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Roden
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I kinda want Law to lose his crew and join up, but the poor guy's been Oda's punching bag so much already, he doesn't deserve to lose his crew.


If Bepo dies I'm quitting One Piece.

Gotta draw the line somewhere. Bepo is cute as fuck.
Ehhhhh, not a fan. I mean, he's cute, yeah, but I'm not big on the cute-for-the-sake-of-being-cute characters. Took me a long time to warm to Chopper, sad to say, and the cute animals that pop up on occasion just don't do it for me.


Then again, characters like the creepy-ass Kizaru and jerk-ass Akainu I warm to quickly, even if they are assholes.

...Okay, most characters are easy to love in this series. There really is someone for everyone. Hell, OP has in-universe abilities to de-age/age, genderbend, animalise, time travel, etc.

And there are so many ships. Chances are that if you ship it, you'll find something of it out there. I know of these obscure couples:
Capone x Smoker
Ace x Blackbeard (with a side helping of Ace x Akainu for that extra painful lovin')
Luffy x any/everyone/thing (seriously, I saw Luffy/Sky octopus)
Zoro x Hancock (IDEK)
Chopper x Crocodile (IDEK again)
Foxy (fuck you Foxy) x Kalifa (what even is?!)
...there's a lot more out there, all crazy, wonderful and mental.

It's a shipper/fanficcer's heaven.
Mirak
Stand back. Artist at work. I paint with enthusiasm if not with talent.
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None of these "ships" make any sense.

Also, is this Bonnie? Wasn't she captured by god damn Akainu?
Roden
who could forget dear ratboy
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Liberty
Ehhhhh, not a fan. I mean, he's cute, yeah, but I'm not big on the cute-for-the-sake-of-being-cute characters. Took me a long time to warm to Chopper, sad to say, and the cute animals that pop up on occasion just don't do it for me.


Oh, I never thought Bepo was supposed to be "cute for the sake of cute". Maybe in the way he acts, sure, but. Maybe it's because I'm a little drunk, but honestly he's just... Pretty good looking.

I'm with you on the idea of "cute for the sake of cute" characters, don't get me wrong. Basically, "anything for the sake of anything" characters are guaranteed to be pretty stupid.
author=Mirak
None of these "ships" make any sense.

Also, is this Bonnie? Wasn't she captured by god damn Akainu?

She escaped during the timeskip and seems to be on the run from the Marines. There's a big ol' mystery around that girl. I wouldn't mind her joining the crew, especially since it seems she doesn't have her own, but I'd be afraid she'd help Luffy in eating through all their money. XD


Ships don't really have to make much sense. One of the big things about OP is that there's a lot of unknown links between people, and a big ol' ocean where they can meet. For example, Kalifa was on the run with the other CP9 agents after their failure at Enies Lobby. They could quite easily have met Foxy on their adventures and had him beat them (by cheating and using his fruit) so that they joined his crew.

Or Ace and Blackbeard were closer than we were led to believe and that's why Ace was so determined to get him, since scorned lover was added into the equation of brother-killer.

(The real-life pirate that Ace is based on was the one who first created the idea of brotherhood and set down the 'laws' about not killing your shipmates and a general code of conduct. Black Bart (who Kuma was based on) made that code popular and added more to it.

Ace/Akainu is like Ace/Smoker, where the Marine and Pirate played cat and dog. Usually ends in death, though I saw some stuff where it ended with a faked death and keeping Ace in a sex dungeon. (We're talking shipping here - it can get pretty crazy, yeah. The Ace/Akainu ship is not a happy one, that's for sure.)

Luffy/Skysquid is easily explained by a sudden sexual awakening for Luffy from having stowed the squid in his pants that one time. And Luffy is ridiculously shippable with near-everything/one. The most common ships for him are members of his crew, Law (of course), Crocodile (it's like Ace/Akainu but with more innocent Luffy/depraved Crocodile >.<; ) and many, many others.

Zoro/Hancock is easily explained with a 'what if' scenario where Zoro got lost mid-transit (because that would be right) and landed on the wrong island, met and subdued Hancock and, well, just went straight along. It makes a certain amount of sense since Zoro is one of the other crew members who doesn't show interest in the opposite gender, so wouldn't be overwhelmed by her beauty.

Chopper/Crocodile is, I believe, risen from an SBS where Oda said Crocodile likes cute things (or alluded to it in some way. I'm not sure, but that's what some people who ship it claim) and the fact that Chopper is cute and was in Alabasta during Croc's reign. It's definitely another What If.

