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author=Solitayre
you probably shouldn't be surprised when people completely misinterpret you.
I stated that the responses were not surprising to me at all. The responses that I received were exactly what I was expecting.
As for my "diatribe" of how your games are not groundbreaking... it's human nature to ask "what have YOU done" when said person is dishing out "pro" advice.
The responses in this thread did exactly the same to me... much like you did. That's just how it goes.
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author=TFT
all i'm saying is you have no creative abilities. does that make you mad?
I would be mad only if I believed you. As it stands I don't. You really CAN say anything about my abilities you know. I doesn't phase me one bit. My skin has had enough time to callous over.
This isn't about me. This thread was made due to what I witnessed was being tossed to other people who are new.
And you took this conversation down the wrong road...
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author=TFT
you either accept it or leave.
Ah yes, there it is...
Let's read back on all of your posts, compared to my original post. Which ones are really more aggressive. Take note of the time stamps. My original post was edited before any other post was made.
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author=LouisCyphre
It's not that bad after your edit, no.
Really, this thread is 74 posts too long.
EDIT yes, I cleaned it up. But the version that the first and second poster saw is the way it's been since then. Did you look at the time stamps?
That response that LockeZ posted was raw, and he was responding to the original one he saw... so did everyone else that came after that.
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Case in point, Adon237. Thank you for reinforcing my previous post.
Tell me again how much better this place is than GW? And how much better the members respond.
And you know what? I just re-read my original post... it wasn't really THAT bad. The retaliation was worse I dare say lol.
author=TFT
instinct is the 80 year old going to the tokyo hotel concert and saying "what happened to music???"
Tell me again how much better this place is than GW? And how much better the members respond.
And you know what? I just re-read my original post... it wasn't really THAT bad. The retaliation was worse I dare say lol.
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author=LouisCyphre
http://rpgmaker.net/users/Instinct/games/Well, they're not here. Buried in some forum thread, I presume? If so, I guess it's our fault for not seeing that post out of the literal 310,000+ comments on this website.
Oh how dare we~?
Is it your fault? No, absolutely not. But you miss the point... that seems to be a common denominator here. Please take another stab at it.
You know I came here full of inspiration to start making games again. Thought it would be a nice place to start. What I witnessed in these forums... robbed me of all of that inspiration. And the fact that it is MILD compared to GW means nothing.
You are all right, what's happening here is exactly like GW. Someone (me) sees the pattern, makes a post about it, everyone comes in to say it is NOT happening.
As for the "crux" of my post... Cave Dog seems to be the only one with a keen enough sense that this is NOT a "you don't have any good games around here" post. That was a nail, but it wasn't the structure.
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An insight into the original post:
So HERE'S what REALLY caused me to post this topic... if you must know.
I like screenshots. I frequent your screenshots topic. I went there and I saw a comment from someone saying something about a flaw in someone's map. I just thought to myself, "Are you serious? You're really nitpicking over that little detail? The map looks great, and I bet you won't even notice that when you actually play the game if it is presented well."
And then there was one post about... how the smile on someone's custom picture was... "off". It was a nicely done piece of work, mind you. Blended well, showed a lot of effort, and is the kind of project that goes somewhere. And the "smile is off"? Are you serious? How about "That looks great, keep up the good work"? Because it does look great... I can't believe you actually paid that much attention to the "smile" on that picture.
You're telling them to correct that amazing piece of work... and at the same time giving me a speech about how "this is just a hobby".
And so that's where I came out with, "You can't even make a game as good as that..." and hence the post.
Yes, nostalgia shot through me alright... but it wasn't nostalgia "from the good old days". But rather from all the little "Hey, guess how good I am at pointing out all the little things wrong with your project" crowd. You KNOW what crowd I'm talking about.
And they were usually the ones who never really contributed much to the community. Let's face it, good game makers are good game makers, and bad ones are bad. The community would have thrived regardless without nitpicking (constructive criticism) like that... because the bad ones will inevitably play (and learn) from the good ones.
Did I go about this all wrong? Perhaps. Did I take stabs? Yup, I sure did.
You must be new to the community despite that 8000+ number on below your avatar. If you aren't new, you must have been secluded... because I already did. The fact that you don't know about them (whether you liked them or not) means you really don't have enough information to be talking.
As for why I am not doing anything in the new maker. I am. Posted screenshots. Here on your website.
The fact that you aren't aware of this tells me that you really pulled crap out of thin air hoping you would be right. Please be quiet.
So HERE'S what REALLY caused me to post this topic... if you must know.
I like screenshots. I frequent your screenshots topic. I went there and I saw a comment from someone saying something about a flaw in someone's map. I just thought to myself, "Are you serious? You're really nitpicking over that little detail? The map looks great, and I bet you won't even notice that when you actually play the game if it is presented well."
And then there was one post about... how the smile on someone's custom picture was... "off". It was a nicely done piece of work, mind you. Blended well, showed a lot of effort, and is the kind of project that goes somewhere. And the "smile is off"? Are you serious? How about "That looks great, keep up the good work"? Because it does look great... I can't believe you actually paid that much attention to the "smile" on that picture.
You're telling them to correct that amazing piece of work... and at the same time giving me a speech about how "this is just a hobby".
And so that's where I came out with, "You can't even make a game as good as that..." and hence the post.
Yes, nostalgia shot through me alright... but it wasn't nostalgia "from the good old days". But rather from all the little "Hey, guess how good I am at pointing out all the little things wrong with your project" crowd. You KNOW what crowd I'm talking about.
And they were usually the ones who never really contributed much to the community. Let's face it, good game makers are good game makers, and bad ones are bad. The community would have thrived regardless without nitpicking (constructive criticism) like that... because the bad ones will inevitably play (and learn) from the good ones.
Did I go about this all wrong? Perhaps. Did I take stabs? Yup, I sure did.
author=Solitayre
You want there to be more visually impressive games in this community? Awesome! Go make one. I completely support you in this endeavor. Write blogs about it! Post images! Show us what you're doing and why it's cool.
Do something, anything, other than bitch on the forums. We have too much of that already.
You must be new to the community despite that 8000+ number on below your avatar. If you aren't new, you must have been secluded... because I already did. The fact that you don't know about them (whether you liked them or not) means you really don't have enough information to be talking.
As for why I am not doing anything in the new maker. I am. Posted screenshots. Here on your website.
The fact that you aren't aware of this tells me that you really pulled crap out of thin air hoping you would be right. Please be quiet.
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author=LockeZ
I'm not necessarily a good critic, but it takes practice to figure out what kind of advice works and what kind doesn't, and I'm trying to get better.
Exactly... you have room to learn, we all do. So the next time you speak to new community members don't act like you don't. Mission accomplished.
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Again you miss the point, and you fail to understand what is being said so let me state again: It isnt about which games are better, but rather that the people dishing out all the "how to" around here don't really know what they're talking about. And really, plenty of games have done sequences like these? Lol please name one. Because i looked at exit fate... and it did not do this