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[MAFIA] SPY VS. MAFIA II DAY 3
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Jeroen_Sol
Nothing reveals Humanity so well as the games it plays. A game of betrayal, where the most suspicious person is brutally murdered? How savage.
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author=AlaskanEmily
So Psy posted about Odd after you pointed it out?
Yes, though not directly after. I pointed it out during D1 already.
author=Cap_H
Usually, it's polite to avoid talks about modkills and subs and suggesting either. The other thing is, Milk, you should bloody contribute something. Give us an opinion or something. Number of your content filled posts is zero. You're rather skimmed. If you hope to fly under radar, I will personally lead a lynch on you!
I just don't say much. 'Cause I don't really have much to say.
author=Jeroen_Sol
Demonlord also revealed himself as he was about to be lynched.
I was, frustratingly, unable to unmask the final scum in scum chat. They were very quiet and only said the bare minimum to discuss the nightkill target.
so they only posted during the nightphase or what? is there anyone we can just, entirely rule out based on timezones/speech patterns/hyphenated words
Now that I'm a bit more free to speak, here's food for thought:
I was the first to notice Odd's slip. (It was in fact, an intentional one to signal his fellow agents that he was an agent) I posted that slip in both agent and scum chat. Maybe Psy didn't find that Odd post upon rereading but knew about it because I told him?
*leans back in chair and awaits detailed timeline*
Jeroen_Sol
Nothing reveals Humanity so well as the games it plays. A game of betrayal, where the most suspicious person is brutally murdered? How savage.
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author=oddRABBIT
I know it doesn't matter, but what's the final scum's title? It shouldn't really matter, right?
It's Maxwell Smart. But yes, that doesn't really matter.
AlaskanEmily
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author=oddRABBIT
Eh, Psy, Milk, and AE all feel like scum to me. Let's just tie the three, and then leave it all up to Piano to do a coinflip or something.
I'm still not sold that LockeZ is definitely town either, but fine. Sadly I'm on board with this.
Also Cave should actually use his kill item too. The more non-Odd kills the better our chances.
But I also want to hear Jeroen tell us more first.
Jeroen_Sol
Nothing reveals Humanity so well as the games it plays. A game of betrayal, where the most suspicious person is brutally murdered? How savage.
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They made like two posts during day phase, but most posts were during night phase.
The post times are difficult to figure out. The largest bulk happened around 6 PM ET, but there were also posts at 12 AM ET and 4 AM ET. That last one could imply European time like me.
The post times are difficult to figure out. The largest bulk happened around 6 PM ET, but there were also posts at 12 AM ET and 4 AM ET. That last one could imply European time like me.
Jeroen_Sol
Nothing reveals Humanity so well as the games it plays. A game of betrayal, where the most suspicious person is brutally murdered? How savage.
3885
Ending the day in a tie doesn't work. Scum can just break the tie last minute and win the game this night.
Also leaving it up to chance would be a pretty unspectacular end to this game.
Also leaving it up to chance would be a pretty unspectacular end to this game.
1. Do not share any PMs from the moderator AND DO NOT SHARE CHAT LOGS (My big mistake from the first game). Your private messages must be kept secret. You may describe what was in them, but directly quoting any portion of them will result in mod-kill.
GIVE ME THE GOODS
Fomar0153
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author=Jeroen_Sol
Demonlord also revealed himself as he was about to be lynched.
I was, frustratingly, unable to unmask the final scum in scum chat. They were very quiet and only said the bare minimum to discuss the nightkill target.
Well we now know that unless someone can protect Odd that a mis-lynch means game-over.
So demonlord revealed himself after nearly all the votes? I guess that gives us very little.
Bare minimum, sounds like Milk.
Right so currently we have six potential targets for the final scum and with cave's item
CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK, LockeZ, psy_wombats, AlaskanEmily, TremendousMilk3 and Cap_H.
Jeroen_Sol
Nothing reveals Humanity so well as the games it plays. A game of betrayal, where the most suspicious person is brutally murdered? How savage.
