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I think lockez is just confused from where you asked if it narrowed down kloe to those specific three factions. All we really know for sure is that frogge and kloes win condition is linked. This means if we have determined that frogge is assisting town, then that means kloe would be assisting town as well. I'm not convinced kloe is scum, or a member of those particular three factions yet.
pianotm
The TM is for Totally Magical.
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More like he's extrapolating information because he can't get any.
LockeZ
I'd really like to get rid of LockeZ. His play style is way too unpredictable. He's always like this too. If he ran a country, he'd just kill and imprison people at random until crime stopped.
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author=Frogge
author=psy_wombats
@Frogge: Interesting. So does that mean Kloe is Chaos, Humility or Neutral? Or do I just have no idea how your ability works?
Both I guess >.< This ability is confusing

I don't know how else you could possibly interpret this other than Frogge confirming that Kloe is Chaos, Humility or Neutral. Is that not what you meant, Frogge?
pianotm
The TM is for Totally Magical.
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LockeZ
Frogge
author=psy_wombats
@Frogge: Interesting. So does that mean Kloe is Chaos, Humility or Neutral? Or do I just have no idea how your ability works?
Both I guess >.< This ability is confusing
I don't know how else you could possibly interpret this other than Frogge confirming that Kloe is Chaos, Humility or Neutral. Is that not what you meant, Frogge?


I interpret it as: quote author=Frogge: This ability is confusing. You've basically learned that Kloe is not the same alignment as Frogge, and being any other alignment means she should be lynched. And how exactly do you know what alignment Frogge is? How do you know he's not a neutral? He's sure not going to confess to this lot.
I'm confused as well. Frogge said she had an ability requisite to his own. If kloe is neccessary for his win condition, wouldn't that tell us that they are of a similar alignment (either working for town or chaos)? I feel like I'm missing something here going by what everyone else is saying.
Kloe
I lost my arms in a tragic chibi accident
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Yeah Demon, that's what I thought hehe meant...
I would like to remind everyone of this post.

author=Frogge
Interestingly enough, it seems I'm none of these, or I didn't read carefully enough. I'm a renegade cop, and I win if chaos, neutral or humilty alignments achieve the majority of wins, and lose if law charity and patience achieve the most win conditions.
Thanks for that, I had forgotten about that one. That means my theory about humility alignment is out the window, and apparently patience is allied with town.

...I am actually strongly considering lynching kloe now.
#lynch kloe

I don't think frogge knew yet what he was saying when he shared his win-con, since it's so obviously anti-law. But if he needs kloe to fulfill it she's probably affiliated with chaos somehow.

I do, however, think most of what frogge has shared with us is true, just maybe not in his best interest.
pianotm
The TM is for Totally Magical.
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Yeah, I feel comfortable switching back to Kloe. I don't like LockeZ's logic, but at least he has it.

#cancel
#lynch Kloe
#lynch kloe

Yeah I can't think of any reason not to lynch her. It's a strong lead, and I have no reason to doubt frogge. Even if kloe does come back as town, then we know that frogge was lying. This is too good to pass up.
CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK
On sunny days, I go out walking
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Official Votecount

Kloe - 4: Lockez, pianotm, Zeuzio, Pianotm, demonlord
Liberty - 2: Ratty, Yellow Magic, Kloe
Ratty - 1: Liberty, Pianotm
Lockez- 1: Frogge, pianotm

Not voting: Oddrabbit, Hikitsune, Nessiah, psy_Wombats, Ratty

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. deadline 47 1/2 hours yadda yadda
author=Archeia_Nessiah
author=Liberty
Yeah, don't worry, I was confused by it too at first.

My role is Analytic Cop. I pick three names and if any of them have the same alignment their ability for the night is blocked. I don't get to know of there was a block, who was blocked, or what alignment they were. The only way I know if someone was blocked is by others revealing that they were blocked the next day. >.<;

No idea why it wasn't named something more fitting but there it is. :/
Does this mean even a mod won't reveal to us if someone got blocked?


I don't know. I was never told that. I'll ask, though.

author=Yellow Magic
author=Liberty
I don't know who else is part of my faction, actually. I only ever knew of Chaos, Law and the possible existence of a third faction.

