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I understand if you enjoyed it, but I'd be surprised if you said it wasn't super hard.
No, it was pretty hard.
Oh, shit. Didn't see this posted up! Thanks for the review, calunio! I appreciate that you took the time to play it.
One or two things, though...
As stated there's no story in this version (it was stated, right? In the introduction. I may have taken that out, though. If so, oops! ^.^;) hence no main story. The main character and his/her companion is my attempt at a silent hero, but the other characters that join you do talk and add character depth.
There are more classes and skills - they aren't in the demo though. The other character you can get (who you missed) is a Sun Knight... I'd love to know which companion you got.
I thought the items were pretty original in some aspects - the fruit and vegetables that do stuff in battle, though granted the scrolls are normal fare, as are the healing items, somewhat.
Later one there are more interesting places like an underwater city/volcano, underground snow town, dead forest... for instance. The beginning is rather normal, though. As for weird monsters, I dunno, they were kinda weird imo. They could probably use a bit more work though.
DBS, well... I like the DBS. ^.^ I'll try to add more to it, but it will remain DBS. I'm working on a skill creation idea, though.
There's a lot of edited graphics in the game, they're done in the RTP style, so they might not stick out much - which is great really! That means they aren't badly done. :P
I'll try to make the NPCs more engaging, but the mute PC will stay. The other companions will talk - once you get them.
They're the standard because they work. Though they each have good and bad points. The male and female versions are different from each other. For instance, the Witch has wind and debuff skills, whilst the warlock focuses on earth and affliction instead.
Already talked about the items, though the weapons will probably undergo some changes. Keep in mind they are at the start of the game so most things are basic.
Well, it's a quest-driven game, though it will open up a bit more after certain story events. But the demo doesn't include that, so right you are.
Traditional monsters, well, the first dungeon is basic, but the second isn't that basic... though it still needs a bit of work, yes.
There's battle events. The Con Job skill, for instance, makes the enemy drop money when used, but also confuses them for a turn or two, then makes them berserk. And yeah, DBS. If it ain't broke, why fix it?
The levelling up will probably need going over again, but there's enough difference between level 2 and 3. You do see more damage being done. In fact, monsters HP is set so that if you level up you can do enough damage to kill some in one hit instead of two or three. I'll look into it anyway.
Slow pace? Well... I'm not sure what you mean. I mean, there's no story in the demo. It's just exploration. There' no pace to go except your own.
1 - In the menu, under 'system' you can toggle walk and run. (I'm not a fan of the default speed in VX... evidenced by the choices in system - Run and UGH!)
2 - I first made the game without battles and didn't consider them for a while. I'm still not sure that I like them, but I figure the DBS is enough. I might look into something else, though I'm not sure what. Battles aren't exactly my forte.
3 - There's two things I want to put here. Most of my games are challenging during battles. This is because I try to encourage using items as part of the system. A lot of people, I've noticed, like to hoard items and don't use them when they need to. Using items makes the battles easier, as does using skills. Granted, you missed Shinua from the sounds of it, whose spells make battles much easier. That said, I'll look in to the balance again. le sigh~ ^.^;
4 - I'm not a fan of skill trees. They can be okay in certain games but... Well, I'll look into something. I'm considering a skill creation system. Sort of like in Wild ARMs where you could choose two events to mix in order to create spells. Things like Wind makes an 'all' effect, water adds a 'heal' effect, fire adds damage and earth adds affliction/buffs. So a wind/earth spell could make an earth all spell, a defence all spell or an afflict all spell. There's also skills you can find that can be taught to any character. Con Job and Hail for instance, though with Hail you have to find four pieces of a ripped scroll before you can use it.
5 - The intro will probably stay the same. I'm kinda fond of it and it's a bit of an ode to another game about a butterfly... As for afterwards, well I might add something like 'God' prompting you what next to do.
Anyway, thanks again for the review. It's given me a lot to think about and I hope you'll try the game again once I've done a bit of 'fixing'. ^.^
One or two things, though...
What you won't find:
- Interesting dialogs
- Character depth
- Fresh character classes and skills
- Fresh items
- Interesting locations
- Weird monsters
- Addictive battle system mechanics
- Custom character progression
- Custom graphics
- Fun pacing
As stated there's no story in this version (it was stated, right? In the introduction. I may have taken that out, though. If so, oops! ^.^;) hence no main story. The main character and his/her companion is my attempt at a silent hero, but the other characters that join you do talk and add character depth.
There are more classes and skills - they aren't in the demo though. The other character you can get (who you missed) is a Sun Knight... I'd love to know which companion you got.
I thought the items were pretty original in some aspects - the fruit and vegetables that do stuff in battle, though granted the scrolls are normal fare, as are the healing items, somewhat.
Later one there are more interesting places like an underwater city/volcano, underground snow town, dead forest... for instance. The beginning is rather normal, though. As for weird monsters, I dunno, they were kinda weird imo. They could probably use a bit more work though.
DBS, well... I like the DBS. ^.^ I'll try to add more to it, but it will remain DBS. I'm working on a skill creation idea, though.
There's a lot of edited graphics in the game, they're done in the RTP style, so they might not stick out much - which is great really! That means they aren't badly done. :P
What you will find here instead
- Long and empty NPC dialogs
- Mute PCs
- Standard healer/striker/wizard classes
- Standard healing potions, scrolls, swords, shields
- Very standard town-dungeon location structure
- Traditional monsters
- A battle system that plays exactly like an unmodified version of RM2K's DBS with no battle events.
