PHOENIX MAFIA: ONLINE TURNABOUT

ughhhhhhh
It's good that people know I'm town but it doesn't matter cuz mafia's just gonna kill me now cuz know they know what my role is
I think I'm gonna reread everything and post what I think of people tomorrow, the day doesn't end for like another 24 hours right?

MK, investigative skills are not foolproof. We have the mafia framer, who can make a townie appear to be scum to townie. Mafia Mastermind can hide his identity so that he appears to be town. So not only might you be wrong about wes, but wes may be the mastermind. Then again, you could both be mafia with you making a role claim to look legit.

I hope you realize that if you are indeed town, you-- for the lack of a better term-- have fucked us up the ass, but anyway.

Given you've revealed not only the method in which you encoded the message, but the white text you used to hide it, the mafia members know just as well as I do what the contents of the message was. There was nothing about an investigative role mentioned.

Provided this isn't anything more than an elaborate ruse to distract us from your nature as mafia, you've just gotten both yourself and another town member killed. You'll be first.

Oh, do you really think Majora will be first? His investigative power isn't terribly useful, with how easy it is to mislead an investigative power in this game, framer and mastermind and all. Then again, if they don't target me for reasons I've stated above, maybe they'll go for him instead? I don't knowwww

Wes, Majoracan will be the next to die unless the mafia intends to frame him as mafia. He's our last mortal investigator...provided that he is indeed town.



I do want to draw attention to the numbers fact I pointed out earlier-- if there is a reporter on hand, one quarter of the entire player base has the ability to investigate others. Even with Ilan dead, the number stands, and given I'm immortal, it seems unrealistic.

But there is also the fact that what you've just done was such a hugely stupid bungle that I'd be surprised if you were scum at this point.

So either Majora is a fucking idiot, or he's brilliant at pretending to be a fucking idiot, and both he and Wes are scum. There's evidence pointing toward both situations.

Also, I'd like to take this moment to remind everyone of this statement in the OP:

Killers are chosen from among the citizens after the other roles are determined.

Meaning that it's very possible that the Reporter could be Mafia-aligned.

Also, if we do have a vigilante, who's to say that they weren't turned last night and used their one-shot to kill Ilan?

Actually, if that isn't the case, it leads me to speculate that perhaps mafia members this time around aren't very experienced as killing someone instead of turning them is a stupid move, especially in a numbers' game like this one. We could probably take that to mean that mafia are newbs, perhaps.

All things to consider.

I'm wondering if I should try using my vigilante powers while I still can, but I don't know if anyone's suspicious enough for that yet. Guess there's not much to do but reread everything tomorrow when I wake up and make a decision from there.

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Just so we're all on the same page here: Majora claims in this post to be the "investigator," and to have discovered that wes is town and that there is a vigilante. The only possible interpretation being that wes is the vigilante and Majora is the reporter. Who somehow thought it would be a good idea to out someone else's role without their permission. In white text.

I did say he was a bad player, right?

That's the skinny of it, yeah.


We don't have time for these games unless we're going for two nolynches in a row, and I think that is definitely a bad idea. MK's incredibly awkward roleclaim could easily be scum covering for each other, but wildwes' reaction to it is decidedly "not scum". So I'm going to assume they're town aligned for the moment.


Going back over the thread, one thing that really stood out to me was the overall participation of YM. He's surprisingly quiet...alarmingly quiet. He very rarely posts unless he's a)making a scum accusation, b)denying being scum, or c)making mysteriously vague observations. I'm still very suspicious about his interest in Ilan followed by his sudden silence. He didn't even challenge my defense of Ilan. He made a statement shrugging it off, and we didn't hear another word from about it until I voiced my suspicions at the start of this day phase. One thing, he's definitely active, but he's like the silent ninja in the corner in a fantasy RPG making pointed queries and then getting up and leaving when he gets an answer.