[MAFIA] PRISONER'S DILEMMA. GAME OVER

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pianotm
The TM is for Totally Magical.
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Shinan just randomly voted psy. I led the scum-hunts on both psy and Libby, but I'm suspicious. And I picked vanilla to make sure town wasn't hated, but I'm suspicious.

Go blow it out your ears, all of you.
pianotm
The TM is for Totally Magical.
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By the way, in case you brain trusts didn't notice, PA claimed he was going to shoot either me or Liberty. With Ozzy claiming that he shot Libby, PA's got a counterclaim on him!

#Lynch PlatinumAshes
PlatinumAshes
I am now certain that you are not scum and are just town trying to play scum as hard as possible.
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I'm not sure if you should have told us that you only get one shot, Ozzy. Now scum knows about it, and it's one less target to worry about for them. Well, you might get attacked anyway just because you are confirmed.

Anyway, good on you for scumhunting psy and for shooting Liberty. As far as I'm concerned this confirms you at town.

I'll express my gratitude by healing you tonight.
PlatinumAshes
I am now certain that you are not scum and are just town trying to play scum as hard as possible.
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#shoot pianotm
PlatinumAshes
I am now certain that you are not scum and are just town trying to play scum as hard as possible.
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author=pianotm
By the way, in case you brain trusts didn't notice, PA claimed he was going to shoot either me or Liberty. With Ozzy claiming that he shot Libby, PA's got a counterclaim on him!

#Lynch PlatinumAshes

Yes but I claimed 4 different roles yesterday, in case you were paying attention.
CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK
On sunny days, I go out walking
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author=PlatinumAshes
#shoot pianotm



do not fake day actions
pianotm
The TM is for Totally Magical.
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PlatinumAshes
author=pianotm
By the way, in case you brain trusts didn't notice, PA claimed he was going to shoot either me or Liberty. With Ozzy claiming that he shot Libby, PA's got a counterclaim on him!

#Lynch PlatinumAshes
Yes but I claimed 4 different roles yesterday, in case you were paying attention.


This does not improve the way you look.
PlatinumAshes
I am now certain that you are not scum and are just town trying to play scum as hard as possible.
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It was obviously not a genuine claim and pianotm knows it.

I honestly wouldn't be surprised if he's scum and just reaching for the first available target to shift blame on.

In any case, that last day made psy + lib + piano seem like a possible scum team, and I think that this ridiculous accusation makes that even more plausible.

#lynch pianotm
OzzyTheOne
Future Ruler of Gam Mak
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I don't know what PlatinumAshes is doing right now. If he were scum, he would not want to get all this attention. Also, if he is the doctor, it would make sense that he would protect himself and then breadcrumb all kinds of roles to try and get hit by scum tonight?

or maybe he's the scummiest scum that has ever scummed and is just trying to confuse town in order to save himself somehow? I'm gonna go with this for now.

#lynch PlatinumAshes

Still reading through thread before I respond to you Piano.
OzzyTheOne
Future Ruler of Gam Mak
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Ok, I will #cancel for now and read through thread before coming to a decision.
I think now that we've got Liberty out of the way, we can narrow down who are most likely to be town:

Psy_Wombats (7): Shinan, Pianotm, Ivoryjones, pianotm, Oddrabbit, Tale, demonlord, Fomar, Ozzy, Ozzy, Ivoryjones, PlatinumAshes, AlaskanEmily, Demonlord


1) I started the bandwagon on psy, and after everyone switched to shinan, I proposed to get him lynched instead again, with Ozzy rolling the first vote on him again after failing to hammer him (also he roleclaimed vig so def town). Shortly before hammer Ozzy also said,

author=OzzyTheOne
I explained my reasons behind trying to hammer Shinan. I've been undesicive this entire game so I wanted to just put my foot down and get something done. Besides, we are still in day 1 and I wanted day 1 to be over. Also, there's a big big flaw with your argument against me Psy. I could've hammered you back then. If I knew that Shinan was town like you claim, than why didn't I hammer you? Wouldn't that mean you're scum by that logic?


^above post was directed to psy himself. So this also 100% confirms him as town.

2) Now, before the 1st bandwagon stacked on psy, Emily has stated that she's very willing to vote on psy too. Ofc, all of us not expecting it to almost be hammered, she didn't vote as to not hammer him and let him say his piece.

