Euro 2012.

#Lynch MirrorMasq

CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK
On sunny days, I go out walking
1142
Okay. Marrend purely for avoiding Idida for the rest of them. He is the least scummy in my book.

Zeuzio for sounding so sure of Despite's alignment and then backpedaling in a way that seemed dishonest as well as ignoring Idida.

Idida, also, but he's probably going to get modkilled.

Mirrormasq for avoiding Idida the whole first day and then trying to retcon his post history to make it seem like he suspected him even though he mentioned him not once. Also, he said Marrend was suspicious but didn't vote him. If Mirrormasq is scum, so is Marrend.

Yellow_Magic, I don't remember. I thought he had hinted that he had more information than town. nix that. I was confusing him with this next guy.

LWG, just kidding. I don't have a case on him either. I'm still under the effect of sleeping pills. Marrend, Idida, Mirrormasq, and Zeuzio is my call for scumteam.

MINOR SCUM CASES:

Shinan: not playing his usual game as far as I can tell. This could be because this is the first time I have not tried to immediately destroy him, though.

Chana: Lurking waaaay more than usual. If any of my other scumcases fall through, I would definitely be okay with substituting Chana.

CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK
On sunny days, I go out walking
1142
Also Shinan just said that he considers someone having votes on them a good enough reason to lynch them, but, hey, Shinan has proven to me that he is ridiculously scummy when he is town so I consider this a nulltell.

I still have a bad feeling about LWG honestly but it's nothing concrete.
Yellow Magic
Could I BE any more Chandler Bing from Friends (TM)?
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author=CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK
Yellow_Magic, I don't remember. I thought he had hinted that he had more information than town. nix that. I was confusing him with this next guy.

Oh, that was probably when I called the Doctor a Cop. Had a feeling it would look slightly suspicious :<

I'd like to take a more in-depth look at everyone's posts to date, but like Shinan said, Euro 2012. In a bit..