[MAFIA] SPY VS. MAFIA II DAY 3

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Cap_H
DIGITAL IDENTITY CRISIS
6625
Ok, I'm only getting more entwined. My final thoughts for now.
Not lynching: PSY, LockeZ, Odd, Fomar

Cave - I still find him towny, but he has been doing some weird and random town looking stuff, which seems to lack real purpose. Some of his posts are confusing. I still think that he's more likely town for his vote and for the way he pushes the game forward instead of misdirecting it when necessary. It wouldn't be difficult to get PA lynched yesterday.

Jero - I have many reasons to believe he's town, but his analytical activity today has been dwindling. Also, Demon never truly addressed his case.

Emily - There are some possible perspective slips and her interactions with Demon are the worse than the rest. still, she feels very natural in the thread. Another fact is that she's more of a sheep than a player creating new cases and off the wall reads.

Milk - A blank page, but without a reason. I think that the minimal activity can mean they're wolf but given their content it's fifty fifty. In every case it's a dead weight. I'm not opposed to lynching them, but it feels like avoiding responsibility.

All that said
#lynch Emily
CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK
On sunny days, I go out walking
1142



i can't make it any simpler to understand than this
I feel like I should be closer to Math.
CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK
On sunny days, I go out walking
1142
you're actually as close to math as you possibly can be. the angle is deceptive due to this being a 4-d object rendered in 2-d space.
pianotm
The TM is for Totally Magical.
32388
Nani dafuq? LMMFAO!!!

Day ends in 1 day, 7 hours, 50 minutes.

Vote Count
oddRABBIT (0): psy_wombats, Jeroen_Sol, AlaskanEmily
AlaskanEmily (3): psy_wombats, CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK, Cap_H
psy_wombats(1): LockeZ

Not voting currently: AlaskanEmily, Jeroen_Sol, TremendousMilk3, oddRABBIT, fomar0153

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to hammer.
TremendousMilk3 needs to participate.

Once again, thank you IvoryJones!

author=CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK
you're actually as close to math as you possibly can be. the angle is deceptive due to this being a 4-d object rendered in 2-d space.

That makes perfect sense.

I've read through and I guess Cap_H's reasoning makes sort of sense.
I don't feel like AE is that scummy but I wouldn't vote for her at this point anyway, too close to hammer and with any luck Milk will get mod-killed soon and we can elminate that possibility, he's about 4 hours away from not posting once in 24 hours.
Sorry I haven't been as active as you'd (or I'd) like to be. I've just had a lot going on. So, Fomar,
author=Fomar0153
author=CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK
you're actually as close to math as you possibly can be. the angle is deceptive due to this being a 4-d object rendered in 2-d space.
That makes perfect sense.

I've read through and I guess Cap_H's reasoning makes sort of sense.
I don't feel like AE is that scummy but I wouldn't vote for her at this point anyway, too close to hammer and with any luck Milk will get mod-killed soon and we can elminate that possibility, he's about 4 hours away from not posting once in 24 hours.

You really must want me modkilled. Why?
oddRABBIT
I feel bored. How odd.
1979
author=TremendousMilk3
Sorry I haven't been as active as you'd (or I'd) like to be. I've just had a lot going on. So, Fomar,
author=Fomar0153
author=CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK
you're actually as close to math as you possibly can be. the angle is deceptive due to this being a 4-d object rendered in 2-d space.
That makes perfect sense.

I've read through and I guess Cap_H's reasoning makes sort of sense.
I don't feel like AE is that scummy but I wouldn't vote for her at this point anyway, too close to hammer and with any luck Milk will get mod-killed soon and we can elminate that possibility, he's about 4 hours away from not posting once in 24 hours.

You really must want me modkilled. Why?


Pretty sure it's because you've barely posted. It isn't really that Fomar wants you modkilled, but that you probably will be if you aren't active enough.
author=TremendousMilk3
You really must want me modkilled. Why?

Because you are not playing. Currently we could be set to lose today if we don't correctly identify the final scum agent and you haven't posted enough for any of us to have any idea of your alignment. We would all feel incredibly cheated if you were the final scum agent being as we can't get a read on you.

Who do you think currently looks the most scummy? the rest of us are biased by how people played in previous mafia games.
Cap_H
DIGITAL IDENTITY CRISIS
6625
Usually, it's polite to avoid talks about modkills and subs and suggesting either. The other thing is, Milk, you should bloody contribute something. Give us an opinion or something. Number of your content filled posts is zero. You're rather skimmed. If you hope to fly under radar, I will personally lead a lynch on you!
CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK
On sunny days, I go out walking
1142
jero give me some god damned reads. I have a dayvig (extendo-boxing glove) and I'm not afraid to use it
Jeroen_Sol
Nothing reveals Humanity so well as the games it plays. A game of betrayal, where the most suspicious person is brutally murdered? How savage.
3885
Alright everyone, I've given it some thought, and at first I wasn't going to do this unless I came under heavy suspicion, but I think this will make the game more interesting, so it's time for an announcement!

author=Fomar0153
author=PlatinumAshes
Jeroen I'm leaning town on. He could have jumped on my wagon just now and it wouldn't have put him in much danger if he were scum.
Currently I'm strictly neutral.