The second after the bandwagon piled up on shinan and I explained psy's role being absolutely fishy, she did keep her word on voting psy as she also thought his role was weird.

Demon is more or less same with AE so I'm inclined to think he's also town. Although he did vote on shinan at one point, he was very much willing to switch back on psy for the final hammer.

3) Lib on both occasion didn't vote on psy. 2nd one, granted, she was away, but the first one she very much had the chance to do so. I know this doesn't matter as she's already dead but I just wanna point this one bit out.

Now let's see the votes on shinan:

Shinan (4): kittenfood, Liberty, pianotm, kittenfood, demonlord, Fomar, Ozzy


Kitten voted twice on him. I don't remember the first reason why she decided to lynch him but she was willing to jump on him the second time when Liberty tried to make a bandwagon on him.

Least townie peeps:

1) PA. He said something about targeting lib or whoever. That's curious in itself because Ozzy's the town vig!! No one died at night as well. There's 3 ways that this could go:

a)He's vanilla and want to lure scum to kill him.
b)He's scum, seeing as he's also the most suspicious among lib and piano, decide to play a HUGE gambit by killing her and trying to claim vig D2. I know it's a very risky move and kinda unlikely to happen but desperate times calls for desperate measure.
c) He's the BODYGUARD, protected himself at night, hence, no one got killed yesterday.

Either way, he's fishy as hell imo. I think the person got targeted yesterday needs to speak up right now and claim.

2) Piano. The thing that I've found odd about him was that he literally brought attention to psy firsthand and went apeshit when we did nothing..!! Next, after Lib started that shinan bandwagon, he went on with it. Weirdest part is he did an 180 and was willing to look past psy's scumminess because of "lack of wifi". It's a fucking paradox in and of itself and if he doesn't start speaking soon he'll be lynched.

3) Tale. He did vote on psy first but last minute he decided to not vote anyone. I also mentioned prior that I've found his posts to be quirky and weird af.

4) Kitten as mentioned above^

The rest of them read neutral to me and might need to get back later on them
pianotm
The TM is for Totally Magical.
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PlatinumAshes
It was obviously not a genuine claim and pianotm knows it.

I honestly wouldn't be surprised if he's scum and just reaching for the first available target to shift blame on.

In any case, that last day made psy + lib + piano seem like a possible scum team, and I think that this ridiculous accusation makes that even more plausible.

#lynch pianotm


Oh! Right! I jumped my whole scumteam's shit and got them both killed before day 2! What a master plan! It all makes sense now! Doing it to one would be enough to confirm me town, but doing it to two (virtual suicide, by the way) makes me scum. Brilliant, deduction, Merlin.

There's a solid chance final scum's one of the newbies if it's not PA. Until I've got a solid scumread on someone else, I'm leaving my vote on him on principle.
holy shiiit ninja'd so haaaard

also wtf my post's all fucked up^^^
PlatinumAshes
I am now certain that you are not scum and are just town trying to play scum as hard as possible.
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author=OzzyTheOne
This here is the post I was referring to.
https://rpgmaker.net/forums/topics/24686/?post=887589#post887589

We also can't ignore the possibility of PA voting on his scumpartner to cover himself. I'm going to go through the thread again and see his interactions with Piano, Psy and Liberty and see if I can come to a conlusion.

I personally prefer the theory where he tried to bait scum to NK him, but I can't be sure.


I don't know how to link to a specific post, but I was completely on board with lynching psy form the moment he claimed rolecop

https://rpgmaker.net/forums/topics/24686/?p=19#posts (read my post here)

So I didn't just vote for him at the last second to cover myself. At the end, I was just hesitating between voting for psy, liberty and piano.

True, I wasn't deadset on psy since I thought the other two were perhaps more suspcious. But I was actually right on Liberty as well, so is it strange that I would hesitate?

