[MAFIA] RMN: WHEN THEY CRY (TEA PARTY)
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I have an idea. Ozzy, what are your thoughts on Muffle?
author=Yellow Magic
I have an idea. Ozzy, what are your thoughts on Muffle?
Can't say anything that hasn't been said already, although she has been very defensive she has also been very honest imo. I know her very well and not once has she acted different than her usual self which leads me to believe that she's honestly just trying to help and can't be scum.
Jeroen_Sol
Nothing reveals Humanity so well as the games it plays. A game of betrayal, where the most suspicious person is brutally murdered? How savage.
3885
Alright.
I believe Piano is town. He's been extremely helpful all game, and came forward with being attacked night 1. Though that by itself is no indication of alignment, he was attacked by the third gunman, who I now have a sneaking suspicion is scum.
Piano has linked himself to LockeZ, so I'm inclined to believe LockeZ is town.
demonlord is a confirmed protector. I see no reason a scum protector should exist, unless there are three protectors like there are three gunmen. Therefore, I believe demonlord is town.
That leaves YM, Cap, Muffle and Ozzy.
YM has claimed to be able to easily confirm himself. Though that could be a fakeclaim, I'm more inclined to believe him at this point. If Ozzy is town, YM could have easily quickhammered him, which he didn't. This makes me think YM and Ozzy are not scum together. I'm much more suspicious of Ozzy.
Muffle seems innocent enough. Sure, it could all be a giant ploy, but I buy it. I don't think she's scum. She would almost have to be if we have a scumteam of 3 though, unless I've been wrong above.
This leaves Ozzy and Cap as my most likely scum. Ozzy for all the reasons we've already laid out, and Cap because he's just left after crossing everyone else off.
I believe Piano is town. He's been extremely helpful all game, and came forward with being attacked night 1. Though that by itself is no indication of alignment, he was attacked by the third gunman, who I now have a sneaking suspicion is scum.
Piano has linked himself to LockeZ, so I'm inclined to believe LockeZ is town.
demonlord is a confirmed protector. I see no reason a scum protector should exist, unless there are three protectors like there are three gunmen. Therefore, I believe demonlord is town.
That leaves YM, Cap, Muffle and Ozzy.
YM has claimed to be able to easily confirm himself. Though that could be a fakeclaim, I'm more inclined to believe him at this point. If Ozzy is town, YM could have easily quickhammered him, which he didn't. This makes me think YM and Ozzy are not scum together. I'm much more suspicious of Ozzy.
Muffle seems innocent enough. Sure, it could all be a giant ploy, but I buy it. I don't think she's scum. She would almost have to be if we have a scumteam of 3 though, unless I've been wrong above.
This leaves Ozzy and Cap as my most likely scum. Ozzy for all the reasons we've already laid out, and Cap because he's just left after crossing everyone else off.
Jeroen_Sol
Nothing reveals Humanity so well as the games it plays. A game of betrayal, where the most suspicious person is brutally murdered? How savage.
3885
Wait, that makes nonsense.
YM and Ozzy could be scum together and that could be why YM wouldn't quickhammer Ozzy.
YM and Ozzy could be scum together and that could be why YM wouldn't quickhammer Ozzy.
Jeroen_Sol
Nothing reveals Humanity so well as the games it plays. A game of betrayal, where the most suspicious person is brutally murdered? How savage.
3885
In that case, YM/Ozzy/Cap makes more sense to me than Muffle/Ozzy/Cap.
But if it's a team of 2, YM/Ozzy seems less likely to me than Cap/Ozzy. I should read back when I get off work and see if I can find any evidence of collaboration though.
But if it's a team of 2, YM/Ozzy seems less likely to me than Cap/Ozzy. I should read back when I get off work and see if I can find any evidence of collaboration though.
I think it's very unlikely for Ozzy and Cap to be on the same team, as Cap's been very eager to get Ozzy lynched.
On the other hand, Muffle and Ozzy seem to be very hesitate to put any sort of real accusations towards each other.
Also I can't help but find it a bit odd that Muffle didn't vote on Day 2...
On the other hand, Muffle and Ozzy seem to be very hesitate to put any sort of real accusations towards each other.
Also I can't help but find it a bit odd that Muffle didn't vote on Day 2...
Jeroen_Sol
Nothing reveals Humanity so well as the games it plays. A game of betrayal, where the most suspicious person is brutally murdered? How savage.
3885
I definitely would like more people to post.
Jeroen_Sol
Nothing reveals Humanity so well as the games it plays. A game of betrayal, where the most suspicious person is brutally murdered? How savage.
3885
Would Ozzy buddy up to Muffle while on the chopping block if Muffle is his scumbuddy? I don't know about that.
author=Jeroen_Sol
Would Ozzy buddy up to Muffle while on the chopping block if Muffle is his scumbuddy? I don't know about that.
Ozzy hadn't said anything about Muffle for days, until I prompted him
I'm around now. I found the detrmimental role claim a bit sketchy, but if multiple people have reason to believe it, and if the roles can really be proven that easily, then I have no reason to go against that. My shot choice in this case would also be cap_h.
As for muffle, I haven't said anything because I'm in the mindset as everyone else. She seems genuinely lost, and because of that I find it unlikely that shes part of a scumchat.
