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[MAFIA] PRISONER'S DILEMMA. GAME OVER
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demonlord5000
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I'd rather avoid accusing people who look confirmed at this point. It would suck if all three of us flipped town, but I don't really see any reason why we shouldn't go after us first. Logically we are the most suspicious three strictly looking at roles. I also think it would be really weird to give two people a mason and have them be completely different roles.
demonlord5000
680
Change that last word to alignments. My train of thought was on roles so I just sort of typed it by default.
demonlord, this day cycle could be my last request when I get NK. does ozzy's role look balanced with scum role cop as a whole picture?
We're already in this state and it couldn't get worse at least town will prevail.
We're already in this state and it couldn't get worse at least town will prevail.
demonlord5000
680
I believe odd. Two shot survivor would be incredibly strong as a scum role. Also, I think psy was unlimited role cop because the flip would have given his exact role name. To that end I think last scum is probably vanilla because of how strong psy's role was.
Okay, it's just one post from Liberty bothers me the most.
https://rpgmaker.net/forums/topics/24686/?post=887487#post887487
Anyone she didn't mention she could be protecting someone. What happened at the end of psy's argument could be his rage on someone who didn't help him who needs the most.
https://rpgmaker.net/forums/topics/24686/?post=887487#post887487
Anyone she didn't mention she could be protecting someone. What happened at the end of psy's argument could be his rage on someone who didn't help him who needs the most.
demonlord5000
680
I think the biggest question we should be asking ourselves here: Do we think there are six or seven vanillas? If we think there are six vanilla towns, then scum is absolutely one of us three. If we think there are seven, then scum is hidden somewhere else.
demonlord5000
680
Looking back, liberty didn't really mention fomar at all except when helping him, or that one weird post that had everyone posts counts as well as opinions about them. I should check for any mentions in psy's posts too, see if I can find a connection.
So, it would be reasonable to check vanilla than to guess power role alignments which some are confirmed town?
I need clarification on what are masons though- odd brought up something of a double agent.
I need clarification on what are masons though- odd brought up something of a double agent.
demonlord5000
680
Masons are people who are given their own chat and are aligned to one another. That's why we think ivory and ozzy are confirmed. They are allied together in a chat, and there is only one scum member left.
I also went back and other than the whole simulation instance, there were a grand total of 2 mentions of fomar in psy's posts. One where he proposed a liberty/fomar team because of how liberty was helping him, and one where he thought his newbishness came off as performance.
I'm not sure if its anything that both scum have barely any instances of fomar in their posts, but it's as good as anything else were gonna find at this point.
I also went back and other than the whole simulation instance, there were a grand total of 2 mentions of fomar in psy's posts. One where he proposed a liberty/fomar team because of how liberty was helping him, and one where he thought his newbishness came off as performance.
I'm not sure if its anything that both scum have barely any instances of fomar in their posts, but it's as good as anything else were gonna find at this point.
demonlord5000
680
And yeah I think were more likely to hit scum by aiming for us vanilla claims than those with role claims at this point. I think it's more likely town should have 6 vanilla over 7.
Alright, demonlord thank you for input at least ease my mind a bit.
ozzy, I apologize if I made you look suspicious. the thought of last scum being a power role would burn a town a lot.
odd, that's fine it happens sometimes.
ozzy, I apologize if I made you look suspicious. the thought of last scum being a power role would burn a town a lot.
odd, that's fine it happens sometimes.
Demonlord, is there a confirmation of 2-shots from lynch results? psy claimed to be 2 shots, I think, but just a scum aligned rolecop.
demonlord5000
680
You are fine. It's always worth asking questions so we can analyze and figure out the best course of action.
At this point I've made my case. Just need to see what PA and fomar think. I just hope that scum is actually within us three given they hadn't given up, but I don't see anywhere else they could be. Doubting the claims would probably just put us in a worse situation too.
At the end of the day we need to keep lynching all 3 of us until we figure out who it is.
There is no actual confirmation, but the fact his role was role cop, and not two shot role cop makes me believe it was unlimited. I'm almost certain it'd be named different if it had limited shots, and I'm betting psy was just trying to confuse us when he said it was only two shots.
At this point I've made my case. Just need to see what PA and fomar think. I just hope that scum is actually within us three given they hadn't given up, but I don't see anywhere else they could be. Doubting the claims would probably just put us in a worse situation too.
At the end of the day we need to keep lynching all 3 of us until we figure out who it is.
There is no actual confirmation, but the fact his role was role cop, and not two shot role cop makes me believe it was unlimited. I'm almost certain it'd be named different if it had limited shots, and I'm betting psy was just trying to confuse us when he said it was only two shots.
author=tale
ozzy, why are you not sure about odd?
This is just me being paranoid. I don't have any substantial evidence against Odd and he does seem town to me specially with that role, that is, as Demonlord mentioned, definetely a scum role. Unless it was meant to counter the Jack of all trades???
Oh! Also, to adress your worries about me being town or not, at the very start of the Mason chat that Ivory and I share it says that we are confirmed town masons. Said so by Cave himself, Ivory can back this up. So yes, Ivory and I are both town.
Also yes, Demonlord makes a good point, we shouldn't put doubt into the power roles, that would indeed be dumb. It is true that Fomar being protected by Libby due to him being her scum partner has been floating around since the start, so we could go with that. For now I'll just
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I'm 50/50 today on lynchig Fomar or PA.
Also yes, Demonlord makes a good point, we shouldn't put doubt into the power roles, that would indeed be dumb. It is true that Fomar being protected by Libby due to him being her scum partner has been floating around since the start, so we could go with that. For now I'll just
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I'm 50/50 today on lynchig Fomar or PA.
author=OzzyTheOneauthor=taleThis is just me being paranoid. I don't have any substantial evidence against Odd and he does seem town to me specially with that role, that is, as Demonlord mentioned, definetely a scum role. Unless it was meant to counter the Jack of all trades???
ozzy, why are you not sure about odd?
Even if I was scum and my role was meant to counter Jack of All Trades, I don't think it really fits as a good counter. Instead, wouldn't something like a role that can negate another person's night action be much more useful? My role can only be used on myself, which means that to use it properly, I should've put myself out there when I had the chance. Basically, I feel like my role was meant more to focus nightkills and scum onto me to protect everyone else, which I obviously failed at doing. If scum has a counter to Jack of All Trades, it would've been like "Master of None" or something cool like that, and be able to target a person and negate their ability for the night. Not only would that counter Jack of All Trades, but it would also be able to make me vulnerable to a nightkill as well.
author=oddRABBITauthor=OzzyTheOneEven if I was scum and my role was meant to counter Jack of All Trades, I don't think it really fits as a good counter. Instead, wouldn't something like a role that can negate another person's night action be much more useful? My role can only be used on myself, which means that to use it properly, I should've put myself out there when I had the chance. Basically, I feel like my role was meant more to focus nightkills and scum onto me to protect everyone else, which I obviously failed at doing. If scum has a counter to Jack of All Trades, it would've been like "Master of None" or something cool like that, and be able to target a person and negate their ability for the night. Not only would that counter Jack of All Trades, but it would also be able to make me vulnerable to a nightkill as well.author=taleThis is just me being paranoid. I don't have any substantial evidence against Odd and he does seem town to me specially with that role, that is, as Demonlord mentioned, definetely a scum role. Unless it was meant to counter the Jack of all trades???
ozzy, why are you not sure about odd?
Ignore that entire thing I said Odd, it was just me being crazy and coming up with insane rambling based on paranoia because we can't seem to find Scum. I just know that if we don't hit scum today I will lose it.