And, in fact, I think I was right on all three of them.
Also, guys, since the 2 scums were just goons, I have a bad feeling that the last one is godfather, hence he/she will show up town when investigated.
pianotm
The TM is for Totally Magical.
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I didn't stop arguing with Libby, I agreed with her because she was right. They were just pressure votes. It's not my fault a bunch of dopes decided to bandwagon him afterwards.
PlatinumAshes
I am now certain that you are not scum and are just town trying to play scum as hard as possible.
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author=ivoryjones
holy shiiit ninja'd so haaaard

also wtf my post's all fucked up^^^


you can just post it again with the boldface fixed, if you want

This much bold hurts to read a little
OzzyTheOne
Future Ruler of Gam Mak
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author=ivoryjones
Also, guys, since the 2 scums were just goons, I have a bad feeling that the last one is godfather, hence he/she will show up town when investigated.


Nope, they were not goons both of them, Psy was indeed the role-cop.
oh, i was eager to lynch shinan because the way the day dragged on was unbearable. i did not really have a good reason to, i voted him first because i thought he would be the most useless and i thought that voting psy and leaving was weird, and then again because people were getting testy. i kept the vote on him throughout the first almost lynch and then took it off and put it back when other people voted for him again. mostly i was sick of there not being the proposed random lynch and instead a bunch of meta gaming for four days straight while we just constantly backpedaled on and canceled votes.
I think now that we've got Liberty out of the way, we can narrow down who are most likely to be town:

Psy_Wombats (7): Shinan, Pianotm, Ivoryjones, pianotm, Oddrabbit, Tale, demonlord, Fomar, Ozzy, Ozzy, Ivoryjones, PlatinumAshes, AlaskanEmily, Demonlord


1) I started the bandwagon on psy, and after everyone switched to shinan, I proposed to get him lynched instead again, with Ozzy rolling the first vote on him again after failing to hammer him (also he roleclaimed vig so def town). Shortly before hammer Ozzy also said,


author=ozzytheone
I explained my reasons behind trying to hammer Shinan. I've been undesicive this entire game so I wanted to just put my foot down and get something done. Besides, we are still in day 1 and I wanted day 1 to be over. Also, there's a big big flaw with your argument against me Psy. I could've hammered you back then. If I knew that Shinan was town like you claim, than why didn't I hammer you? Wouldn't that mean you're scum by that logic?



^above post was directed to psy himself. So this also 100% confirms him as town.

2) Now, before the 1st bandwagon stacked on psy, Emily has stated that she's very willing to vote on psy too. Ofc, all of us not expecting it to almost be hammered, she didn't vote as to not hammer him and let him say his piece.

The second after the bandwagon piled up on shinan and I explained psy's role being absolutely fishy, she did keep her word on voting psy as she also thought his role was weird.

Demon is more or less same with AE so I'm inclined to think he's also town. Although he did vote on shinan at one point, he was very much willing to switch back on psy for the final hammer.

3) Lib on both occasion didn't vote on psy. 2nd one, granted, she was away, but the first one she very much had the chance to do so. I know this doesn't matter as she's already dead but I just wanna point this one bit out.

Now let's see the votes on shinan:

Shinan (4): kittenfood, Liberty, pianotm, kittenfood, demonlord, Fomar, Ozzy


Kitten voted twice on him. I don't remember the first reason why she decided to lynch him but she was willing to jump on him the second time when Liberty tried to make a bandwagon on him.

Least townie peeps:

1) PA. He said something about targeting lib or whoever. That's curious in itself because Ozzy's the town vig!! No one died at night as well. There's 3 ways that this could go:

a)He's vanilla and want to lure scum to kill him.
b)He's scum, seeing as he's also the most suspicious among lib and piano, decide to play a HUGE gambit by killing her and trying to claim vig D2. I know it's a very risky move and kinda unlikely to happen but desperate times calls for desperate measure.
c) He's the BODYGUARD, protected himself at night, hence, no one got killed yesterday.

Either way, he's fishy as hell imo. I think the person got targeted yesterday needs to speak up right now and claim.

2) Piano. The thing that I've found odd about him was that he literally brought attention to psy firsthand and went apeshit when we did nothing..!! Next, after Lib started that shinan bandwagon, he went on with it. Weirdest part is he did an 180 and was willing to look past psy's scumminess because of "lack of wifi". It's a fucking paradox in and of itself and if he doesn't start speaking soon he'll be lynched.

3) Tale. He did vote on psy first but last minute he decided to not vote anyone. I also mentioned prior that I've found his posts to be quirky and weird af.

4) Kitten as mentioned above^

The rest of them read neutral to me and might need to get back later on them