[MAFIA] GAME OVER - FREQUENCY MAFIA
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author=CAVE_DOG_IS_BACKignoring the broadcast & pm stuff, i'd say it comes down to which narrative we believe. if we believe libby is being honest about her role as independent then fomar, psy & if i absolutely need to name a third cap_h as they've spent arguing time against points that can be easily verified by checking lib's alignment the fact that we know hex's role. otherwise liberty, gourd and one other that's not obvious yet.
please play my game
but i'm leaning very strongly towards the first group
But i still think there’s a higher chance of either Gourd or Fomar being scum than Cave but if he gets hammered I’m not gonna complain just saying
Ignoring the broadcast stuff but not ignoring things like the fact I know I was role blocked: Gourd (who might be lying about being the role blocker, but there is definitely one on his team), after that it depends on who I believe Libby or Piano and Hexatona.
Given that attempted hammer and that I really didn't think Libby was scum before this broadcast stuff. I would choose Hexatona and Frogge as bullets two and three.
Now back to remembering this broadcast nightmare.
I'm going to go back and check when Hexatona declared that Piano was town. Was it before or after Piano confirmed he got the broadcast?
Given that attempted hammer and that I really didn't think Libby was scum before this broadcast stuff. I would choose Hexatona and Frogge as bullets two and three.
Now back to remembering this broadcast nightmare.
I'm going to go back and check when Hexatona declared that Piano was town. Was it before or after Piano confirmed he got the broadcast?
frogge - out of curiosity, why did you reveal yourself in the broadcast instead of doing them anonymously?
author=CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK
let's play a game. a machine gun drops into your hands and allows you to take three people out of the game. Who do you kill.
the catch is you are not allowed to use anything related to the broadcast, or role conspiracy theories, in your reasoning, and that is because if you do, you will inevitably end up posting something really stupid. just the contents of peoples posts.
Fomar, Gourd, Psy
author=pianotm
It was a few posts after.
Yeah I found them:
You reveal you got it:
https://rpgmaker.net/forums/topics/24770/?post=892439#post892439
Hexatona says she investigated you shortly afterwards:
https://rpgmaker.net/forums/topics/24770/?post=892443#post892443
At the point Hex revealed Piano as town, Cave had made his broadcast post (but Frogge missed it) and Esby had alluded to it with queer.
I should just do what cave suggests and ignore this broadcast stuff, if it has helped anyone so far it is the mafia who have benefitted.
author=ESBY
frogge - out of curiosity, why did you reveal yourself in the broadcast instead of doing them anonymously?
We discussed it prior with Hex and decided there was no need no need for the secrecy, and could vouch to each others roles and save town the trouble of wasting lynches on us.
Anyway, im off to sleep for real this time
I'm a busy man, I often misread or skip some posts. I somehow missed Hex's claim and never bothered to reread and find it.
author=Frogge
We discussed it prior with Hex and decided there was no need no need for the secrecy, and could vouch to each others roles and save town the trouble of wasting lynches on us.
i guess, but hex had already vouched for you during the day so i don't think the nightime reveal was necessary (especially with hex verifying himself via piano).
knowing the radio source is town effectively caused all this by providing easy cover
For everyone doubting I got the broadcast: https://rpgmaker.net/forums/topics/24770/?post=892696#post892696
I've thought about stuff a bit more and I'm willing to believe Gourd is town because he opted to target fomar over hex when hex was left alive. If we were supposed to reverse-psychology kill Hex then RB'ing him would've played into that. So I'm willing to follow the "assume fomar is scum and work from there" strategy.
I don't see the point of grilling Frogge when the masonry is town-confirmed, unless you buy a scumteam of Frogge+Hex and there's a scumcast for some reason.
Playing "who got the broadcast" still also seems like a waste of time. It sounds like "having a role" prevents the broadcast from showing up (then why did gourd get it though?) so if there's a vanilla goon I'd imagine they'd get it and share with the team.
I've thought about stuff a bit more and I'm willing to believe Gourd is town because he opted to target fomar over hex when hex was left alive. If we were supposed to reverse-psychology kill Hex then RB'ing him would've played into that. So I'm willing to follow the "assume fomar is scum and work from there" strategy.
I don't see the point of grilling Frogge when the masonry is town-confirmed, unless you buy a scumteam of Frogge+Hex and there's a scumcast for some reason.
Playing "who got the broadcast" still also seems like a waste of time. It sounds like "having a role" prevents the broadcast from showing up (then why did gourd get it though?) so if there's a vanilla goon I'd imagine they'd get it and share with the team.