I'm Law. :shrug:
Not really much else I can say.
This is weird. Calling "Law" a faction is strange, almost a slip of the tongue, and combined with knowing about a third faction...connecting the dots, I'd say you're a part of this third faction. You're not gonna tell us your win condition by any chance, are you?



Why would it be weird? I wasn't told the name of the third faction, it was just hinted at when I got a reply from Cave about my ability - since picking three people if there were only two factions would guarantee that at least two would be blocked each time, I asked him if I could pick only one or two people (no, has to be three). In the answer, Cave let slip that there 'may be more than two factions' which I took to mean three. Honestly, I thought maybe a neutral faction, but there wasn't any name given so I figured we had Law/Chaos/etc which would fit the normal Town/Mafia/Indie aligns.

As to why I called it Law just before - because someone made the point that calling town is stupid since we don't know that there is a town. We have 6 factions - they're not all town. I'll say scum as a catch-all for the ones who are trying to kill everyone, but we don't know for sure that Law is 'town' or whether it's 'Indie'. Of course, it's more likely to be closer to town, but people asked for my alignment - it's Law.

author=Kloe
Not at all complicated compared to Libs, if we assume that's correct.

Not sure why you think it's complicated. Once you get down to the nitty gritty, it's not. Just I pick three names. If any of them are on the same team, their powers get blocked. If not, all's gravy. Not that hard to understand?
Oh, discussion happened.


Okay, so Kloe is linked to Frogge's win condition and his WIN is linked to the... negative? half, including Chaos? So that's why everyone's going for Kloe. But it is Frogge's win condition that is linked to Chaos. Of course, Kloe could be Chaos based on his post. Interesting.
CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK
On sunny days, I go out walking
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author=pianotm
No, he's using requisite correctly. I don't know if he means to use it like that. The way he's using it, it means that Kloe has to meet her win condition in order for Frogge to meet his.



This post has been targeted by an empathetic demon! Pianotm does NOT maintain Out-of-thread communication with any of the names in this post!
oddRABBIT
I feel bored. How odd.
1979
Whoever is using that power, though I don't know who it is, I imagine it would have been a better use to scan Kloe's comments to see if other people might be in the group she might be in.
oddRABBIT
I feel bored. How odd.
1979
I'm not sure if that was phrased correctly. Sorry if it was confusing, ask me if anyone needs clarification on wnat I said.
LockeZ
I'd really like to get rid of LockeZ. His play style is way too unpredictable. He's always like this too. If he ran a country, he'd just kill and imprison people at random until crime stopped.
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why is kloe still alive
pianotm
The TM is for Totally Magical.
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And LockeZ seems to be channeling Cave, except LockeZ's Yellow Magic seems to be Kloe.
Yellow Magic
Could I BE any more Chandler Bing from Friends (TM)?
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author=Liberty
author=Yellow Magic
This is weird. Calling "Law" a faction is strange, almost a slip of the tongue, and combined with knowing about a third faction...connecting the dots, I'd say you're a part of this third faction. You're not gonna tell us your win condition by any chance, are you?



Why would it be weird? I wasn't told the name of the third faction, it was just hinted at when I got a reply from Cave about my ability - since picking three people if there were only two factions would guarantee that at least two would be blocked each time, I asked him if I could pick only one or two people (no, has to be three). In the answer, Cave let slip that there 'may be more than two factions' which I took to mean three. Honestly, I thought maybe a neutral faction, but there wasn't any name given so I figured we had Law/Chaos/etc which would fit the normal Town/Mafia/Indie aligns.

As to why I called it Law just before - because someone made the point that calling town is stupid since we don't know that there is a town. We have 6 factions - they're not all town. I'll say scum as a catch-all for the ones who are trying to kill everyone, but we don't know for sure that Law is 'town' or whether it's 'Indie'. Of course, it's more likely to be closer to town, but people asked for my alignment - it's Law.


I don't care that you called it "Law", just that you initially referred to it in that post as "my faction" which seems a bit off to me.

Two nights have passed (Night 0 and Night 1) and Liberty claims to have not used her power on either of those two days.....is that not suspicious to anyone else?