That's the fun part of OP, though - it's so easy to just go "What if...?" and come up with a very viable outcome based on a few changed pieces of story.
Like, what if Blackbeard had also managed to make it up the Knock-up stream?
What if Luffy had trained a bit harder before the War of the Best and thus, hadn't toppled at the decisive moment?
What if Chopper never joined the crew, but they still needed a doctor, so they found someone else to fit the bill?
What if Aokiji accidentally froze Robin all the way through and they hadn't been able to save her?
What if Garp had given Luffy to one of his Marine friends to raise instead?
What if Kuina hadn't died, but had been blinded by the fall? (There's a really good fanfiction based around this idea.)

It's a very flexible world, with a lot of lovable characters, which makes it rife for messing around in. ^.^


@Pizza: I get that a lot of people like Bepo, but I didn't really like his silly acting. I can see why people would like him or see him as cute and adorable and want a talking polar bear of their own, but he just didn't appeal to me. Maybe I just don't like bears? XD
Dudesoft
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What what what
This is a topic? I need to read this topic. Shall post or edit afterwards.

Edit: nothing to add. I am a huge fan of One Piece, but I stopped buying the manga halfway through the Grand Line. Cost too much money. Sadly started to pirate it (don't like to with things I legitimately like) and have slowly been catching up. I'm at that Punk Hazard arc.
So far, my favourites are too many to list. The entire crew, really.

Franky's new design is awesome. It's so Franky. And that all the guys are starry eyed over the laser, and the women are just like, "..." About it. Haha, so good.
I still think Senor Pinks' backstory is one of the most heart-breaking this show has had in years. The fact that he has to dress like a baby just to get a reaction out of his wife, who's in a vegetative state, really struck a cord with me and made me feel sorry for him. Adds a lot to a concept that sounds absurd on paper (the whole dressing as a baby thing).
I felt sorrier for poor Baby 5. Used by everyone around her because of her desire to be useful to someone. Anyone. Abandonned by her mother because she wasn't useful, raised to be a tool, and finally finding someone who didn't want her - who wanted to stop her being used. It's not the most healthy relationship, but the fact that Sai can see that it's an issue and that it's wrong, will very likely lead to him treating her well and helping her mend and get better.

There's a hell of a lot of sad stories in One Piece.
Yeah, that's for sure. Hard to pick which is the absolute saddest, honestly.
Roden
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I don't remember being particularly moved by any of the moments, to be honest.

Death discussion:

Maybe Tom. That was handled pretty well. Bon Clay would've been great if it wasn't ruined later on down the road.

Here's some sacrilege: I didn't find Ace's death moving. The way Luffy's face was drawn after the fact was so overboard and obtuse that it destroyed any moment there could have been. That, and it was at least a little expected given the scenario- I can't pretend what Ace did wasn't completely stupid and bullheaded. Dude didn't 'deserve it' but it was a dumb thing to do, devotion or not.

Whitebeard on the other hand, now that was moving- especially the animated interpretation. Great character defining sequence for Blackbeard too, and an awesome way to establish him as the series villain. Bravo.

The Going Merry is a boat. I don't really feel bad for boats. Klaubautermann was a cool touch, but (unless I remember this wrong) Merry literally talking to the crew was silly. I find myself more attached to the Sunny, because it's a way cooler looking ship overall and it has a lot more utility.

Do I have nostalgia for the Merry? Of course. It's 'death' (and the entire Enies Lobby Arc), while not the huge tearjerker it's made out to be, was a good transition to the "new" One Piece and away from the old.


Actually, fuck it, these are the most touching moments from the series IMO:


The only moments I can see beating these in the future are Luffy reuniting with Shanks and the end, tbh. But Oda is full of surprises, so I don't know. Anything to do with Gold Roger and the old days tends to get to me a bit.

EDIT: Also, I just remembered- the Corazon story that recently happened was one of the best ones in the series. Really well put together.
I just had the thought that I'd love to see a Dragonball Kai version of One Piece. And one for Naruto as well.
On the one hand, most of OP is basically straight from the manga - the fillers are usually their own arcs which you can skip over, and the pacing is pretty good up until about the Fishman Island arc. You can't really compress it too much without losing the bits that make it such a great series - the interactions between the characters, the random silliness and epic struggles.

It's not like DBZ where fights went on for upward of 20 episodes.
The Desert thingy was so numb and drawn out that I stopped watching for quite a while - then I remember the Davy Back Fight mini-arc (which was nice), the Sky Island arc (meh) and some stuff around the marine capital (dropped out again).

