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"It's a sobering thought, isn't it? To be able to look out your window and see the end of the world."
The world is on the verge of being consumed by the Fog, an ever-growing mist that corrupts and destroys all life within it. Unable to reach the source, humanity has no way to stop the Fog's growth. The destruction of the world is inevitable; humanity is at the end of its time.
In Asala, one of the few remaining settlements outside the Fog, two friends are on the verge of completing their training to become knights sworn to help weather the coming disaster: the cynical Aeyr Wilder and the kindhearted Mia Alacruz. However, catastrophic events soon destroy the very foundations of their lives, and they are forced to make the choice between their precious friendship and following the path they each believe is right. Their faith in their beliefs, and in each other, will be pushed to the limit as they decide what to save and what to sacrifice as the world collapses around them.
"There is no stopping the coming apocalypse. The only question remaining is: can humanity endure it?"
Prayer of the Faithless integrates elements of classic survival-horror games into its turn-based battle system. There are no readily accessible healing abilities, so your survival depends on managing a limited supply of restorative items you find or purchase. In addition, your equipped weapons and armor will drastically affect your performance by raising some stats, penalizing others, and changing your available abilities.
To reward a playstyle of controlled aggression rather than raw power and high levels, the battle system in Prayer of the Faithless turns a number of RPG conventions on their heads: You have three actions per turn, and you can spend them however you wish during battle. Plus, allies and enemies cannot guard, but must maintain their Stamina pools to block incoming damage. You must damage the enemy's Stamina to be able to hurt them, but be careful: overusing powerful abilities will leave allies wide open to attack!
Each ally's personality traits affect their combat prowess and abilities. As the story goes on and the stakes are raised, these traits will develop (and degrade!) along with the character's mental state. You will get to truly understand how each character thinks and feels through conversations and battle performance, and see how the state of the world affects their morale and beliefs.
The world is on the verge of being consumed by the Fog, an ever-growing mist that corrupts and destroys all life within it. Unable to reach the source, humanity has no way to stop the Fog's growth. The destruction of the world is inevitable; humanity is at the end of its time.
In Asala, one of the few remaining settlements outside the Fog, two friends are on the verge of completing their training to become knights sworn to help weather the coming disaster: the cynical Aeyr Wilder and the kindhearted Mia Alacruz. However, catastrophic events soon destroy the very foundations of their lives, and they are forced to make the choice between their precious friendship and following the path they each believe is right. Their faith in their beliefs, and in each other, will be pushed to the limit as they decide what to save and what to sacrifice as the world collapses around them.
"There is no stopping the coming apocalypse. The only question remaining is: can humanity endure it?"
Prayer of the Faithless integrates elements of classic survival-horror games into its turn-based battle system. There are no readily accessible healing abilities, so your survival depends on managing a limited supply of restorative items you find or purchase. In addition, your equipped weapons and armor will drastically affect your performance by raising some stats, penalizing others, and changing your available abilities.
To reward a playstyle of controlled aggression rather than raw power and high levels, the battle system in Prayer of the Faithless turns a number of RPG conventions on their heads: You have three actions per turn, and you can spend them however you wish during battle. Plus, allies and enemies cannot guard, but must maintain their Stamina pools to block incoming damage. You must damage the enemy's Stamina to be able to hurt them, but be careful: overusing powerful abilities will leave allies wide open to attack!
Each ally's personality traits affect their combat prowess and abilities. As the story goes on and the stakes are raised, these traits will develop (and degrade!) along with the character's mental state. You will get to truly understand how each character thinks and feels through conversations and battle performance, and see how the state of the world affects their morale and beliefs.
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CloseJust like Soul Sunder, starts off kinda slow. BUT... as soon as you fight the (spoiler redacted) SHIT GETS REAL!
I have the first episode of my recording session up now! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQczlUkFauc&ab_channel=Grub
Which....kinda solves what Malandy just said? XD
One thing i would note is that I feel like Unbroken should only apply the stat penalty when you're fighting humanoids even if the xp penalty stays.... :/
I have the first episode of my recording session up now! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQczlUkFauc&ab_channel=Grub
Which....kinda solves what Malandy just said? XD
One thing i would note is that I feel like Unbroken should only apply the stat penalty when you're fighting humanoids even if the xp penalty stays.... :/
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author=Red_Nova
When first meeting Mia in Asala, Aeyr expresses his distaste by saying, "What the hell is the Commandant thinking?"