Actually, dumb theory: a redirector exists and redirected everything aimed at Hex to fire at Ozzy instead, so scum actually did want to kill Hex (so he was unblocked) and scum-Gourd went at the other PR instead.
I'm less enthusiastic about scumhunting anyone who's not Gourd or Fomar today because it's extremely doubtful they're both town, and we'll have more info after the flip and possibly info from Hex. cave's thought to leave fomar alive is not great.
I'm less enthusiastic about scumhunting anyone who's not Gourd or Fomar today because it's extremely doubtful they're both town, and we'll have more info after the flip and possibly info from Hex. cave's thought to leave fomar alive is not great.
i think it's worth talking about (something that people seem really averse to doing, for some reason.) you can hold someone in fomar's position hostage and force them to deliver night action results, which will either be useful if true or caught out if lies. given the fact that there's another scum with UNKNOWN abilities, i would take the chance if I had a particularly good read on a second scum, which I'm feeling out right now, OR, if we wanted to kill the wild card liberty. which I think is also worth doing. buys time, removes 1 non-town vote from the table, and I don't like independents mucking things up.
ok, fomar flips scum. who is the second scum. it's kind of a good thing to get on the table in case you, you know, die. similarly, ending the day (32 hours) early is very bad. i'm aggravated by how many people seem to not be considering that there are going to be several dayphases after the current one.
the purpose of my mini-game is to have trails of logic people can be held accountable to going forward, so some kind of reasoning as to your suspicions is... "good."
ok, fomar flips scum. who is the second scum. it's kind of a good thing to get on the table in case you, you know, die. similarly, ending the day (32 hours) early is very bad. i'm aggravated by how many people seem to not be considering that there are going to be several dayphases after the current one.
the purpose of my mini-game is to have trails of logic people can be held accountable to going forward, so some kind of reasoning as to your suspicions is... "good."
author=Fomar0153author=Cap_HWhen I said this, no one took any notice.
Gourd considered using it on you. If he were town, why would he be considering blocking a self-resolving claim at all?
It seems the only way for me to prove everything I've said is for me to die and have my role revealed. So be it.
#cancel
#lynch Fomar0153
author=Fomar0153
Just got messaged by Odd on discord to tell me I'm not dead. Will read and catch up.
what exactly changed here
fomar, who's scum.
I'm sticking with my lynch on fomar because the chances of there being three people with powers similar to my own is beyond ridiculous and seeing that Jeroen and Odd both made this, I'd expect a better spread. Same with the chances of there being two roles named for hacker.
Things I know for fact:
- Gourd has a role called Hacker
- I can wander-night-mason chat and role cop
- Fomar claimed White Hat Hacker and role cop
Two of these things are too similar to the others. Two of these things are almost exactly the same. Two of these things are too similar to the others, can you guess by the end of this game?
Yeah. My first bullet goes in Fomar, the second goes in Gourd, just in case, and the third... hm... Psy because he's been very dumb and needing things repeated over and over before he stops making the same 'mistakes' in his assumptions, then just ignores the information provided as though he never made those assumptions in the first place (see the whole fucking thing about Gourdy's role being called Hacker or not).
Things I know for fact:
- Gourd has a role called Hacker
- I can wander-night-mason chat and role cop
- Fomar claimed White Hat Hacker and role cop
Two of these things are too similar to the others. Two of these things are almost exactly the same. Two of these things are too similar to the others, can you guess by the end of this game?
Yeah. My first bullet goes in Fomar, the second goes in Gourd, just in case, and the third... hm... Psy because he's been very dumb and needing things repeated over and over before he stops making the same 'mistakes' in his assumptions, then just ignores the information provided as though he never made those assumptions in the first place (see the whole fucking thing about Gourdy's role being called Hacker or not).
Yeah, Liberty has proved her role power. So has Hex, who also claimed. So has Frogge. Gourd and Fomar have not. If anyone else has any powers, I haven't taken note.
#cancel
#lynch Fomar
#cancel
#lynch Fomar
I like how fomar posted my theory with a different viewpoint and people started considering it more.
Im split between fomar and gourd with fomar definitely the most suspicious. If I'm playing caves game, prob either cave or psy as a 3rd option.
Not fully back yet, but should I hammer fomar when I am? Only reason I didn't before is I didn't want to end the day too early.
Im split between fomar and gourd with fomar definitely the most suspicious. If I'm playing caves game, prob either cave or psy as a 3rd option.
Not fully back yet, but should I hammer fomar when I am? Only reason I didn't before is I didn't want to end the day too early.





















