TPP COULD MAKE FANWORK ILLEGAL?

I doubt this would change too much in reference to this.

Of course there's a fine line with this, but for many industries this is a non issue, especially considering the Japanese culture where 'fan works' tend to blur pretty often into official works. It's like the article says;

author=Page
However, the owners of the original series know about a thing called free exposure and forming good relationships with fans. Plus, a number of manga artists have started out as doujin artists.

Making it illegal for a Naruto fan to cosplay as Ichigo is a good way to ensure you don't have many Naruto fans left. Smart companies know this.

author=Sailerius
Fanwork is already illegal.

stop posting

Without corporate pressure to do so, there wouldn't be much incentive for the government to crack down on anime conventions.

The TPP is pretty worrying, but I'd be sure that Naruto cosplayers are pretty far down on the hit list.

Illegal everywhere in the world. I didn't know that USA laws had any impact on laws in countries like Taiwan, which in practice blatantly ignore copy right laws.

I call the line as selling stuff that doesn't belong to you.
But it's usually up to the company if they want to pursue prosecution.

In terms of anime/manga:

Not being able to cosplay? Sure that'd be a blow to the community because that's really all they have. Being subject to copyright laws like the rest of us? You've got to let the entitlement go and just work your creative muscles enough to come up with some original content.

I can't post any of my "AMVs" on Youtube like people were able to in the past; I've come to respect that because it's just the nature of the beast. Now I've made three successful (within the context of my own experience) compilation videos after getting greenlit by the original content owner's community. I've also given extensive credit to the original content owner and stated simply in the video description that should they find these productions offensive or unsavory in any manner, I will remove them immediately and with no questions asked. I have yet to be shut down.

I know my place.

author=Corfaisus
Being subject to copyright laws like the rest of us? You've got to let the entitlement go and just work your creative muscles enough to come up with some original content.

I might have been on your side if you actually realized how outlandish and stupid copyright laws are now regarding creative content in the U.S.

Blowing dust out of an NES cartridge, welp, that's a violation of copyright!

Also may i add that if enforced copyright laws would leave us with very little original work because people borrow from others all the time. Also silencing fan art is dumb. You're pretty much agreeing that a six year old who drew art of Goku should get over entitlement and face a prison sentence.

Maybe before posting you'd like to do some research on the subject so I don't have to call you out for saying something stupid.

As for the TPP, I'm not worried on the copyright content part even if it passes, because it's the sort of thing that would be impossible to enforce, and detrimental to society to even try. What worries me about it is that coal, gas and oil companies won't need to get permission from governments who would usually be involved in such decisions, meaning that if it passes we've come a step closer to screwing up our climate irreversibly.

I don't trust Oil giants and people like Gina Rinehart (who may I add, has pushed for North Western Australia to be NUCLEAR BOMBED to make mining easier.) to handle the future of our climate.

The law hasn't passed yet, and it's up to us to make sure it doesn't.

Yeah, it's pretty mindlessly silly to pretend that it's a-ok for fanart and fan content to become more strictly/enforcably criminal than it already technically is. Half the reason popular media is popular is largely due to the fan communities that surround it- look at how much fanart there is of Shonen manga, or Nintendo games. Look at Rule 34 for god sake.

I can attest that fanart has helped me discover a lot of stuff that I would have known nothing about, and led to me buying things as a direct result! It's a super useful marketing tool, if anything. Trying to close down that industry would be extremely damaging to basically everyone with creative endeavours. It would be bullshit on a universal level.

However...

BM
As for the TPP, I'm not worried on the copyright content part even if it passes, because it's the sort of thing that would be impossible to enforce, and detrimental to society to even try. What worries me about it is that coal, gas and oil companies won't need to get permission from governments who would usually be involved in such decisions, meaning that if it passes we've come a step closer to screwing up our climate irreversibly.

This is far more important than the government shutting down fanart. The world is already fucking dead because of people being miserable about climate change, but we should at least try to save it.

The fanart debacle would be the icing on the cake, really. The coporations take away your planet, and then take away the last thing you have to enjoy about it once it's gone!

Double Whammy. Major bummer, dude. Etc.

author=LightningLord2
Warning: Ignorant doofus inbound.

You remind me of myself over in the Cheekbones thread. :P

I'm happy for you to choose not to get invested in these matters, as they are depressing and it sucks when you learn how filth industries are.

Not gonna bring you down to my level, be hella lame of me to force you into my suffering, just keep the shitposting to a minimum if you could.

Lightning Lord, no reaction images/gifs/macros outside of the Welp forum.

It's also not a tinfoil hat area. People are right to be worried.

They make more money than I do, therefore I'm permitted to make my games using Seiken Densetsu 3 rips and One Winged Angel.


I also find it rather funny that some disconnected Aussie git has so much to say about the workings of alien lands.

author=BowelMovement
Also may i add that if enforced copyright laws would leave us with very little original work because people borrow from others all the time.

Diminution does not equal Sonic recolors and I would appreciate it very much so if people would actually go out of their way to itemize their points of discussion instead of lumping it all together into one massive scary strawman (like we're so fond of doing towards "SJWs"). The refusal to do so is how we so easily and habitually fall victim to Godwin's Law.

Listen, I went out of my way to legally gain the rights to make this everything that I want it to be. I've done research into what I can and can't use, albeit the facesets being the product of an artist* that was scared away from the community for one reason or another results in complications on my part. Change is scary and oftentimes a pain in the ass, but we all have to adapt to it in order to survive as mature, intelligent adults.

*If anyone can direct me towards said artist/artists, I'd be highly grateful. While the use of such resources were understood to be free to the community if proper credit was given (and the possibility of commercial revenue being an unforeseen circumstance), I'd still like to make sure that my ass won't be sued or that my game won't be taken down should I go commercial with this.