I don't know how much filler you can get rid of, but there's sure a lot of padding that can be cut (such as what I call the Nami Face, where the titular character just blankly stares ahead with her mouth open).

I guess I should group the episodes by arcs and highlight fillers so I can decide which arcs are worth watching myself, including a few milestones from arcs I skipped.

However, there is a thing about filler to be said is that it isn't necessarily bad - for instance, Yugioh's Waking the Dragons greatly exceeds the entire rest of DM in quality.
Dudesoft
always a dudesoft, never a soft dude.
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Finished catching up on the manga. Really not digging this New World so far. The stories have been 'too big'... Too many characters, too much going on, not enough focus. I could give two shits about anyone so far. We'll see. I don't think Dressrosa was the end of this arc, so maybe it'll get better. Holy hell was Punk Hazard a chore.

On a plus note, Luffy's powers got cooler and sounds like even cooler things ahead.
The Alabasta arc had some filler episodes which was annoying.

The Davy Back Fight can go die in a fire (the only good thing to come from it was Afro-Luffy. Foxy and his little crew can go fuck themselves. That arc in the manga was half as long but noooooo, the anime crew had to add a second fucking round. I am so salty about that. It was the worst.)

Sky Island seems to be that either people loved it or didn't. I'm one of the ones that did, but there wasn't much in the way of padding in it.

There really isn't much in the way of filler and a lot of the filler is good filler (like the G8 filler which was so good that they even brought Johnathon back into the main arcs of the anime for the War of the Best).

It started out that the anime would cover 1+1/2 - 2 chapters of the manga each episode, but since it caught up to the manga, it could have done three things - either taken a hiatus until Oda got ahead a bit, focussed on another mini filler arc or slowed down the pace a bit by going 1 chapter per episode and adding a bit of filler to that.

Japan doesn't take kindly to breaks, and besides, with Oda's illness of the time it wasn't really a good idea to let it fall behind, so they decided against that.

Instead they figured to slow the pace a bit and hope that Oda managed to pull ahead. Of course, this didn't happen since Oda has to have mandated rest periods as per doctor's orders, so the anime has still managed to catch up to the manga, despite their best efforts at trying to not add filler.

One thing that I wish they'd done instead is invest in some of the cover stories as mini-arcs. Oda tends to add them in as little events following other characters in the world and I know a lot of people have wanted to see certain ones animated (like Enel's journey to the moon or CP9's after-Enie's Lobby arc). Honestly, that would have been better, I think, or even just filler arcs which can be easily cut.

That said, the slow down is only an issue when you're watching week to week. One Piece isn't a show where you should do that. Instead you need to watch it in clumps of episodes - going back and watching about 10 in a row (or even an arc at a time, if you've the time) makes for a lot better pacing and an overall better experience.


Or you could just read the manga. That is a thing you could do and is highly recommended that everyone do anyway.
Dudesoft
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Oh, I am doing prints for FanExpo, a comic and nerd convention, any One Piece requests?
Mirak
Stand back. Artist at work. I paint with enthusiasm if not with talent.
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It seems Luffy is going to fight Fujitora. He supposedly was barely recovering from his fight with Doflamingo. What a glutton for punishment, i'd like to say Fujitora is gonna wreck his shit but being a MC i'm sure Luffy's gonna find some way to beat him.
Dudesoft
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Far as I can tell, Fujitora is a rock manipulator? He can't squish the squishiest of heroes.
Gravity, methinks, though Earth fruit might be an interesting idea that I hadn't considered.

Y'know... I wonder if there's a Sea Sea fruit or Water Water or Swim Swim and whether it'd allow the user to actually be in water and not effect them.
Roden
who could forget dear ratboy
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Liberty
Y'know... I wonder if there's a Sea Sea fruit or Water Water or Swim Swim and whether it'd allow the user to actually be in water and not effect them.


I'm sure you've heard, but I think a lot of people assume this is what One Piece might be- and why Blackbeard wants it so bad. Anybody with control of the sea would be able to rule or destroy the entire world with ease.

I'd also have to assume that Fujitora's fruit is gravity related. If it was an Earth-Earth fruit I think he'd be able to become rock like Pica or something- and probably wouldn't be able to crash meteors on people or float ships in the air.

As for the fight with Luffy, I think it might be a situation where there's a stalemate of sorts, or this is Luffy's moment to actually defeat an Admiral- something we've never seen a pirate do before. I think he's certainly strong enough to pose a threat to Fujitora, but beating him? I don't know.