I thought that line, at the very least, made it clear enough that the player should lay the blame for the Proving at Vanessa's feet.
Well, it could mean anything. Like "What is she thinking, given that we have a Knight shortage, keeping the battles to the death and reducing the Knight pool further" I need further context to refresh my memory and see what I interpreted... (I'm gonna find a Let's Play... ... There is none?)
But it seems that the Proving is too accepted to seem like fights to the death as part of becoming a Knight is anything new?
Red_Nova
Sir Redd of Novus: He who made Prayer of the Faithless that one time, and that was pretty dang rad! :D
9192
Thanks for the explanation, Desertopa. I've made some notes and will see to addressing them in game. The game could use more NPCs anyway.
When first meeting Mia in Asala, Aeyr expresses his distaste by saying, "What the hell is the Commandant thinking?"
I thought that line, at the very least, made it clear enough that the player should lay the blame for the Proving at Vanessa's feet.
author=Marrend
This revelation that Vanessa started the Proving is... interesting. I certainly don't remember anybody saying anything about when the Proving started, and probably assumed it's been going on since the order was founded.
When first meeting Mia in Asala, Aeyr expresses his distaste by saying, "What the hell is the Commandant thinking?"
I thought that line, at the very least, made it clear enough that the player should lay the blame for the Proving at Vanessa's feet.
This revelation that Vanessa started the Proving is... interesting. I certainly don't remember anybody saying anything about when the Proving started, and probably assumed it's been going on since the order was founded.
Desertopa
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author=Red_Nova
Plenty of knights had to go through the Proving before the game starts. People who have made it up to the rank of Paladin (such as Vance) attest to that. Whether it's right or wrong is an issue meant for players to have mixed feelings on. Just as Aeyr questions the logic behind it, so does the player. Apparently, going by the general feedback on the issue, that isn't enough. I'll flesh out the Proving's history and backstory a bit more.
What I meant was, at some point in the not-so-distant past, there had to be a point where the first class of knights had to fight to the death with their training partners, knowing that none of their seniors had to, and that would probably have been a really hard sell.
I find it believable that a fighting order might apply an entrance qualification that strict, especially one that's intended to command a high level of prestige; plenty of real-life military organizations have had comparably brutal initiation requirements. But I feel like it would be a major morale risk for new initiates to take orders to kill their former training partners in combat from commanding officers who didn't have to do that themselves.
I like the depiction of the tradeoff though, between the knights' ruthless efficiency and their ability to command trust and loyalty in the populace.
Red_Nova
Sir Redd of Novus: He who made Prayer of the Faithless that one time, and that was pretty dang rad! :D
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author=Desertopaauthor=Red_NovaYou know, I don't remember that bit from my playthrough. In that context, it does seem somewhat harder to believe that the trainees would swallow having to kill their fellows if their seniors in the knights never had to do that.
The Proving was a system created by Vanessa when she came into power as the Commandant, as Aeyr's talk with Mia indicates. Exactly when she took office, though, wasn't explained. I'll flesh that out a bit more in the game.
Plenty of knights had to go through the Proving before the game starts. People who have made it up to the rank of Paladin (such as Vance) attest to that. Whether it's right or wrong is an issue meant for players to have mixed feelings on. Just as Aeyr questions the logic behind it, so does the player. Apparently, going by the general feedback on the issue, that isn't enough. I'll flesh out the Proving's history and backstory a bit more.
Money wasn't the sole reason for Mia to join the knights. Aeyr was a strong motivator, and it could be assumed based on her kind personality that she wanted to help defend Asala and Honelleth as a trained fighter. I could probably bring that last part out more in the next update. Thanks for pointing it out!
As for the dying issue, Mia mistakenly thought she could stomach it. As long as the fight to the death wasn't with Aeyr, she felt, she could force herself through the Proving and live as a knight. After the Proving, she realized her error in judgment and decided that a life of a knight wasn't one she could sustain.