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Maxwell at first did not agree that we should kill Ozzy, since he was afraid Ozzy was lying about the paper bag item and that one of his fellow agents actually had it and was going to use it on Ozzy. He also really wanted to kill an agent that wasn't Ozzy. Maxwell eventually convinced themself to kill Ozzy because they were afraid Ozzy would serve as the agents' mouthpiece if he wasn't killed.
His picks for agent were:
Probably not LockeZ
Maybe Cave
Probably me
This does not confirm Maxwell isn't LockeZ or Cave. In fact, it's entirely possible since I also talked about Jero in the third person in both agent and scum chat specifically to make it seem like it wasn't me.
Maxwell did not name any other players by name, except Ozzy.
His picks for agent were:
Probably not LockeZ
Maybe Cave
Probably me
This does not confirm Maxwell isn't LockeZ or Cave. In fact, it's entirely possible since I also talked about Jero in the third person in both agent and scum chat specifically to make it seem like it wasn't me.
Maxwell did not name any other players by name, except Ozzy.
Fomar0153
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author=Jeroen_Sol
They made like two posts during day phase, but most posts were during night phase.
The post times are difficult to figure out. The largest bulk happened around 6 PM ET, but there were also posts at 12 AM ET and 4 AM ET. That last one could imply European time like me.
Last time I made graphs of when people were active but I'm not sure people liked that level of meta-gaming. Should I do it this time?
i didn't like it because it exposed my modding mistake. also because it can easily lead to false conclusions. you can do it but I really doubt it's gonna influence my decision much
this seems like.... Not milk.
author=Jeroen_Sol
Maxwell at first did not agree that we should kill Ozzy, since he was afraid Ozzy was lying about the paper bag item and that one of his fellow agents actually had it and was going to use it on Ozzy. He also really wanted to kill an agent that wasn't Ozzy. Maxwell eventually convinced themself to kill Ozzy because they were afraid Ozzy would serve as the agents' mouthpiece if he wasn't killed.
this seems like.... Not milk.
psy_wombats
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@AE: as I've stated for the 3rd time now, the agent names would only be relevant in the case PA wasn't lying, or Ozzy gave something completely ridiculous like he has in previous fakeclaims. I actually don't see anything new in your post that lockez didn't state so maybe go back and read /my/ my reply to that rather than cave's. The only other point you bring up is that the codenames should be "protected by town at all costs" when this is worthless flavor information. With Jero claiming it should be doubly obvious
I basically find it really hard to believe that case is in good faith
Would also like to point out that if Jeroen betrayed Odd in scumchat they would have already known a double agent existed, and again no point to daykilling odd vs nking
The last scum being unreadable/silent makes me think Milk. I've still yet to go back through things to get review AE without gray stuff. I can't imagine cap playing quiet scum. LockeZ I could maybe but I just don't think it's LockeZ, I can follow his reasoning pretty well
@jero: when if ever did Demon reveal himself in scumchat?
I basically find it really hard to believe that case is in good faith
Would also like to point out that if Jeroen betrayed Odd in scumchat they would have already known a double agent existed, and again no point to daykilling odd vs nking
The last scum being unreadable/silent makes me think Milk. I've still yet to go back through things to get review AE without gray stuff. I can't imagine cap playing quiet scum. LockeZ I could maybe but I just don't think it's LockeZ, I can follow his reasoning pretty well
@jero: when if ever did Demon reveal himself in scumchat?
psy_wombats
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author=Jeroen_Solauthor=oddRABBITIt's Maxwell Smart. But yes, that doesn't really matter.
I know it doesn't matter, but what's the final scum's title? It shouldn't really matter, right?
Sorry, I've been playing by phone and got ninja'd back to here basically, reading now
Fomar0153
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author=CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK
i didn't like it because it exposed my modding mistake. also because it can easily lead to false conclusions. you can do it but I really doubt it's gonna influence my decision much
Ok, I was thinking whether or not I had the time to do it, last night of the school holidays. Back to school tomorrow :(
As we're at mislynch and lose is it worth a role call? Or is it more likely to do harm?
