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@Fallen-Griever

I could be wrong (very much lacking sleep right now), but I think how it works is that the Misao votes for the current year don't end until halfway through the next year (or something like that). So even if a game gets released in December, there's still a couple of months to play it before the voting closes.
WIP
I'm not comfortable with any idea that can't be expressed in the form of men's jewelry
11363
It is automated based on the internal dates the system uses, as you predicted. I do need to revamp this area to take into account the Game Tags, since they were created later. Off the top of my head it currently works like:

A game is initially eligible to be voted for if the game profile was created during the current year. Certain categories only allow games that match this and do not have any downloads.

Games with main downloads within the year are eligible to be voted for in categories that require downloads. It is not dependent on the game profile's creation date in this case.

From there, if a game is completed it is eligible for the bigger awards such as Game of the Year.


I realize you posted this so you can bait me into position where I recognize this is abusable and that having a screened nomination step would alleviate this. So I will just cut ahead to that point and say that RMN only knows what RMN is told. RMN doesn't know if a game was released somewhere else last year. It also doesn't care because this was a deliberate decision to make the Misao stuff focused on this site.
We should add a Completion Date field.
post=148020
1) You're seven months late to the party

2) You have it backwards. Games made later in the year ALWAYS have an advantage over games made early in it because people are more likely to remember something they played in November than they did in, say, February. Allowing them to vote all year means they can cast votes for games that impress them as they play them rather than trying to remember what they played in December, giving up, and putting all their votes on the last thing they played. It's a better system.

...in theory. This is the first year we're trying it, so I dunno how well it works.

Also, hey, this is a good time to remind everyone to do some misao voting! Don't forget those games you played in the first half of the year, guys! Remember, you can always change your votes later!


NO! You can vote ALL YEAR. Meaning a necessary release date for that year is no longer in place.

So, let's see if your logic or my logic is correct in this simulation I'm about to run. A good game vs. a phenomenal game that gets released later on that year


guy likes game--->guy votes game of the year (January)
another guy likes the same game (February)
another guy likes the same game (March)
another guy likes the same game (April)
another guy likes the same game (May)
another guy likes the same game (June)
another guy likes the same game (July)
another guy likes the same game (August)
another guy likes the same game (September)
another guy likes the same game (October)
game 2 comes out
guy likes other game2 better (October) and changes his vote
another guy likes the game2 (October)
another guy likes game1 (November)
guy likes game 2 better (November) and changes his vote
another guy likes game1 (November)


game 1 gets 9 votes
game 2 gets 4 votes

but because more people had a chance to play the other game because it was submitted with less time to vote on it, game 2 lost, regardless of being better.

Your logic does apply to the people whom changed their votes, but it would only work if more than half of all people changed their votes to game 2. However setting up conditions for that is going to be hard. You'd have to make someone search for game 2 more often then game 1. Given less time, that would be harder.


If you only get to vote after some sorta completion date field, then every game gets fair consideration and an equal amount of time to vote for each.
WIP
I'm not comfortable with any idea that can't be expressed in the form of men's jewelry
11363
You have just run into the same issue that occurs with every annual award system. It is never going to be perfectly fair because you have to clamp at a yearly interval. I prefer people having the option of marking what their favorite games were throughout the year and seeing if their opinion has changed.

A completion date would only work for games that are completed and voting encompasses more than that. If we only want Misaos to affect completed games, then we can talk. =)
Incidentally, I define "Finished Games" as those marked Completed or Cancelled, since they are both done with.

WIP
I'm not comfortable with any idea that can't be expressed in the form of men's jewelry
11363
F-G, right now the majority of awards are only available to games marked as Completed. So things like Best Story are already restricted.
I would personally second that only completed games should be eligible... completed or cancelled. Basically, you get one bite at the apple.
Excluding a "most promising demo" award?.. These is one of those isn't there? (which F-G's probably gonna win if he doesn't finish Riot Grrrl before January :P)
Max McGee
with sorrow down past the fence
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post=110671
I am pro-Misao but anti-the name Misao
please, ruroni kenshin was a good anime
halibabica
RMN's Official Reviewmonger
16948
from Darken
ruroni kenshin
I read the manga. And it was good! Though why they named these after that character specifically is still a mystery for the ages.
They? It was FD's choice. (I'm sure you're surprised).
Can we also have the Missaos, for the releases that have.. "missed".
post=148311
from Darken
ruroni kenshin
I read the manga. And it was good! Though why they named these after that character specifically is still a mystery for the ages.
Why do you mean? He is the character that appears most in the manga right?
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