As I understood the timeline from Aeyr and Mia's talks, I didn't think they met until Mia became a trainee.
Ah, yep. Something got lost in translation between my notes and the in-game text. Not sure how I missed this until now, but it looks like there's a few wrinkles that still need ironing out. Thanks for catching that!
Desertopa
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author=Red_Nova
The Proving was a system created by Vanessa when she came into power as the Commandant, as Aeyr's talk with Mia indicates. Exactly when she took office, though, wasn't explained. I'll flesh that out a bit more in the game.
You know, I don't remember that bit from my playthrough. In that context, it does seem somewhat harder to believe that the trainees would swallow having to kill their fellows if their seniors in the knights never had to do that.
Money wasn't the sole reason for Mia to join the knights. Aeyr was a strong motivator, and it could be assumed based on her kind personality that she wanted to help defend Asala and Honelleth as a trained fighter. I could probably bring that last part out more in the next update. Thanks for pointing it out!
As for the dying issue, Mia mistakenly thought she could stomach it. As long as the fight to the death wasn't with Aeyr, she felt, she could force herself through the Proving and live as a knight. After the Proving, she realized her error in judgment and decided that a life of a knight wasn't one she could sustain.
As I understood the timeline from Aeyr and Mia's talks, I didn't think they met until Mia became a trainee.
Red_Nova
Sir Redd of Novus: He who made Prayer of the Faithless that one time, and that was pretty dang rad! :D
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author=Desertopa
I agree that this seems like a poor decision tactics-wise. But I thought it still seemed fairly believable working from the assumption that the institution predates the whole issue with the miasma. If the knights have worked that way for a long time, then to change the tradition in order to conserve manpower would essentially mean doing away with the institution of the knights, or at least with the prospect of replenishing their ranks, at a time when the people's morale may particularly depend on them. It would be a bad idea to create such a tradition in conditions like these, but when it already exists and people are invested in it, it doesn't seem as strange that they would keep it.
The Proving was a system created by Vanessa when she came into power as the Commandant, as Aeyr's talk with Mia indicates. Exactly when she took office, though, wasn't explained. I'll flesh that out a bit more in the game.
It does seem somewhat more surprising to me that Mia would have enlisted in the first place for the sake of money, knowing that becoming a knight would inevitably mean taking another person's life, and for no especially just cause. It's hard for me to see her ever sitting down and deciding that the money was worth someone else dying for.
Money wasn't the sole reason for Mia to join the knights. Aeyr was a strong motivator, and it could be assumed based on her kind personality that she wanted to help defend Asala and Honelleth as a trained fighter. I could probably bring that last part out more in the next update. Thanks for pointing it out!
As for the dying issue, Mia mistakenly thought she could stomach it. As long as the fight to the death wasn't with Aeyr, she felt, she could force herself through the Proving and live as a knight. After the Proving, she realized her error in judgment and decided that a life of a knight wasn't one she could sustain.
Desertopa
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author=argh
How are they maintaining that if the world's going to crap, though? Raising someone to adulthood is a huge resource investment, and it sounds like they don't have a lot of resources if parts of the continent are becoming uninhabitable. And if the knights die in battle a lot too... eventually the population will be worn down to nothing. Is a 10% stat boost really worth a 25% reduction in your able-bodied adults every year? It just seems like there are more economical ways of doing that -- modern militaries make soldiers kill dogs, which is also effective. (It also just doesn't make sense to me that people would hold back against inhuman monsters -- in real life, that hesitance is because we really don't like killing other humans in specific. But if there aren't many human enemies I suppose there's no other way to convey it...)
Going back a ways to participate in this discussion-
I agree that this seems like a poor decision tactics-wise. But I thought it still seemed fairly believable working from the assumption that the institution predates the whole issue with the miasma. If the knights have worked that way for a long time, then to change the tradition in order to conserve manpower would essentially mean doing away with the institution of the knights, or at least with the prospect of replenishing their ranks, at a time when the people's morale may particularly depend on them. It would be a bad idea to create such a tradition in conditions like these, but when it already exists and people are invested in it, it doesn't seem as strange that they would keep it.
