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author=Archeia_Nessiah link=topic=2027.msg50105#msg50105 date=1228891131
40 chaos.
How does one keep THAT many characters distinct.
Redid some of the first battles of the game that kept stuffing up.
That's about all i've done as i've been too busy at work.
That's about all i've done as i've been too busy at work.
author=ChaosProductions link=topic=2027.msg50415#msg50415 date=1229088136author=Archeia_Nessiah link=topic=2027.msg50105#msg50105 date=1228891131
40 chaos.
How does one keep THAT many characters distinct.
Going for reduced roles in battle, rather than having many balanced characters, she might have very specific ones with few skills. Ity will work wonders if party can be switched all the time or there is a multi party system (both things I am using for my project).
Anyway, back to work, exams are dead corpses behind me now HA!
Honestly, I doubt you can have 40 different characters with totally different roles. This is coming from someone who has 10 different characters with several skills each. And I know Craze is working on a game with 14 different characters that are also complex.
I'm curious to see the result, but I honestly expect to see it have Suikoden syndrome. =)
I'm curious to see the result, but I honestly expect to see it have Suikoden syndrome. =)
author=Clest link=topic=2027.msg50457#msg50457 date=1229118124author=ChaosProductions link=topic=2027.msg50415#msg50415 date=1229088136author=Archeia_Nessiah link=topic=2027.msg50105#msg50105 date=1228891131
40 chaos.
How does one keep THAT many characters distinct.
Going for reduced roles in battle, rather than having many balanced characters, she might have very specific ones with few skills. Ity will work wonders if party can be switched all the time or there is a multi party system (both things I am using for my project).
Anyway, back to work, exams are dead corpses behind me now HA!
You read my mind :3
@Karsuman, it's possible, except aside from 3-5 characters, you can't change the others, etc. I never played Suikoden so I don't know anything about that syndrome :P
Characters all end up being rough stereotypes of one another.
Basically, there is probably a set of 10 or so characters out of 50-60 or so that far outclass the rest, giving you no reason to use any other character outside of artificially creating a challenge for yourself(or because you like the way they look). Saga Frontier/Romancing Saga/etc. also have tons of characters and fall into a similar trap.
Basically, from my experience, I doubt that you(or me, or anyone) can make 40 distinct characters that all serve different roles and all of which are 'good' and 'useable'. Don't let me stop you from trying, though.
Basically, there is probably a set of 10 or so characters out of 50-60 or so that far outclass the rest, giving you no reason to use any other character outside of artificially creating a challenge for yourself(or because you like the way they look). Saga Frontier/Romancing Saga/etc. also have tons of characters and fall into a similar trap.
Basically, from my experience, I doubt that you(or me, or anyone) can make 40 distinct characters that all serve different roles and all of which are 'good' and 'useable'. Don't let me stop you from trying, though.
1. Berserk, high speed
2. Berserk, extra damage
3. Absorbs HP
4. Absorbs MP
5. Heals single target quickly
6. Heals single target slowly
7. Heals party quickly
8. Heals party slowly
9. Gifts MP to single target
10. Gifts MP to rest of party
11. High ATK
12. Higher ATK, less HP
13. Low ATK, more HP
14. High DEF, gazillion HP
15. Storm magic damage
16. Ice magic damage
17. Lightning magic damage
18. Fire magic damage
19. Water magic damage
20. Earth magic damage
21. Dark magic damage
22. Ether magic damage
23. Unelemental magic damage
24. Greatly slows enemy
25. Slows enemy party
26. Greatly poisons enemy
27. Poisons enemy party
28. Greatly cripples enemy
29. Cripples enemy party
30. Seals enemy's magic
31. Might seal all enemies' magic
32. Blind one enemy
33. Might blind all enemies
34. Is Balthier
35. Is Guy
36. Controls enemy actions
37. Hastes party
38. Kills birds and eats them
39. Disintegrates undead
40. Increases the amount of gold enemies drop
2. Berserk, extra damage
3. Absorbs HP
4. Absorbs MP
5. Heals single target quickly
6. Heals single target slowly
7. Heals party quickly
8. Heals party slowly
9. Gifts MP to single target
10. Gifts MP to rest of party
11. High ATK
12. Higher ATK, less HP
