[MAFIA] PRISONER'S DILEMMA. GAME OVER

emily, I want to follow up with piano's accusation of you but I don't sure how to approach it. I'm okay with questions that I can answer but is it any different when facing opposing side?

odd, I apologize for not questioning you about the "second to last amount" in D2. I'm not sure what you meant until you role claimed in D3.

https://rpgmaker.net/forums/topics/24686/?post=887773#post887773

author=tale
emily, I want to follow up with piano's accusation of you but I don't sure how to approach it. I'm okay with questions that I can answer but is it any different when facing opposing side?

If you have questions, go ahead and ask.

author=ivoryjones
If we go by the assumption that scum couldn't communicate with each other during the day phase, there was no way for them to confirm if either me or kitten only had 1-shots. As psy died D1, his flavor upon death did not confirm nor deny his claim being 2-shots only. Hence scum being on fence on lynching one of us. Scum can't risk getting a no kill again, hence, going after the most logical option (as mentioned above).

I don't understand the significance of this. How would being able to communicate in the day phase confirm/deny you or kitten being 1 shot?

That wasn't much to catch up on.

#lynch PlatinumAshes

PlatinumAshes hasn't posted here in 39 hours basically since suspicion dropped off him, I feel like he's trying to stay under the scum-dar.

His last post:
https://rpgmaker.net/forums/topics/24686/?post=888002#post888002

Forgot to bold

#lynch PlatinumAshes

Shouldn't*

Sorry people, I've been traveling the last couple of days. I'll try to get some useful posts in today.

The wagon on me is mostly because of the wagon that I pushed on Piano yesterday, Now I DID say you could kill me afterwards, so I shouldn't complain. The others who aggressively pushed on piano are confirmed, and so the full blame for the thing has now fallen entirely on me.

On this Piano wagon, there were 3 unconfirmed people: Demonlord, Emily and Fomar. Fomar was also the one who clumsily hammered Piano before he could make his final posts. If you're going to be suspicious of me for pushing a bad wagon (fair enough), then I think you should view these three in the same light. Especially Fomar.

However, I think I take the opposite view. The final scum has to survive a long time, so they might be tempted to sit the whole thing out and "wash their hands" of it, so to speak. Kittenfood, tale and Odd did this. I am more suspicious of these three. I can also see the case against Emily, her posts are too defensive and they feel off to me. The Shinan thing could have been a clever mindgame by her, too.

Odd: he has claimed a role, but we have no evidence of his claim being real. This claim is really convinient for him. He has been basically playing like a survival: barely hunting or pushing anything.

Kittenfood also plays it very safe, but their posts read townish to me on a gut level. I can't say the same for Tale, who irks me. His posts just make no sense to me. He voted for himself yesterday. It feels like he's using his noobishness as a defense. The whole "lynch me please!" thing makes me very suspicious.

author=ivoryjones
I've just explained why. If scum couldn't talk during day phase, they had no way of believing why we should only havd 1-shots even though when psy claimed, he claimed to have 2. If you were scum wouldn't you get suspicious why psy had 2 but the others 1-shot? It could be a bluff from kitten so she could protect confirmed town as well. It doesn't confirm/deny us but it definitely gave scum some red flags.

Interesting. I initially thought that when Psy said he was 2-shot that Cave had been a little lazy with balancing given all the combinations, and so there would be a bunch of tweaking ammo. Given his death message though, I doubt he ever was 2-shot, and it was an ill-conceived attempt to make the role somehow seem less suspicious.

author=tale
About your thoughts on third scum being a new player- don't you think it's too soon to make such claim?

I'm not saying it must be true. Just that I think it more likely than not.

author=tale
How does it help with getting PA lynch going when there's a connection on you with piano and shinan votes.

My interaction with Libery/ Psy and vote cancelled are coincidence too.

I don't think any of the direct interactions between you and the confirmed scum came across as extremely scummy. The only connection I see is how Liberty was trying so hard to help new players. It could have been a coincidence though.

Before I said there three unconfirmed people on paino's train and forgot to add "other than myself". Obviously I was also on that train.