It does seem somewhat more surprising to me that Mia would have enlisted in the first place for the sake of money, knowing that becoming a knight would inevitably mean taking another person's life, and for no especially just cause. It's hard for me to see her ever sitting down and deciding that the money was worth someone else dying for.
Red_Nova
Sir Redd of Novus: He who made Prayer of the Faithless that one time, and that was pretty dang rad! :D
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I'm so happy you liked it! Thanks for giving it a shot!
I appreciate the bug report. It's pretty alarming how it forces a reset, but you're right in that it's just a simple fix. I'll make sure to address that in the next update.
Thanks again!
I appreciate the bug report. It's pretty alarming how it forces a reset, but you're right in that it's just a simple fix. I'll make sure to address that in the next update.
Thanks again!
Desertopa
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I just finished playing through the prologue, and I'm really eager to see where the rest of the game goes from here.
I encountered a bug in my playthrough which didn't impede my progress, but occurred consistently when I re-tested the conditions that led to it, and could theoretically trap a player with an unwinnable save file. After Aeyr and Amalie return from their expedition and Amalie leaves the party, Aeyre can leave the city by himself. However, when he tries to re-enter, the screen doesn't load properly; the screen is black and static, and while it's possible to access the status menu, no other inputs outside it have any effect, so I was forced to reset whenever I reached this point. If the player for some reason saved their game in the forest at this point, it would be impossible to progress on that file.
Since there's no incentive in story terms to let the player go wandering off out of the city at this point, the problem could be resolved simply by adding a message that blocks Aeyr from leaving the city and walking back into the oncoming fog like a dumbass (which I mainly only tried in the first place just to see if the game would let me.)
I encountered a bug in my playthrough which didn't impede my progress, but occurred consistently when I re-tested the conditions that led to it, and could theoretically trap a player with an unwinnable save file. After Aeyr and Amalie return from their expedition and Amalie leaves the party, Aeyre can leave the city by himself. However, when he tries to re-enter, the screen doesn't load properly; the screen is black and static, and while it's possible to access the status menu, no other inputs outside it have any effect, so I was forced to reset whenever I reached this point. If the player for some reason saved their game in the forest at this point, it would be impossible to progress on that file.
Since there's no incentive in story terms to let the player go wandering off out of the city at this point, the problem could be resolved simply by adding a message that blocks Aeyr from leaving the city and walking back into the oncoming fog like a dumbass (which I mainly only tried in the first place just to see if the game would let me.)
Red_Nova
Sir Redd of Novus: He who made Prayer of the Faithless that one time, and that was pretty dang rad! :D
9192
I have always worried that the need to add a hints and tips page meant that I failed as a designer to give players adequate instructions on how to play the game in the game itself. As such, I've been trying to come up with more broad tips, such as encouraging save rotation and experiment with different move combinations, rather than specific points on the game itself. It's been difficult to come up with tips, seeing as I am in no position to judge how well I communicated the mechanics effectively.
As such, any suggestions on what you would want to see on the Hints tab would be very welcome!
Then again, it took me way too long to provide a simple tutorial about how to jump across gaps, so maybe I'm just worrying too much? Hm...
As such, any suggestions on what you would want to see on the Hints tab would be very welcome!
Then again, it took me way too long to provide a simple tutorial about how to jump across gaps, so maybe I'm just worrying too much? Hm...
No problem, I'm glad I could help. Situations like these are why I save obsessively in RPG Maker games, and I keep all those save files in their own dedicated folders nowadays. You never know.
I may be a crazy person, but at least I'm a useful crazy person.
Also, yes, I think a Help Tab for this game would be very useful to, well, help people who find themselves struggling. No matter how well-designed your game in itself is, there will always be situations where you didn't expect players to have problems. And there's no shame in breaking the immersion a little bit by offering some help from the "outside."
I may be a crazy person, but at least I'm a useful crazy person.
Also, yes, I think a Help Tab for this game would be very useful to, well, help people who find themselves struggling. No matter how well-designed your game in itself is, there will always be situations where you didn't expect players to have problems. And there's no shame in breaking the immersion a little bit by offering some help from the "outside."