13. Low ATK, more HP
14. High DEF, gazillion HP
15. Storm magic damage
16. Ice magic damage
17. Lightning magic damage
18. Fire magic damage
19. Water magic damage
20. Earth magic damage
21. Dark magic damage
22. Ether magic damage
23. Unelemental magic damage
24. Greatly slows enemy
25. Slows enemy party
26. Greatly poisons enemy
27. Poisons enemy party
28. Greatly cripples enemy
29. Cripples enemy party
30. Seals enemy's magic
31. Might seal all enemies' magic
32. Blind one enemy
33. Might blind all enemies
34. Is Balthier
35. Is Guy
36. Controls enemy actions
37. Hastes party
38. Kills birds and eats them
39. Disintegrates undead
40. Increases the amount of gold enemies drop
Read at your own risk
1. A psychotic double wielding Blonde Devil
2. The rebellious big brother
3. Child Prodigy Younger brother
4. A blind fortune teller
5. Enigmatic Embodiment of Wrath
6. Embodiment of Longing Lust
7. Embodiment of Furious Envy
8. A Dictator that has a place in government
9. A womanizer that never gets any women and hits on younger women
10. A nerd that idolize the womanizer above
11. A priestly rebel that uses tonfa(s)
12. A drunken fist fighter
13. Same as above minus drunk and focuses more on combos and street fighting
14. Same as above except deals deadly damage followed by martial arts
15. A guy that focuses on swift killing
16. A spear user that uses electricity and focuses on balanced speed and power
17. A person that uses a huge wrench
18. A gambler that loves to butt in to other people's business
19. A swordsman who thinks he's great
20. A person who specializes in using the sniper rifle but seems useless
21. Secret
22. Secret
23. Secret
24. A Jason Clone that has an unexpected side to him that also wields a huge gun
25. A person with split personality
26. A fencer that's good at traps
27. A guy with a huge fan device to set up traps and explosions causing AOE damage
28. Secret
29. Robotic Guy
30. Secret
31. A ninja-ish person that wears a bunny band
32. A young girl
33. A Femme Fatale that no one would ever want to have a relationship with despite her huge charm
34. Shape Shifter
35. Cameo
36. Cameo
37. A weird guy that uses bombs
38. A Sherlock Holmes Mechanical Meerkat
39. Secret
40. Secret
1. A psychotic double wielding Blonde Devil
2. The rebellious big brother
3. Child Prodigy Younger brother
4. A blind fortune teller
5. Enigmatic Embodiment of Wrath
6. Embodiment of Longing Lust
7. Embodiment of Furious Envy
8. A Dictator that has a place in government
9. A womanizer that never gets any women and hits on younger women
10. A nerd that idolize the womanizer above
11. A priestly rebel that uses tonfa(s)
12. A drunken fist fighter
13. Same as above minus drunk and focuses more on combos and street fighting
14. Same as above except deals deadly damage followed by martial arts
15. A guy that focuses on swift killing
16. A spear user that uses electricity and focuses on balanced speed and power
17. A person that uses a huge wrench
18. A gambler that loves to butt in to other people's business
19. A swordsman who thinks he's great
20. A person who specializes in using the sniper rifle but seems useless
21. Secret
22. Secret
23. Secret
24. A Jason Clone that has an unexpected side to him that also wields a huge gun
25. A person with split personality
26. A fencer that's good at traps
27. A guy with a huge fan device to set up traps and explosions causing AOE damage
28. Secret
29. Robotic Guy
30. Secret
31. A ninja-ish person that wears a bunny band
32. A young girl
33. A Femme Fatale that no one would ever want to have a relationship with despite her huge charm
34. Shape Shifter
35. Cameo
36. Cameo
37. A weird guy that uses bombs
38. A Sherlock Holmes Mechanical Meerkat
39. Secret
40. Secret
Nessiah, I'm not talking about character ideas. I'm talking about gameplay mechanics.
It's easy to come up with ideas for characters because writing and ideas have no boundaries. Gameplay mechanics are based in data and numbers, and are much more difficult to come up with and balance.
It's easy to come up with ideas for characters because writing and ideas have no boundaries. Gameplay mechanics are based in data and numbers, and are much more difficult to come up with and balance.
Funny how I thought the descriptions could already show their way of fighting :P
I wouldn't worry too much since I have already set skills and what they can do that the others can't do and that some of them are playable depending on the path you chose.