Fomar got it exactly right here.

I am Ethan Hunt. I am also Johnny English. My apologies to both the agents and scum for lying my ass off to both of you.

Though my goal is simply to survive, I gave myself a few challenges to keep myself engaged. The first was to unmask all agents and scum. The second was to win the game with as many agents and scum dead as possible. I didn't care whether I won with town or scum and still don't.

Unmasking the agents wasn't very difficult. Ozzy was about to be lynched and revealed himself to us.
Being in both agent and scumchat, I knew all the code names were characters from spy movies. Because of this, I was the first to notice Odd's post where he mentioned that possibility. All it then took to get Odd to reveal himself was to say in both agent and scum chat that I suspected Odd of being on the other side.

Demonlord also revealed himself as he was about to be lynched.
I was, frustratingly, unable to unmask the final scum in scum chat. They were very quiet and only said the bare minimum to discuss the nightkill target.

So I have failed my first challenge.
My second challenge should be fine since there's only one agent and one scum left.


Now I present town with a challenge. Help me find the last scum today. If we don't succeed, I will concede to them that I've been bested and kill Odd with them tonight.


Now that I'm a bit more free to speak, here's food for thought:
I was the first to notice Odd's slip. (It was in fact, an intentional one to signal his fellow agents that he was an agent) I posted that slip in both agent and scum chat. Maybe Psy didn't find that Odd post upon rereading but knew about it because I told him?
OK, well this is unfortunate.

First, I'm curious why everyone is sure LockeZ is town. I ha thought everyone said his style was usually to be extremely aggressive? He's been anything but that this game, and his reasoning hasn't always been very good.

I did finally read all of LockeZ's and Cave's posts, and...

#lynch Psy

I read LockeZ's observations and Cave's reply. Cave brought up some good points, but there are still some things that seems suspicious to me.

author=psy_wombats
Okay nevermind I read the thread anyway - Ozzy what does your item/power/etc do? and what's it called? And what are the agent codenames?


Why would you want to know the agent codenames? What would that do for someone who is town? I think that LockeZ is right about this, and it was an attempt to find out if there is a gray agent.

Cap_H pointed out that Psy jumped on Odd for saying that it was too much of a coincidence that Odd would offhand say what the spy/agent names were themed on. Jeroen and I then agreed that was a pretty big coincidence.

But I mean...was it? Was it really that big of a stretch? It seems like Psy has a lot of interest in what the spy names are. That's something town should want to be kept hidden as much as possible.

It also seems extremely strange to me that Psy kept talking about how suspicious the use of the term "gray agent" was, when the three people to use it first were me, Demon, and then himself. He seemed to think that saying "Oh, I just used the same term Demon did when responding to him" cleared him. But that's bizarre, why wouldn't the same logic apply to Demon? I feel like he just flat out didn't remember he had replied this way to Demon, or even hadn't really internalized that Demon was scum, and then had to explain himself. That would also be consistent with a very late demon reveal in scumchat, or no reveal at all because Demon figured that the hammer was inevitable.

Also the battle tuba hasn't come back up. That doesn't mean Psy was definitely lying, but it does mean he can't really be confirmed town, either. If it was single-use, then it would have been a risky but plausible scum play. Even if it targeted scum the other scum could have claimed to use it, and no one could counterclaim. My point is just that using the saxophone doesn't really mean he must be town, since we haven't had someone else claim to have it next and confirm its effect.

He's also kind of gone low-profile when Cave and I started fighting, other than to defend himself against LockeZ's post. That doesn't feel great.
Holy guac that's a big thing to be ninja'ed by.

Jeroen: So Psy posted about Odd after you pointed it out? That's...certainly interesting, isn't it?
oddRABBIT
I feel bored. How odd.
1979
Eh, Psy, Milk, and AE all feel like scum to me. Let's just tie the three, and then leave it all up to Piano to do a coinflip or something.
CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK
On sunny days, I go out walking
1142
#cancel

neat
oddRABBIT
I feel bored. How odd.
1979
OH RIGHT

I know it doesn't matter, but what's the final scum's title? It shouldn't really matter, right?
CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK
On sunny days, I go out walking
1142
author=oddRABBIT
Eh, Psy, Milk, and AE all feel like scum to me. Let's just tie the three, and then leave it all up to Piano to do a coinflip or something.


I'm taking this as tacit confirmation that jeroen that you are corroborating this claim