As for muffle, I haven't said anything because I'm in the mindset as everyone else. She seems genuinely lost, and because of that I find it unlikely that shes part of a scumchat.
Jeroen_Sol
Nothing reveals Humanity so well as the games it plays. A game of betrayal, where the most suspicious person is brutally murdered? How savage.
3885
I'm away for a bit now. I'll be able to do some post digging in like 4 hours, but then we're getting very close to deadline and also it'll be late and I may be drunk. So suboptimal.
I was just reading through caps posts again. What really bugs me is that everyone else has at least tried to defend themselves when heat came their way. Cap has to notice that we are targeting him, and yet for some reason hes just ignoring it and most of his activity has been in the form of lists with not a whole lot of discussion.
I know our lynches aren't on him, but with the likelyhood that hes going to get shot, you'd think he'd at least give us some kind of defense, and maybe even consider giving us a claim so we have reason to consider, but that just hasn't happened.
I know our lynches aren't on him, but with the likelyhood that hes going to get shot, you'd think he'd at least give us some kind of defense, and maybe even consider giving us a claim so we have reason to consider, but that just hasn't happened.
author=demonlord5000
I was just reading through caps posts again. What really bugs me is that everyone else has at least tried to defend themselves when heat came their way. Cap has to notice that we are targeting him, and yet for some reason hes just ignoring it and most of his activity has been in the form of lists with not a whole lot of discussion.
I know our lynches aren't on him, but with the likelyhood that hes going to get shot, you'd think he'd at least give us some kind of defense, and maybe even consider giving us a claim so we have reason to consider, but that just hasn't happened.
I don't like defending myself. Claiming my role would hurt me, because it's a bad claim.
Sorry, I've been gone all day. I'll also be game making today so I probably won't be on top of this thread as everyone else.
@piano, I didn't vote because I didn't realize the time was as short as it was. And even if I had, it wouldn't have made a difference.
I've not really participated because there's not much to be said that hasn't been said. I think at the beginning of this day I had said what I wanted too.
About me not wanting to lynch Ozzy, well I think I'm just reading into his posts too much. It seems sincere to me, however, I'm also aware that it's not that hard to fake that. Urrg.
Cap, YM, and Ozzy are on the fence with me. I'm trying to figure out which one I want to lynch, but even if I vote who I really don't trust (Cap) it won't make a difference as everyone wants to vote Ozzy.
I wish Cave was here, they had a lot of good points...
@piano, I didn't vote because I didn't realize the time was as short as it was. And even if I had, it wouldn't have made a difference.
I've not really participated because there's not much to be said that hasn't been said. I think at the beginning of this day I had said what I wanted too.
About me not wanting to lynch Ozzy, well I think I'm just reading into his posts too much. It seems sincere to me, however, I'm also aware that it's not that hard to fake that. Urrg.
Cap, YM, and Ozzy are on the fence with me. I'm trying to figure out which one I want to lynch, but even if I vote who I really don't trust (Cap) it won't make a difference as everyone wants to vote Ozzy.
I wish Cave was here, they had a lot of good points...
I could definitely switch to Cap. I've never felt really sure about Ozzy, and now him going after someone who really stands out as scum, if they're both scum, it'd be throwing the game. But there needs to be a consensus on that but are near MYLO. We have to lynch somebody. We have to hit scum.
I would also be fine with the switch. I'm pretty sure we have enough people around to go that route, but I'd like to hear everyones thoughts first.
...Actually I think I prefer the ozzy lynch. I'm still juggling the idea around, but an ozzy lynch isn't going to outright kill us, and it would also prove some things.
Yeah, definitely prefer the ozzy lynch. Right now we have a few uncertainties of yellow/ozzy/cap.
The cap vote while tempting, is an uncertaintiy and doesn't clear anyone either way.
If we lynch ozzy and hes scum, it's still going to leave a few certainties but we will still be closer to solving the game.
If we lynch ozzy and hes town, I'm going to be almost certain that piano is town. Piano recently backed yellow on being able to prove their role, so if piano is town, then I'm going to feel better about yellow. This narrows down our options quite a bit, even if the scum amount isn't known.
There is also the fact that ozzy should have been killed the other day but it didn't happen.
The cap vote while tempting, is an uncertaintiy and doesn't clear anyone either way.
If we lynch ozzy and hes scum, it's still going to leave a few certainties but we will still be closer to solving the game.
If we lynch ozzy and hes town, I'm going to be almost certain that piano is town. Piano recently backed yellow on being able to prove their role, so if piano is town, then I'm going to feel better about yellow. This narrows down our options quite a bit, even if the scum amount isn't known.
There is also the fact that ozzy should have been killed the other day but it didn't happen.
Jeroen_Sol
Nothing reveals Humanity so well as the games it plays. A game of betrayal, where the most suspicious person is brutally murdered? How savage.
3885
If we lynch cap and he's town, I still want to shoot Ozzy. So it's just a matter of who I suspect more, which is Ozzy. But if we decide to lynch Cap instead that's fine with me as well. I just won't be around for EOD so we should decide something soon.



