#1 There is no magic, only status effects.
I wouldn't worry too much since I have already set skills and what they can do that the others can't do and that some of them are playable depending on the path you chose.
#1 There is no magic, only status effects.
author=Archeia_Nessiah link=topic=2027.msg50474#msg50474 date=1229125403
Read at your own risk
1. A psychotic double wielding Blonde Devil
2. The rebellious big brother
3. Child Prodigy Younger brother
4. A blind fortune teller
5. Enigmatic Embodiment of Wrath
6. Embodiment of Longing Lust
7. Embodiment of Furious Envy
8. A Dictator that has a place in government
9. A womanizer that never gets any women and hits on younger women
10. A nerd that idolize the womanizer above
11. A priestly rebel that uses tonfa(s)
12. A drunken fist fighter
13. Same as above minus drunk and focuses more on combos and street fighting
14. Same as above except deals deadly damage followed by martial arts
15. A guy that focuses on swift killing
16. A spear user that uses electricity and focuses on balanced speed and power
17. A person that uses a huge wrench
18. A gambler that loves to butt in to other people's business
19. A swordsman who thinks he's great
20. A person who specializes in using the sniper rifle but seems useless
21. Secret
22. Secret
23. Secret
24. A Jason Clone that has an unexpected side to him that also wields a huge gun
25. A person with split personality
26. A fencer that's good at traps
27. A guy with a huge fan device to set up traps and explosions causing AOE damage
28. Secret
29. Robotic Guy
30. Secret
31. A ninja-ish person that wears a bunny band
32. A young girl
33. A Femme Fatale that no one would ever want to have a relationship with despite her huge charm
34. Shape Shifter
35. Cameo
36. Cameo
37. A weird guy that uses bombs
38. A Sherlock Holmes Mechanical Meerkat
39. Secret
40. Secret
I want to see names beside each number :)
But that will ruin the suspense in my game D:
I can tell you which one is yours though, starts with an F at the beginning of the sentence
I can tell you which one is yours though, starts with an F at the beginning of the sentence
1. An emo swordsman with long flowing hair who is seeking a sword of great power, who wears white armor.
2. An emo swordsman with long flowing hair who is seeking a sword of great power, who wears blue armor.
3. An emo swordsman with long flowing hair who is seeking a sword of great power, who wears red armor.
4. An emo swordsman with long flowing hair who is seeking a sword of great power, who wears purple armor.
5. An emo swordsman with long flowing hair who is seeking a sword of great power, who wears pink armor.
6. An emo swordsman with long flowing hair who is seeking a sword of great power, who wears greenish yellow armor.
7. An emo swordsman with long flowing hair who is seeking a sword of great power, who wears plaid armor and has a mullet.
8. An emo swordsman with long flowing hair who is seeking a sword of great power, who wears yellowish green armor.
9. An emo swordsman with long flowing hair who is seeking a sword of great power, who wears silver armor and a tutu.
10-40: An emo swordsman with long flowing hair who is seeking a sword of great power, who wears a slightly different colored armor and has a different hairdo.
Voila. Playable city!
(yes, it's possible to have 40 different long haired hairdos)
2. An emo swordsman with long flowing hair who is seeking a sword of great power, who wears blue armor.
3. An emo swordsman with long flowing hair who is seeking a sword of great power, who wears red armor.
4. An emo swordsman with long flowing hair who is seeking a sword of great power, who wears purple armor.
5. An emo swordsman with long flowing hair who is seeking a sword of great power, who wears pink armor.
6. An emo swordsman with long flowing hair who is seeking a sword of great power, who wears greenish yellow armor.
7. An emo swordsman with long flowing hair who is seeking a sword of great power, who wears plaid armor and has a mullet.
8. An emo swordsman with long flowing hair who is seeking a sword of great power, who wears yellowish green armor.
9. An emo swordsman with long flowing hair who is seeking a sword of great power, who wears silver armor and a tutu.
10-40: An emo swordsman with long flowing hair who is seeking a sword of great power, who wears a slightly different colored armor and has a different hairdo.
Voila. Playable city!