Thanks so much guys! This will allow me to resume my playthrough in the game(although I probably won't have the same levels as I used to have in my own file, since I grinded a bit and got Aeyr to level 8, but no matter, I'm sure I'll get another opportunity later)
(plus, grinding is complicated in your games, Red, but I understand, since it's more a survival RPG than a regular RPG, forcing you to manage your resources(and not waste them with grinding))
I think a help tab would be very appreciated, Red, although RPG maker games are rarely played by people not very experienced in RPGs, it's pretty nice to add this to the game, to help the guys out. Remember, details are the sign of a dedicated developer!
Once again, thanks for all. I played Soul Sunder and got the best ending unintentionally on my first playthrough, it would have been sad to re-do the 2 hours I spent in this game, it would probably make me lose the interest I had in it for a while, until I managed the guts to play it again.
Thanks everyone!
(plus, grinding is complicated in your games, Red, but I understand, since it's more a survival RPG than a regular RPG, forcing you to manage your resources(and not waste them with grinding))
I think a help tab would be very appreciated, Red, although RPG maker games are rarely played by people not very experienced in RPGs, it's pretty nice to add this to the game, to help the guys out. Remember, details are the sign of a dedicated developer!
Once again, thanks for all. I played Soul Sunder and got the best ending unintentionally on my first playthrough, it would have been sad to re-do the 2 hours I spent in this game, it would probably make me lose the interest I had in it for a while, until I managed the guts to play it again.
Thanks everyone!
Red_Nova
Sir Redd of Novus: He who made Prayer of the Faithless that one time, and that was pretty dang rad! :D
9192
Only 1 HP and no First Aid Kits? Yikes. Unfortunately, there's not much that can be done at that point, so I'd definitely recommend using NS' save file (thanks for that, by the way!). And also follow the suggestion about rotating saves to ensure that doesn't happen again.
This makes me think about adding a Hints and Tips tab. Do you think that would be helpful to people?
If you have Mia's Metal Plated Sheath, you can use its Concentrate Drive in combination with Lightning Moment and Echo Slash to deal serious damage and potentially kill an enemy outright if their SP is low enough. Mia has no ability to cancel an enemy's Miasma Charge, so if you see one charge up, your best bet is to try and kill it with your best Drive combination and/or attack items.
Good luck!
This makes me think about adding a Hints and Tips tab. Do you think that would be helpful to people?
If you have Mia's Metal Plated Sheath, you can use its Concentrate Drive in combination with Lightning Moment and Echo Slash to deal serious damage and potentially kill an enemy outright if their SP is low enough. Mia has no ability to cancel an enemy's Miasma Charge, so if you see one charge up, your best bet is to try and kill it with your best Drive combination and/or attack items.
Good luck!
I'm not sure I understand what you're trying to say here, but... if you need a new savefile for that particular point in the game, here you go.
P.S.: This is why you always use multiple save slots.
P.S.: This is why you always use multiple save slots.
I'm here to submit my Fassive Mail in Prayer of the Faithless.
I'm currently stuck at when you're returning to the Honneleth refugees camp with Mia.
I used up all my First Aid Kits and (somehow) managed to get Mia to have 1 Hp point left. I can't escape the fight when Parker is kicked down the mountain.
I'm shrekt.
I'm currently stuck at when you're returning to the Honneleth refugees camp with Mia.
I used up all my First Aid Kits and (somehow) managed to get Mia to have 1 Hp point left. I can't escape the fight when Parker is kicked down the mountain.
I'm shrekt.
Red_Nova
Sir Redd of Novus: He who made Prayer of the Faithless that one time, and that was pretty dang rad! :D
9192
I don't think it was ever mentioned in-game. I read the skit related to it, but her original hair color was never brought up.
It's brown in my notes, but I don't think that's fair evidence.
It's brown in my notes, but I don't think that's fair evidence.
Red_Nova
Sir Redd of Novus: He who made Prayer of the Faithless that one time, and that was pretty dang rad! :D
9192
That's fine! Thanks so much for creating it!
