Full Games List
Featured Games
New Games
Reviews
Media
Images
Blogs
Game Updates
Images Feedback Summary
Game Design Highlights
Tutorials
Articles
Scripts
Utilities / Plugins
Resources
Engines
Engine Bulletins
What is Makerscore?
Past Events
Achievements
Misaos
Forums
Post History
Chat
New to RMN?
Full Store List
RMN Music Pack (free)
A.I. GENERATION AND RMN
Posts
Roden
View playlists
CloseThis thread has been an excellent source of people's excuses as to why they NEED an AI and also simultaneously a perfect example of why they absolutely don't, ever time, and it's wonderful to watch tbh
Even if a game has voiceovers, I expect at least something resembling subtitles. Which is what the screencaps of Final Fantasy 10 that Corfaisus is showing does. That it uses in medias res as a storytelling device... is saying that already a spoiler? It's hard to tell, when the game in question is over 20 years old.
Darken
3952
idk how anyone made a game in the last 40 or so years without ai generated assets, impossible.....
Let's chill - people use voice overs in games, it's not a big deal. Even I've made a game that was only voiced.
It's where the voice is sourced that's the issue. Why not go on something like Fiver and hire some people to read the lines you want said, then run them through a filter? Or use your own voice, distort it to fuck and see what cool shiz you can come up with.
Heck, there's voice changer programs you can use - people use them all the time for streaming and vids and such. You don't NEED Ai voice, it's just the easiest option. You can absolutely make your own voice sound like a robot and it's not even hard to do.
It's where the voice is sourced that's the issue. Why not go on something like Fiver and hire some people to read the lines you want said, then run them through a filter? Or use your own voice, distort it to fuck and see what cool shiz you can come up with.
Heck, there's voice changer programs you can use - people use them all the time for streaming and vids and such. You don't NEED Ai voice, it's just the easiest option. You can absolutely make your own voice sound like a robot and it's not even hard to do.
To be fair the kind of people going to AI, based on what I've been seeing, seem to find "try and do it yourself" an incomprehensible, alien concept, let alone "try to collaborate with someone else".
I have literally done the weird robot voice thing myself before, takes about 5 seconds of messing with Audacity so I don't even know if you can claim the AI is easier
I have literally done the weird robot voice thing myself before, takes about 5 seconds of messing with Audacity so I don't even know if you can claim the AI is easier
Are we also banning text to speech, or is the ban specifically only applying to people whose voices have been used to train ai without permission? Cause ai voice is one thing, unlike ai art or writing, that I think can be sourced ethically.
Darken
3952
pretty sure there's a line between microsoft sam which is voice synthesis and not like brute force sampling/training common noises from a specific person's speech. that's even more contentious since many voice actors are putting clauses in their contracts that they can't have ai replace them or whatever.
id accept the excuse more if you really just gotta have biden deepfake saying biden blast in your game
id accept the excuse more if you really just gotta have biden deepfake saying biden blast in your game
I think I get what Frogge is saying (cause it would be trained on a single voice?) but then I struggle to think why and how you'd be able to get consent to train it on a voice and not just be able to use the real person at that point?
If it is accepted to use Microsoft text-to-speech narrator voices, then I could likely use that in my project instead of something like elevenLabs AI without really compromising the quality or intended effect.
author=Darken
pretty sure there's a line between microsoft sam which is voice synthesis and not like brute force sampling/training common noises from a specific person's speech. that's even more contentious since many voice actors are putting clauses in their contracts that they can't have ai replace them or whatever.
Yeah, this is what I meant - surely it should be allowed as long as you're using the voice of some random dude named Dave who willingly lended his voice for the AI and not Chris Pratt for your Mario fangame. As hilarious as it would be.
Speech synthesis isn't AI. It's a whole sound engine populated with phonemes. AI is used to MAKE modern speech syntheses by taking sounds from samples that are everywhere, the same way it takes artwork. I'm making this comment because I used to use the old speech synthesis tools that were present on Macintosh computers in the late 90s.
Although, I don't know how they got the phonemes into those old tools. I don't think different voices recorded them, because they sound too smooth. They might be synthesized from tones in the same way old synthesizers worked.
There's a really old T-shirt that was given to the speech synthesis engineers at Apple that reads "I helped the Mac wreck a nice beach". (You have to say it aloud to understand its second meaning.)
Although, I don't know how they got the phonemes into those old tools. I don't think different voices recorded them, because they sound too smooth. They might be synthesized from tones in the same way old synthesizers worked.
There's a really old T-shirt that was given to the speech synthesis engineers at Apple that reads "I helped the Mac wreck a nice beach". (You have to say it aloud to understand its second meaning.)
author=Roden
but then I struggle to think why and how you'd be able to get consent to train it on a voice and not just be able to use the real person at that point?
literally there's 50 different voicebanks of grimes all made with her consent
also VOCALOID has always been about consensually (and professionally!) sourcing voicebanks, not to mention the entirely synthesized voicebanks like the very first UTAU, or...
Oh, and the UTAU community is made of people who consensually source their own voices for others to create music with (each with their own ToS)
Granted, none of the VOCALOID/UTAU stuff had much to do with AI until the latest VOCALOID update that uses machine learning to make Vocaloid sound more human, but, yeah, it's... It's a thing, and it's not a bad thing by itself, really.
(Above: the VOCALOID6 introduction video. I believe most of the AI work here is in the last fourth of the video where you can see the program transforming the singer's voice to make it sound like one of the VOCALOID voice banks)
Strak
1560
So, I have a bit of an inside track on Coca Cola's marketing decisions within Canada. If you're Canadian and you've seen the new Y3000 coke flavor, there's a reason it tastes so bad.
It's flavor profile is AI generated.
I wish I was kidding.
That has nothing to do with the sites decision, but I thought I'd share.
It's flavor profile is AI generated.
I wish I was kidding.
That has nothing to do with the sites decision, but I thought I'd share.
Corfaisus
"It's frustrating because - as much as Corf is otherwise an irredeemable person - his 2k/3 mapping is on point." ~ psy_wombats
7874
I will challenge myself to drink it and like it! I'll import it all the way from Canada down to Texas. I'm gonna be a Coke hipster.
Corfaisus
I will challenge myself to drink it and like it! I'll import it all the way from Canada down to Texas. I'm gonna be a Coke hipster.
My man, you have Mexican Coke! Why would you torture yourself with AI Coke?
author=coca cola
Created to show us an optimistic vision of what’s to come, where humanity and technology are more connected than ever.
Lmao this reads like a supervillain speech. And yet I really wanna try this flavor.
Corfaisus
"It's frustrating because - as much as Corf is otherwise an irredeemable person - his 2k/3 mapping is on point." ~ psy_wombats
7874
Marketing is working.