(yes, it's possible to have 40 different long haired hairdos)
author=Knee Oak link=topic=2027.msg50482#msg50482 date=1229126436
:o F-f-femme fatale? :o
Oh shi I missed that one
look at number five
1. Danten A psychotic double wielding Blonde Devil
2. Vergiln The rebellious big brother
3. Lucan Child Prodigy Younger brother
4. Dahnan A blind fortune teller
5. Chaosn (FF7 version) Enigmatic Embodiment of Wrath
6. Aphroditen Embodiment of Longing Lust
7. Locken Embodiment of Furious Envy
8. Hitlern A Dictator that has a place in government
9. Brandonn A womanizer that never gets any women and hits on youngerwomen
10. August Trappern A nerd that idolizes the womanizer above
11. Aerisn A priestly rebel that uses tonfa(s)
12. Yangn A drunken fist fighter
13. Ryun Same as above minus drunk and focuses more on combos and street fighting
14. Sabinn Same as above except deals deadly damage followed by martial arts
15. Shadown A guy that focuses on swift killing
16. Cidn A spear user that uses electricity and focuses on balanced speed and power
17. Skies of Arcadian A person that uses a huge wrench
18. Setzern A gambler that loves to butt in to other people's buttsiness
19. Cyann A swordsman who thinks he's great
20. Max McGeen A person who specializes in using the sniper rifle but seems useless
21. Yon Secret
22. Momman Secret
23. KOS-MOSn Secret
24. Team Fortressn A Jason Clone that has an unexpected side to him that also wields a huge gun
25. Nepthen* A person with split personality
26. Liddan A fencer that's good at traps
27. Ziggurat-8n A guy with a huge fan device to set up traps and explosions causing AOE damage
28. Axeln Secret
29. E.S. Eschern Robotic Guy
30. Roxasn Secret
31. Michelangelon** A ninja-ish person that wears a bunny band
32. MOMOn A young girl
33. Shionn A Femme Fatale that no one would ever want to have a relationship with despite her huge charm
34. Konishin*** Shape Shifter
35. Soran Cameo
36. Rikun Cameo
37. Rikkun**** A weird guy that uses bombs
38. Wishbonen A Sherlock Holmes Mechanical Meerkat
39. Mialeen Secret
40. Orcusn Secret
*Play a Phylomortis game
**Drunk version
***Vixen forms
****FFX version
2. Vergiln The rebellious big brother
3. Lucan Child Prodigy Younger brother
4. Dahnan A blind fortune teller
5. Chaosn (FF7 version) Enigmatic Embodiment of Wrath
6. Aphroditen Embodiment of Longing Lust
7. Locken Embodiment of Furious Envy
8. Hitlern A Dictator that has a place in government
9. Brandonn A womanizer that never gets any women and hits on younger
10. August Trappern A nerd that idolizes the womanizer above
11. Aerisn A priestly rebel that uses tonfa(s)
12. Yangn A drunken fist fighter
13. Ryun Same as above minus drunk and focuses more on combos and street fighting
14. Sabinn Same as above except deals deadly damage followed by martial arts
15. Shadown A guy that focuses on swift killing
16. Cidn A spear user that uses electricity and focuses on balanced speed and power
17. Skies of Arcadian A person that uses a huge wrench
18. Setzern A gambler that loves to butt in to other people's bu
19. Cyann A swordsman who thinks he's great
20. Max McGeen A person who specializes in using the sniper rifle but seems useless
21. Yon Secret
22. Momman Secret
23. KOS-MOSn Secret
24. Team Fortressn A Jason Clone that has an unexpected side to him that also wields a huge gun
25. Nepthen* A person with split personality
26. Liddan A fencer that's good at traps
27. Ziggurat-8n A guy with a huge fan device to set up traps and explosions causing AOE damage
28. Axeln Secret
29. E.S. Eschern Robotic Guy
30. Roxasn Secret
31. Michelangelon** A ninja-ish person that wears a bunny band
32. MOMOn A young girl
33. Shionn A Femme Fatale that no one would ever want to have a relationship with despite her huge charm
34. Konishin*** Shape Shifter
35. Soran Cameo
36. Rikun Cameo
37. Rikkun**** A weird guy that uses bombs
38. Wishbonen A Sherlock Holmes Mechanical Meerkat
39. Mialeen Secret
40. Orcusn Secret
*Play a Phylomortis game
**Drunk version
***Vixen forms
****FFX version