- Leveling up that doesn't make much difference.
- RTP
- Very slow pace
I'll try to make the NPCs more engaging, but the mute PC will stay. The other companions will talk - once you get them.
They're the standard because they work. Though they each have good and bad points. The male and female versions are different from each other. For instance, the Witch has wind and debuff skills, whilst the warlock focuses on earth and affliction instead.
Already talked about the items, though the weapons will probably undergo some changes. Keep in mind they are at the start of the game so most things are basic.
Well, it's a quest-driven game, though it will open up a bit more after certain story events. But the demo doesn't include that, so right you are.
Traditional monsters, well, the first dungeon is basic, but the second isn't that basic... though it still needs a bit of work, yes.
There's battle events. The Con Job skill, for instance, makes the enemy drop money when used, but also confuses them for a turn or two, then makes them berserk. And yeah, DBS. If it ain't broke, why fix it?
The levelling up will probably need going over again, but there's enough difference between level 2 and 3. You do see more damage being done. In fact, monsters HP is set so that if you level up you can do enough damage to kill some in one hit instead of two or three. I'll look into it anyway.
Slow pace? Well... I'm not sure what you mean. I mean, there's no story in the demo. It's just exploration. There' no pace to go except your own.
1 - Faster walk speed. Yes, it will do miracles to this game.
2 - Redesign the battle system entirely. Considering the type of game Incarnation is, it NEEDS fun engaging battles. Battles cannot be secondary. I'm not sure how you could do this, there are many options. You could add some tactical factor, I don't know exactly, I'm no battle specialist. You can ask people like Craze and Anaryu for suggestions.
3 - Balance. Weaker monsters. Faster character growth. Remember one thing: the game will ALWAYS be easier for you (the person who made the game) than for the players.
4 - Customization on character progression. Something like... skill trees. This is very good incentive for keeping players interested in the game, motivates them to battle and gain more XP, etc.
5 - Better intro. I like the butterfly bit, but after that there's a lot of "nothing" before the game begins to launch. You can't expect that players will know what to do just because they're inside an "I've been there" RPG town.
1 - In the menu, under 'system' you can toggle walk and run. (I'm not a fan of the default speed in VX... evidenced by the choices in system - Run and UGH!)
2 - I first made the game without battles and didn't consider them for a while. I'm still not sure that I like them, but I figure the DBS is enough. I might look into something else, though I'm not sure what. Battles aren't exactly my forte.
3 - There's two things I want to put here. Most of my games are challenging during battles. This is because I try to encourage using items as part of the system. A lot of people, I've noticed, like to hoard items and don't use them when they need to. Using items makes the battles easier, as does using skills. Granted, you missed Shinua from the sounds of it, whose spells make battles much easier. That said, I'll look in to the balance again. le sigh~ ^.^;
4 - I'm not a fan of skill trees. They can be okay in certain games but... Well, I'll look into something. I'm considering a skill creation system. Sort of like in Wild ARMs where you could choose two events to mix in order to create spells. Things like Wind makes an 'all' effect, water adds a 'heal' effect, fire adds damage and earth adds affliction/buffs. So a wind/earth spell could make an earth all spell, a defence all spell or an afflict all spell. There's also skills you can find that can be taught to any character. Con Job and Hail for instance, though with Hail you have to find four pieces of a ripped scroll before you can use it.
5 - The intro will probably stay the same. I'm kinda fond of it and it's a bit of an ode to another game about a butterfly... As for afterwards, well I might add something like 'God' prompting you what next to do.
Anyway, thanks again for the review. It's given me a lot to think about and I hope you'll try the game again once I've done a bit of 'fixing'. ^.^
Well, some of the things I mentioned are more of a taste issue, and some of them are more serious/balance/gameplay issues. I still think most RPG elements in the game are excessively traditional, but it is a matter of taste, and like I said, it comes from someone who's played too many games and is a bit impatient with new RPGs, so I understand if you want to keep it the way it is.
As for the battles, they are just too hard, dying in the first battle is not normal, and you definitely need to go over that. It's ok if you want to stick to the DBS, but just rebalance the whole thing. Not only battles MUST be easier, but there has to be some more rewarding character progression. I'm surprised that you considered making the game battleless, since battles seem to be a huge focus of what I played.
I like the butterfly intro too, but I think there needs to be more directions after the player gets to the town, maybe a miniminiquest with the purpose of making the player familiar with the whole thing (go to that place, fetch one item, identify one scroll, kill one monster).
And duh for me not seeing the dash option.
I'm waiting for future versions then!
As for the battles, they are just too hard, dying in the first battle is not normal, and you definitely need to go over that. It's ok if you want to stick to the DBS, but just rebalance the whole thing. Not only battles MUST be easier, but there has to be some more rewarding character progression. I'm surprised that you considered making the game battleless, since battles seem to be a huge focus of what I played.
I like the butterfly intro too, but I think there needs to be more directions after the player gets to the town, maybe a miniminiquest with the purpose of making the player familiar with the whole thing (go to that place, fetch one item, identify one scroll, kill one monster).
And duh for me not seeing the dash option.
I'm waiting for future versions then!
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